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Thread: "You Don’t Have to Show Any ID to Fly"

  1. #11
    Court-issued ID is government ID. ID does not have to be issued by the executive departments of a state.

    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    In Canada its in the statutes/acts.



    [I]Canadian Aviation Security Regulations, 2012....
    Can you say ICAO?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    It seems that whenever somebody is buying a ticket online there is a NOTICE that they will need government-issued ID at boarding. It may simply be a fiduciary responsibility. If they turn away business...
    Again likely an ICAO compliance issue. Furthermore, government buyout or takeover of commercial airlines has a lot to do with this.
    Last edited by allodial; 04-07-16 at 11:40 PM.
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  2. #12
    Just as their are controls on capital as to restriction or impedance of movement, might government issued IDs and records serve the same purpose?

    In addition to regulation, there is the monetization and administrative aspects to consider as well.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Just as their are controls on capital as to restriction or impedance of movement, might government issued IDs and records serve the same purpose?

    In addition to regulation, there is the monetization and administrative aspects to consider as well.
    One side of government ID is 'limitation of liability'. If the person is a corporation and gets injured, far less liability on an aircraft. Having living souls on board is more liability than a corporation can handle. That is, which would you be liable for: the death of 500 PERSONS or the death of 500 living souls?
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

  4. #14
    Are you identified as a passenger like luggage tagging insurance. Government regulates airports for a death certificate and death benefit.The process in life is private or public the Vietnam war memorial comes to mind a cold list made public all those private men/women the dog tagging. How government tags us nothing about assigned identification what separates identification only a claim.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by xparte View Post
    Are you identified as a passenger like luggage tagging insurance. Government regulates airports for a death certificate and death benefit.The process in life is private or public the Vietnam war memorial comes to mind a cold list made public all those private men/women the dog tagging. How government tags us nothing about assigned identification what separates identification only a claim.
    Or maybe they are wanting to be able to track when an "asset" moves from one "district" to another?
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    One side of government ID is 'limitation of liability'. If the person is a corporation and gets injured, far less liability on an aircraft. Having living souls on board is more liability than a corporation can handle. That is, which would you be liable for: the death of 500 PERSONS or the death of 500 living souls?
    Part of limitation of liability is transference of liability. This is the bread and butter of insurance.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Part of limitation of liability is transference of liability. This is the bread and butter of insurance.
    There has to be some consideration for a contract to be valid? And so a cause for the piper to get paid?
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    There has to be some consideration for a contract to be valid? And so a cause for the piper to get paid?
    Is not the consideration the premium paid by policyholder to the insurer?

    Further thoughts that occurred to me:

    1) Insurance is a form of hedge (risk management, risk management strategy).
    2) Risk management is of the actuarial sciences.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    One side of government ID is 'limitation of liability'. If the person is a corporation and gets injured, far less liability on an aircraft. Having living souls on board is more liability than a corporation can handle. That is, which would you be liable for: the death of 500 PERSONS or the death of 500 living souls?
    That is, which would you be liable for: the death of 500 PERSONS or the death of 500 living souls?

    And that is how the World Criminal Banker Cartel has stolen our rights away...

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by loveunderlaw View Post
    That is, which would you be liable for: the death of 500 PERSONS or the death of 500 living souls?

    And that is how the World Criminal Banker Cartel has stolen our rights away...

    Illusions.


    Clawing through. I especially enjoyed that the Survey (last page) is above the high tide mark. This exposes the cestui que vie trust as a fraudulent breach, to assume that somebody failing to express themselves as alive after seven years is the presumption they are "lost at sea".
    Last edited by David Merrill; 04-12-16 at 06:30 PM.

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