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[David Merrill]

Hi Michael Joseph;


I am still not getting it. You seem to be saying there are two different interpretations of the verse. Mine is that Paul was being warned not to go to Jerusalem but felt compelled by guilt to do so anyway:

Act_22:20 And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him.

[Michael Joseph]

Hi Michael Joseph;


I am still not getting it. You seem to be saying there are two different interpretations of the verse. Mine is that Paul was being warned not to go to Jerusalem but felt compelled by guilt to do so anyway:

Yes, that is it. I am saying that the scribes mis-interpreted Acts 21:4 in English. But I leave it to the reader to decide.

Obadiah 1:21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.

Judges 3:9 And when the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, the LORD raised up a deliverer to the children of Israel, who delivered them, even Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb's younger brother.

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Matthew 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.


Who then is this rich man? Might he consider himself [mind] wise in his own regard? What should he buy or sell? And whereof should he buy? And this substance to sell or purchase is it corporeal? Should he not rid himself of his own vain understandings taught to him by "blind guides" - and seek the teachings of his Mother - Proverbs 31 - the Holy Spirit?


Rev_3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.


Why is everyone looking for a physical manifestation of buying and selling? When first the buying and selling happens in the Mind. Thus the consciousness of man is alive. Adam [the Mind] ate of the fruit given to him from Eve [Emotion] from the serpent [Central Nervous System] - and thought himself to be naked - the lesson of the Fig Tree.


How can one buy of God when one deems himself [mind] wise in his own estimation? In my opinion, the beginning of Wisdom is realizing that one knows very little of anything.

Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that revered God, and eschewed evil.


Was not Job made pure thru tribulation?

Daniel 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Gal 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
Gal 4:2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:

Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Whereof is guilt to be found in New Jerusalem? Nevertheless once the mind is enlightened can it turn back? Apparently the answer is yes!

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Comment: Notice "tasted the good word of God" - not just historical context.


For in ignorance [the unenlightened mind] or if you prefer, the Earth, receives rain [in-sight] from God and brings forth fruit and herbs [deeds, etc] but consider what if the enlightened mind which has tasted of the Kingdom of God - brings forth thorns? Is there any recourse unto such a being which "quenches the Holy Spirit?"

Are not these as "raging waves", "clouds absent rain", "worthless"?

Heb 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.

I reckon that Paul's life is a symbol. Fractals.

I reckon that Paul's companions were symbols of the Elect children which come forth - the Zadok. These children shall be a benefit-profit to the current church - Onesimus [beneficial] sent by Paul across time to Philemon [modern church]. Begotten of Paul in understanding and knowledge [his bonds].

Speaking of eternity: and the Order of Melchizedok:

Ezekiel 44:23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.

Ezekiel 44:24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.

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Let us strive to comprehend the Light behind the symbols. For in reality:

Psalms 139:11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.

Psalms 139:12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

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Does not the son or daughter have an interest in the father's estate? Consider now the prodigal son and the elder son with newness. Did the Higher Mind ever leave the Father? What now of the Lower Mind? Is it now time to TURN or RETURN back to Jerusalem? I speak not to some city, but to the true Jerusalem of the Creator.

Consider again Paul in regard to Jesus contemplating the following words of Jesus:

John 5:31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

Can a judge rule in his/her own cause? I think it was Heisenberg who found that at the quantum level that the quanta seemed to have consciousness which could react to our own consciousness. Thus what we expect to see is what we see.

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"The transition from the "possible" to the "actual" takes place during the act of observation. If we want to describe what happens in an atomic event, we have to realize that the word "happens" can apply only to the observation, and we may say that the transition from the "possible" to the "actual" takes place as soon as the interaction of the object with the measuring device, and thereby the rest of the world, has come into play; it is not connected with the act of registration by the mind of the observer. The discontinuous change in the probability function, however, takes place with the act of registration, because it is a discontinuous change of our knowledge in the instant of registration that has its image in the discontinuous change of the probability function." [1]

Heisenberg, Werner. Physics and Philosophy: The Revolution in Modern Science. (New York: Harper & Row Publishers, 1962). p. 54- 55.

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Can the self witness self? Where is the observer? Who will bear witness to The Way? The Truth? The Light? absent the veil of desire?