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    However, to fall for false record (of time, i.e. history meaning the truth of what occurred) is like accepting a counterfeit symphony or a false survey. One would miss the true motifs of God. But then consider that judgment was explained in terms of rejection of the truth. RUBIN realized the truth rather than rejecting it, so resigned. Apparently, he was aware of God's motifs--had he embraced alternative history he might have laughed instead to his own chagrin. On that note, some fail to realize that when it comes to "Jews" or Judahites (including those of the Christ's lawful Christians), not all subscribe to the Talmud which was heavily forced upon Sephardim and others by the Ahkenaz.

    Is not taking the true record and survey over time lightly much like taking a court record and register lightly? Arguing about the record, bears what fruit? The attack on meaning has been substantial these days. A true prophet edifies.

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    Nonetheless, what transpired from 130 BC to 70AD is important to get a grip on. The Idumeans who are penned as being for the most part the 'eternal enemies' of Israel attacked/sacked/seiged Israel prior to waging war on Judah (and Benjamin) with Rome. The distinctions are remarkable. Saved/delivered Israel and Judah exited to safety (salvation) as instructed and exhorted by Jesus when the glory departed from the temple and stood on the Mount of Olives for 3 and 1/2 years or so. Thusly that true Jesus failed to characterize the Worthless Shepherd. Come 68 A.D. Idumeans/Romans/etc. began to surround Jerusalem and judgment against Judah was waged. Those who had rejected Jesus were slaughtered or taken into captivity (Flavius Josephus was one of them). The idea of Judah judging Judah makes how much sense? If one takes Idumeans as being Judah then that is the kind of logic one would be embracing.

    And the king of Babylon slew the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes: he slew also all the princes of Judah in Riblah. Then he put out the eyes of Zedekiah; and the king of Babylon bound him in chains, and carried him to Babylon, and put him in prison till the day of his death. Jeremiah 52:10-11
    If one takes a look, one might find that the problems faced by Israel during Hezekiah's time was in trying to render Israel as a secular (secular humanist?) and carnal state. Making alliances with Egypt and Assyria rather than seeking God was a big mistake. This left them vulnerable to adversaries. Look at America and Europe today after being coaxed to rely on science rather than God.

    Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.
    Thusly the importance of being prayerful rather than careful.

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    Last edited by allodial; 04-27-16 at 10:44 PM. Reason: 60AD to 70AD to 130 BC to 70AD --two hundred year period.
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