Quote Originally Posted by BLBereans View Post
That seems logical, reasonable, rational and perhaps is strongly supported by historical facts; however, it is more "intellectually" gratifying and a "juicier" story to put forth the heresy of Jesus somehow surviving the cross and going to hide somewhere, with his "tail between his legs", for the rest of his days. It is the "same-old" and ongoing polemic against God the Father and His Son, the Angel of the LORD and our savior Jesus, the Christ of Nazareth, that has been morphing and mutating since the lie in the Garden.
I was told at the highest levels of some of the well-mentioned secret societies they are fully aware of the truth and are afraid of that one known as Jesus/Joshua.


Quote Originally Posted by BLBereans View Post
I find that the motivation for power, wealth, control and being the supreme ideological STATE over people is more plausible then people acting these things out due to their adherence or recognition of some duty to fulfill prophecy, however "off" there timing may have been.

Muhammeds' Medina campaign was aggressive and brutal since he garnered no traction in Mecca as a peaceful self-proclaimed "phophet" of a "new revelation". He went to the Jews and Christians to preach and was turned away and dismissed. He found his well-trained army of fighters in Medina and his convenient new "revelation" transformed the message from one of a peaceful ministry to an unyielding army of jihadists ready, willing and "called by God" to kill or be killed in order to establish the Caliphate.
It doesn't take too much digging to see that a key facet of Zoroastrianism may always have been about pushing toward or building an 'ideal state'.

Eventually, the Church of Rome had to respond and defend the territory being encroached upon else be taken over by the "newcomer" and his caliphate army. Hence the start of the Crusades which, of course, also eventually morphed into a wanton killing spree of ANYONE who opposed the Church of Rome, including the true saints who followed, and claimed, Jesus the Christ as their Redeemer.

Money, Power, Control; nothing more.
Those who think and rule carnally think it all has to do with physical land. Physical land and being joint-heirs of the flesh (i.e. the manifest realm) are secondary blessings of God and the kingdom of heaven, IMHO. The primary blessings are health, sound mind, healthy and sound relationships with God and each other.

Notwithstanding the aforementioned "power struggle", I believe the Church of Rome plays a major role in what you put forth here; the similarities between Islam and the Roman Catholic Church are quite astounding when one delves deep into study of both.
The truth has its way of lighting the Path and aiding discernment.