Adventures in land ownership

[Treefarmer]

It sounds to me that you have done quite a bit of extensive research in the State archives or in the Land Records Office. So have I. Who granted the land to the States? You cannot get around the King's Grant. The King sent His Citizens, His subjects to settle these new proprietory settlements - commercial ventures. Think me wrong? Let us explore just one such settlement. The Carolinas.

Sir Walter Raleigh, being the Surveyor - so that the Claim could be made....

north carolina land patent.pdf

That document looks interesting Michael Joseph, thank you.
Have you seen or read some of the books described therein, such as The History of Land Titles in Western North Carolina?

[Michael Joseph]

That document looks interesting Michael Joseph, thank you.
Have you seen or read some of the books described therein, such as The History of Land Titles in Western North Carolina?

I was looking for the original land grants for Wake County. I found them filed in a library on mclenburg county. I admit i have not read those sources. I mean looking thru those archives was like a needle in haystack. The curator would not let me in some rooms - sensitive State information - you know.

[motla68]

I was looking for the original land grants for Wake County. I found them filed in a library on mclenburg county. I admit i have not read those sources. I mean looking thru those archives was like a needle in haystack. The curator would not let me in some rooms - sensitive State information - you know.

There is a book in wake county library I think called North Carolina History 1583, it shows some of the land grant information for north carolina, wake county was not formed until later, I think at one time it was part of Johnston County and it stretched all the way up to oxford.
My buddy who has a camp near North Wilkesboro has some good references to all that stuff too, I will ask him and get back with you.

[Michael Joseph]

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/

http://www.land-records.com/land-rec...nd-records.htm

http://members.tripod.com/gardner_2/landentry.html

http://www.archives.gov/

http://www.familyhistory101.com/maps.html


If you are on North Carolina, I can help you because I have done extensive research. The BLM cannot help you for the original 13.

I have the Metes and Bounds for the North Carolina and the Metes and Bounds for Wake County. Boundaries are important as these go to survey.

[Treefarmer]

If you are on North Carolina, I can help you because I have done extensive research. The BLM cannot help you for the original 13.

I have the Metes and Bounds for the North Carolina and the Metes and Bounds for Wake County. Boundaries are important as these go to survey.

Does that survey which you have include the area of North Carolina which later became the eastern part of Tennessee?

[Michael Joseph]

Does that survey which you have include the area of North Carolina which later became the eastern part of Tennessee?

If you need the metes and bounds for Tennessee, I can hook that up.

Answer: no

[Treefarmer]

If you need the metes and bounds for Tennessee, I can hook that up.

Answer: no

Sure, hook me up.
Thank you Michael Joseph.

[David Merrill]

Both of you are Great! I do not think I have ever read any Website that goes into this kind of detail and research. I don't believe it can be found prior to here.

[shikamaru]

Both of you are Great! I do not think I have ever read any Website that goes into this kind of detail and research. I don't believe it can be found prior to here.

There is much more, my friend.
You can raise the roof ....
David Wilbur Johnson has tons of great info on this stuff.

Bring in the financial side such as pertaining to the CAFR of the State, bonds, and the commercial standing of the court, I have a very good feeling that if your case goes to controversy, it may be sealed

Bring the boom

Plat maps
Surveys
Treaties
Patents or grants
Acts and Statutes in effect at the time of the creation of the muniment
Abstract of Title

Makes for a really nice sandwich

Micellaneous case jacket wouldn't hurt in this case either ....

[Treefarmer]

There is much more, my friend.
You can raise the roof ....
David Wilbur Johnson has tons of great info on this stuff.

Bring in the financial side such as pertaining to the CAFR of the State, bonds, and the commercial standing of the court, I have a very good feeling that if your case goes to controversy, it may be sealed

Bring the boom

Plat maps
Surveys
Treaties
Patents or grants
Acts and Statutes in effect at the time of the creation of the muniment
Abstract of Title

Makes for a really nice sandwich

Micellaneous case jacket wouldn't hurt in this case either ....

I looked up David Wilbur Johnson and found his talks on property rights.
Interesting stuff, but it will take me a while to listen to it all.

I think that the biggest obstacle to finding facts about land records is the un-availability of the old records in many areas.
At least in my particular search I keep running into dead ends because of "records burnt up in court house fire", "maps were not kept by County at the time", "Cherokees didn't have written records", "land sales were recorded at an office which hasn't existed in over a hundred years", etc.

I appreciate the many good points you raised shikamaru.