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    Michael Joseph: Are you suggesting that to assert the validity and reality of the supernatural to reflect vestment in 'earthly meanings'? Or are you suggesting the kingdom to be wholly supernatural/spiritual but capable of producing good side effects in the physical?

    For one, the overemphasis on sex in many so-called "Christian congregations" gives me insight they are totally missing or ignoring the spiritual meanings of fidelity to the truth. The so-called pastors are being used as tools to mislead--a higher level occultist referred to one as as one of his wolves--imagine a spiritual abortion clinic masquerading as a place for meeting of saints. Was it the Roman Catholic system that asserted a physical rendering of the kingdom by promoting the taking of Jerusalem between 1066 and 1099 which was about 1,000 years after the destruction of the temple? Wasn't that the beginning of a large series of conflicts between Catholics and Muslims? The Crusades?
    The heavenly meanings have always been "couched" or "hidden" in the earthy physical, it is just that men, including myself, strain to see what is right in front of them. There is a deep structure and meaning between the terms Christ Jesus and Jesus Christ. Most just read right pass this difference reading but not seeing.

    I think that many pastors are truly seeking to be helpful to the kingdom of God, thinking themselves good and righteous but in fact the blind only lead the blind into a ditch. Those who can only see the earthly are stuck in a duality construct. For their Heavens and their Earth are separated. It is only by the grace of God that the two become one. But the seeker is promised to find but only if he/she seeks with all that he/she has.

    I am suggesting that I, in no way shape or form, can describe or know entirely the scope and presence of God. To do so, in my feeble mind, is blasphemy. For the moment I say God is "anything" [even love], I have limited God. Thusly I say God is BEING and my mind cannot know exactly what God is. My goal is mergence with God. To become One. Thusly Christ becomes me.

    Now, I know the last sentence is bothersome to many but consider again what St. Paul wrote. St. Paul, a man, represents a deeper meaning for how can St. Paul travail in birth pains again? And what man ever birthed anything? Thusly there is a deeper structure, a deeper meaning, hidden below the facade of the physical. For St. Paul wrote "until Christ be formed in you."

    Truth is indeed the key. For Jesus said "ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." Therefore the "true baptism" is to be immersed in truth. That is to say to fully immerse one's head [mind] in water [truth]. But men see only the physical deed of physical immersion into h2o. This physical deed is dead and there is no life in it. For there is no light only some ritual act performed by some spiritually dead church.

    Who was the greatest law breaker according to the Jews? Was it not Jesus? Why? In part, I believe, He was messing with their "business plan" but also He upset and exposed their dead works [traditions] and [misunderstandings] to be not pleasing to God. Thusly the fabric of their entire society was false. When one comes to these terrible realizations, then an earth quake happens as their entire world is rocked by the realization that all they knew and practiced was false. But if one looks carefully there remains TWO earthquakes!

    For the mind indeed will cling to its understandings even if false and therefore the mind/heart connection will forge the false reality in man. The scriptures declare that we may know and understand the Godhead by looking at the things created. Thusly we explore all the aspects of man. And therefore, sex which is the means by which man creates is a physical representation of a deeper understanding. Some keep Sabbath in a church house. Others keep it in a field. If those in assembly are blind, then who is better off?

    In my opinion most religions carry only the symbols of the LARGE fishes caught by Peter [the church]. But the true meaning of said Large fishes remain only, at this time, with God's Elect. For a fish is wisdom and the Large Fish [153] have the deeper understandings of the Kingdom of God "couched" or "hidden" in the physical holographic existence.

    Consider Sampson [a state of mind]. I have received many a haircut but lost no strength in the transaction; however, if I see Sampson as a state of strength in the Spirit, then to receive a "haircut" is to be cut off from Unity with God into duality. My Heavens and my Earth are separated. Thus I am weak. When I am strong, I might kill 1000 Philistines [false thoughts] with a jawbone. But in my weakness I am made to toil under the yoke of carnality. For the Philistines put out my Spiritual Eyes and I can no longer see to see.

    Notice it was the "woman" who was instrumental in allowing the Philistines to "cut his hair". She is desire - she is the "woman in red" the scarlet lady who deceives mankind [man and woman] so that the true purpose of man [the mind] is subverted and thusly the "hair is cut". Since man is the microcosm of the Universe, then the Woman must represent something within everyone in mankind. Just as the man must represent something in everyone in mankind. For what use is the woman? And for what use is the man? Do not these two come together in union to bring forth a child? How do they perform this deed? And what is the Heavenly meaning of this deed?

    Who births the child, the man or the woman? So then, is it not vital to comprehend the female aspect in mankind so that a new reality might be birthed? For many beg like a hooker all night long and receive nothing. Why does the modern church turn its back upon knowledge, instruction, understanding and wisdom? Is God double minded such that we are commanded to get Wisdom? What then is the purpose of the Holy Spirit? Is it not to instruct and teach? Instruct what? And teach what?

    Rom_10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

    Is it not good to have both zeal and knowledge? I think so! According to the great book of Salvation [Hosea] :

    Hos 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

    According to Christ Jesus God conceals a matter in the physical world. But in Jesus Christ the concealed is manifest. Regarding the Crusades, I could not say - only that it seems strange to me that men would kill other men in support of God. This too to me is another manifestation of the ignorances of man - externalizing the Spirit - and thus making the Word of God come to naught. It is no wonder that Jesus called religion a sickness and those steeped in it - dead?

    But notice at once how the consciousness of man plays out on the global stage. Man in carnal consciousness - kills other men - in the name of their war God - pick any flavor. In deed the blind lead the blind. I wonder if one in one-million comprehend the death to the kings and the people represent "thoughts". The subjection of a people represent Abraham [higher self] ordering his Mind [house]. For the child of promise did not come from Abram but only Abraham. Those who only see matter will say that is the name of the same man but do not recognize the "state of Mind" symbolized in this being. This man is in fact - every man.

    Seeing the Light in Abraham, will one still cling to earthly interpretations and existence? Maybe, but which is greater, the earthly or the heavenly? Do we not seek the title "Friend of God"? Do we not seek "a new name"? Why does man think he must die - physically- in order for a mental/emotional process [transformation] to occur? Martha, Mary's sister thought this to be true.

    One day the preacher seeking to serve God informed an island man that if He did not submit and place his faith in Christ he would not be saved. The preacher man continued to propound that hell awaited those who refuse. The island man asked if hell awaited him in his ignorance prior to this new knowledge. The preacher man said no. The island man replied "then, why did you tell me?"

    That is the question begging to be answered!
    Last edited by Michael Joseph; 11-03-15 at 04:13 AM.
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