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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    They hate me.
    They will do nothing for me.

    Acts and statutes are copy written. Private property.
    The bar card grants permission to use them.
    Public has no standing in a private venue.
    Public is granted access which can be invoked at any time.


    In this video the judge states its his court house.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af5_1431881023
    That's kind of sad dude. Do you really live that way?

    Code is copyrighted, not the enrolled Law at the Library of Congress. Why would you want to rely upon copyrighted code anyway?

    'Venue' and 'Building' are NOT synonymous.

    In the video, the judge states he is in charge of this court house. That is correct; the chief judge is the building manager. Big difference.
    Last edited by BLBereans; 11-10-15 at 10:26 PM.

  2. #22
    Its the annotated codebooks that are copyrighted. The stuff that comes from the Queen's Printers isn't copyright. If you add annotations to a Bible, you can copyright the final work. But a KJV or Douay Rheims is public domain sans annotations.

    Re: Court buildings
    Yes sometimes governments lease space from private persons. They don't always own the entire buildings. Even if that is the case, the easement and access to the premises remains public during their business hours.
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Its the annotated codebooks that are copyrighted. The stuff that comes from the Queen's Printers isn't copyright. If you add annotations to a Bible, you can copyright the final work. But a KJV or Douay Rheims is public domain sans annotations.

    Re: Court buildings
    Yes sometimes governments lease space from private persons. They don't always own the entire buildings. Even if that is the case, the easement and access to the premises remains public during their business hours.
    Do you say that U.S.C. is NOT a BAR-specific administrative law form?

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by BLBereans View Post
    Do you say that U.S.C. is NOT a BAR-specific administrative law form?
    The United States Code is freely available online. If you want U.S. Code Annotated it costs $$ it is privately copyright because the annotations are made by private concerns. AFAIK, you can write the House or Senate and they'll send you free printout of a given statute or law.

    As for the U.S. district courts or U.S. Court of Claims being available to bar members exclusively, that is an entirely different matter as to the availability of the code documents themselves. Courts themselves are distinct from the Law of the Land that they acknowledge as part of due process. AFAIK, it is possible for a non-attorney to gain pro hac vice status with any given U.S. district court as well as for one to file 'pro se' or otherwise without an attorney. AFAIK, representation of statutory entities in court requires bar membership. But still, that has nothing to do with the copyright nature of the U.S. Code.

    You can download the ENTIRE U.S.Code in PDF and other formats right -> here--directly from the U.S. House of Representatives' Office of the Law Revision Counsel.

    If you would like Canada Federal laws, they are available via Government of Canada's website, right here. If you want laws for a particular province, simply do a search for Queen's Printer and the name of the province.

    AFAIK the Crown doesn't needs a bar card to access its own forums. In the several U.S.A., the Crown is the People.

    Related:
    United States Code Annotated® (USCA) - Thomson Reuters
    Last edited by allodial; 11-11-15 at 01:34 AM.
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

  5. #25
    More proof that government buildings are private not public.


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/04...lar-bills.html

    A Texas man was arrested last month after he refused to leave the county tax office while attempting to pay his property tax using tightly folded $1 bills.

    An arrest affidavit indicates Timothy Andrew Norris, 27, was asked by a tax collector to leave the Wichita County building on Jan. 28 for disrupting the operations of the office.

    The Wichita Falls Times Record News reported Norris was attempting to pay a $600 property tax using the $1 bills. The paper reported that the bills were so tightly folded, it "required tax office personnel approximately six minutes to unfold each bill."

    The affidavit says Norris pulled away from a deputy who was attempting to place him in handcuffs. He eventually was wrestled to the ground, placed in custody and charged with criminal trespass and resisting arrest.

    As of Monday he was no longer being held at the Wichita County jail. Wichita Falls is located northwest of Dallas.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    More proof that government buildings are private not public.


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/04...lar-bills.html

    A Texas man was arrested last month after he refused to leave the county tax office while attempting to pay his property tax using tightly folded $1 bills.

    An arrest affidavit indicates Timothy Andrew Norris, 27, was asked by a tax collector to leave the Wichita County building on Jan. 28 for disrupting the operations of the office.

    The Wichita Falls Times Record News reported Norris was attempting to pay a $600 property tax using the $1 bills. The paper reported that the bills were so tightly folded, it "required tax office personnel approximately six minutes to unfold each bill."

    The affidavit says Norris pulled away from a deputy who was attempting to place him in handcuffs. He eventually was wrestled to the ground, placed in custody and charged with criminal trespass and resisting arrest.

    As of Monday he was no longer being held at the Wichita County jail. Wichita Falls is located northwest of Dallas.
    Under the circumstances, he entered the building as a "taxpayer" hence the "venue" is statutory. The "government building" is used for both private and public business. When you go to that building, it is you, and you alone, who determines which "venue" you will enter. If you come as a "taxpayer", you will be treated as such regardless of the public brick and mortar.

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