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    IRS “Secret” that's Sweeping the Nation

    IRS “Secret” that's Sweeping the Nation - That was the subject of an email received today. When I saw it I thought: I know that secret! It's redeeming lawful money. and I've been doing it for years. The email didn't talk of that, it was about converting retirement accounts into gold & silver.

    The “Secret” is really quite simple. You can avoid the IRS income tax by avoiding Private Credit of the Federal Reserve. Your option to demand Lawful Money is codified at 12 U.S. Code § 411.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorne View Post
    IRS “Secret” that's Sweeping the Nation - That was the subject of an email received today. When I saw it I thought: I know that secret! It's redeeming lawful money. and I've been doing it for years. The email didn't talk of that, it was about converting retirement accounts into gold & silver.

    The “Secret” is really quite simple. You can avoid the IRS income tax by avoiding Private Credit of the Federal Reserve. Your option to demand Lawful Money is codified at 12 U.S. Code § 411.

    Federal Reserve notes are practically worthless, something like .84 out of each Fed. note goes to cover the manufactured debt\inflation. We need to go back to using real
    United States $, that are debt free & backed by actual resources...

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    Secret

    Secrets?

    Is the redemption of this so called lawful money true?


    There is spoken of redeeming lawful money, so as to not

    consent to the personal obligation of debt, an inturn being

    supposedly tax liable, and therefore not using private credit,

    but rather public/lawful money, very well, but every time a

    check is cashed, the payor of the check

    is using THE very medium of private credit, and such funds,

    call them what one will, is still deriving from the source of

    private credit within the payors financial account, that the

    payee is being issued whether making a demand or not.

    The PayCheck itself is stamped on it's face as a form of this

    so called private credit, due to the source of funds derived,

    that the instrument presents.


    Does anyone have evidence to support that there is anything salutary in
    making a redemption for lawful money on a paycheck?

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    Does anyone have evidence to support that there is anything [good] in
    making a redemption for lawful money on a paycheck?



    are you asking for evidence that redeeming lawful money brings us outside the Federal Reserve districts, outside central banking, and thus outside income taxes and the warfare it funds? Are you compiling a list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcel View Post

    Does anyone have evidence to support that there is anything [good] in
    making a redemption for lawful money on a paycheck?



    are you asking for evidence that redeeming lawful money brings us outside the Federal Reserve districts, outside central banking, and thus outside income taxes and the warfare it funds? Are you compiling a list?
    Read thread "1040 Help"
    Last edited by doug555; 09-15-16 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug555 View Post
    Read thread "1040 Help"
    National Liberty Alliance Normal topic, Contract trumps Law - BEWARE by doug555 Does FRN Usage undermine the Grand Jury? Where did this blog go?
    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlingwonder View Post

    Does anyone have evidence to support that there is anything salutary in
    making a redemption for lawful money on a paycheck?
    Thanks for pointing this poetic post out and welcome Marcel;

    One makes the demand. That is all the law requires of anybody.

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    First lorn (I am not getting personal just asking a question) tell me how in your opinion how this became “your” obligation ?

    I like to know if it was assumed or a written contract? Assumed is hearsay - written contract I like to see it.

    whirlingwonder asks 12 U.S. Code § 411 Is the redemption of this so called lawful money true? In my experience 12 U.S. Code § 411 was first denied by a revenue agent – today it’s a different story.

    David said “One makes the demand. That is all the law requires of anybody”. I say look at the expiration date of the law which you can redeem.

    The Pilgrims Society staged a massive nationalization...read "confiscation" of gold and silver, March 1933 into early 1937, dispossessing Americans of their natural right to protect themselves from depredations of their inflationary government. See "Metals Confiscation Facts And Prospects," a 312 page pdf file, original source material from the Commercial & Financial Chronicle and the New York Times and other sources, covering in depth week by week over a four year span Franklin Roosevelt’s seizure of precious metals from Americans. Franklin Roosevelt, PILGRIMS SOCIETY member ...
    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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    People will say that the social movement of modern times is immediately concerned, not with relations of Right, but with the removal of economic inequalities. To such objection one must reply that the demands stirring within men are in nowise always correctly expressed in the thoughts they consciously form about them. The thoughts thus consciously formed are the outcome of direct experiences; but the demands themselves have their origin in complexes of life that are much deeper-seated, and that are not directly experienced. And if one aims at bringing about conditions of life which can satisfy these demands, one must attempt to get down to these deeper-seated complexes. A consideration of the relations that have come about between industrial economy and civil right shows that the life of civil rights amongst men has come to be dependent on their economic life. Now, if one were to try superficially, by a lopsided alteration in the forms of economic life, to abolish those economic inequalities that the dependence of rights on economics has brought with it, then in a very short while similar inequalities would inevitably result, supposing the new economic order were again allowed to build up the system of rights after its own fashion. One will never really touch what is working itself up through the social movement to the surface of modern life until one brings about social conditions in which, alongside the claims and interests of the economic life, those of Rights can find realization and satisfaction on their own independent basis.People who do not clearly see this will always raise an objection to the conception of the body social as an organism consisting of three systems, each to be worked on its own distinct basis — i. e., the Spiritual life, the State for the administration of Rights, and the round of Industrial Economy. They will protest that such a differentiation will destroy the necessary unity of communal life. To this one must reply that right now this unity is destroying itself in the effort to maintain itself intact. The life of rights, that grows up out of economic power, in its actual working undermines this economic power, because it is felt by those economically inferior to be a foreign body within the social organism. That spirit coming to be dominant in civil rights and economic life, when these control its workings, condemns the living spirit — which in each individual is working its way up from the soul's depths — to powerlessness in the face of practical life. If, however, the system of civil rights grows up on independent ground out of the sense of right, and if the Will of the individual dwelling in the spirit is developed in a free life of the spirit, then the Rights system and Spiritual force and Economic activity all work together into a unity. They will be able to do so when they can develop, each according to its own proper nature, in distinct fields of life. It is just in separation that they will turn to unity; whereas, shaped from an artificial unity, they become estranged Equity follows the law.

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