I am some dude latest recording Boris and usufruct

[Gavilan]

http://iamsomedude.com/audio/boris_talkshoe.mp3

Very good recording, he explains how he came about understanding the system.

[george]

hi Gavilan,

5 hours! Im hearing methods from everyone, David Merril, Karl Lentz, Jona Bey, Curt Kallenbach and more all mixed in together and lots of new stuff too. the court clerks assistant had lots of info too. this is a good one indeed.

thanks for posting

[walter]

hi Gavilan,

5 hours! Im hearing methods from everyone, David Merril, Karl Lentz, Jona Bey, Curt Kallenbach and more all mixed in together and lots of new stuff too. the court clerks assistant had lots of info too. this is a good one indeed.

thanks for posting

Don't follow Jona Bey direction. Many error and omissions.

It comes down to two issues always.
Don't claim their NAME and let them do what they want with it. (David Merril way)
Or claim the NAME and hold then liable on using it. (Boris way)

[walter]

http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents...son/jefl81.php

To James Madison Paris, Sep. 6, 1789

""that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living;" that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. "

[Michael Joseph]

http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents...son/jefl81.php

To James Madison Paris, Sep. 6, 1789

""that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living;" that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. "

If the Earth belongs in usufruct to the living then whose property is the Earth? And who then has the right to make its use in enjoyment? Who has the power to Lease the Use? And how and where is the evidence of said lease? Who let the use to the trustee?

[walter]

If the Earth belongs in usufruct to the living then whose property is the Earth? And who then has the right to make its use in enjoyment? Who has the power to Lease the Use? And how and where is the evidence of said lease? Who let the use to the trustee?

The governments are the naked owner holding it for the creator in usufruct.
The evidence is the Birth Record.
We are held in a federal territory because we have not formulated our own government to be a part of the territory. = Belligerent. An infant of the state.

And George, Jona Bey's way if you walk through it leaves one stateless. A position nobody wants to be in if you understand the implication of it. Judicial rights are the only ones that apply to a stateless person. Those rights can be removed by the state at anytime. If done then Guantanamo Bay is your retirement home.

I like the line form the interview that states that Satan is an accountant and was given the kingdom of earth legal system to rule over.

[george]

Don't follow Jona Bey direction. Many error and omissions.

It comes down to two issues always.
Don't claim their NAME and let them do what they want with it. (David Merril way)
Or claim the NAME and hold then liable on using it. (Boris way)

hi walter,
not aware of errors but the omissions he does so that he can charge consultation fees. doesnt seem to honorable IMO.

the two issues about claiming the name or not is what Im looking more into now. Im some what familiar with how David's method works since he has showed us so much about that and how he has made it work for him so now I will be trying to verify and confirm how making a claim to the name works.

If the Earth belongs in usufruct to the living then whose property is the Earth? And who then has the right to make its use in enjoyment? Who has the power to Lease the Use? And how and where is the evidence of said lease? Who let the use to the trustee?

hi Michael Joseph,
difficult questions.. property? I think it was shakumra who pointed out here that the origin of property is in religion which seems to makes a lot of sense. then theres Karl Lent'z thoughts on it in which he says property is what is proper to a man, that makes sense too. and IIRC you have said/wrote that property is interest in an estate, no?

it seems to relate to ownership in some way though and that (ownership) seems to be the root of many if not all of our problems but I dont see any other way we can coexist here without boundaries (property) but Im trying.

whos property is the earth? I cant imagine but Im pretty sure it is not mine or any other mans so that leaves us with it is not a property at all, no? I suppose it could be a god or gods property but there seems to be no way to verify that either.

without comprehending exactly what property is or is not then none of this makes sense.


FWIW I found this site after hearing a mention of it in the OP's link.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...=137688&cmd=tc

seems that it is the former court clerks (not assistant as I previously posted) site but Ive found it to be very good.

thanks

[Gavilan]

It's odd, one day you are fighting to be rich. Then another day you wake up and see that even after having everything your heart desires, you are still locked up on this earth. Death becames nothing more than a transitory event into a further void, no fear no joy.

Cruel joke of existence, was he or she lonely from being one of one? Shattered Itself into infinite pieces just to begin again?

It's all a lie that's true, it's true that's all a lie.

In simple words, one is master the other slave. If only two people were to inhabit the earth at one time how long would harmony last? Before one became master and the other slave?

[Michael Joseph]

It's odd, one day you are fighting to be rich. Then another day you wake up and see that even after having everything your heart desires, you are still locked up on this earth. Death becames nothing more than a transitory event into a further void, no fear no joy.

Cruel joke of existence, was he or she lonely from being one of one? Shattered Itself into infinite pieces just to begin again?

It's all a lie that's true, it's true that's all a lie.

In simple words, one is master the other slave. If only two people were to inhabit the earth at one time how long would harmony last? Before one became master and the other slave?

The desire - mind is a Beast. She is the GREAT WHORE of CONFUSION [Babylon]. Her intercourse with the fleshly carnal mind only births children of desolation. Thusly you are correct it seems vanity and vanity and all is vanity.

Ecc 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

Ecc 4:13 Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.
Ecc 4:14 For out of prison he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor.

Ecc 5:9 Moreover the profit of the earth is for all: the king himself is served by the field.

Ecc 5:10 He that loveth silver shall not be satisfied with silver; nor he that loveth abundance with increase: this is also vanity.

Ecc 5:11 When goods increase, they are increased that eat them: and what good is there to the owners thereof, saving the beholding of them with their eyes?

Ecc 5:12 The sleep of a labouring man is sweet, whether he eat little or much: but the abundance of the rich will not suffer him to sleep.

Ecc 5:13 There is a sore evil which I have seen under the sun, namely, riches kept for the owners thereof to their hurt.


The KING HIMSELF is served by the field. Christ is manifest WITHIN. For what causes compel the creation? Answer that one and you will know the womb that births the Usufruct.

[george]

MJ, you dont like to discuss property definition?