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    nice Job Motla. Way to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    usually it is $3/ cert. copy and 0.25/copy. I heard they went up on their pricing scheme. Great work. Understanding Trust Law is the ticket. ROFL....

    for those of you who are looking for a book to read concerning Trust Law - the GREATEST book I have ever found is the Scriptures.
    Yeah, a smile and some small talk, a little personal consoling goes a long way with people. They get a lot of hot heads in there that do not know who they are, plus it is not the clerk's fault if a judge makes a bad decision. Try it sometime, give some lovin. ;-)
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    Ok, here is the first ticket and the case status from court, pretty much went the same way.

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    Thank you and I owe you more than an apology Motla68 - like I said. I have processed the images so they can be read a little more easily:

    http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1...ttickethea.jpg
    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3...tticketdis.jpg

    I apologize for allowing the inference you are a liar to stand. I actually felt that you would be surprised by handcuffs rather than you were lying. The redemption of lawful money is elevated to an even more esteemed position by your intrepid nature and fearless endeavors to understand law and nature.

    The non endorsement verbiage is a variation that suitors have not formulated:




    Exchange for Credit on Account
    Deposit to State of North Carolina
    The Owner of Account
    Care of Treasury of State of North Carolina
    :The Usufructuary
    Authorized Signatory X per (legal name)
    (signature line)
    The NAME
    Persona non grata


    You are obviously treating the Statement of the Charges as the financial instrument that it is.

    Just the same, I find it a bit confusing because I do not understand the trust structure well enough. Michael Joseph is correct though - the scriptures, especially Genesis are good instruction on trust and contract law.

    Thank you for taking that trip to show us so that we were not left wondering. I feel you have been respectful of my court's rules of evidence by doing that. I am glad it did not cost you much out-of-pocket.

    I am curious though; have you renewed the registration yet?


    Regards,

    David Merrill.

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    Never thought I would see this day come, but thank you for the gracious apology. Now you know a mistake can be corrected at any time.
    Yes, KISS = Keep It Simple Sojourner , call it for what it is. Be like caveman, point and grunt, hek the queen of england gets away with that!

    I really did not understand a whole lot about trust law either back in 2009 when we first started, pulled over 4 times in 4 months, no tickets or jail time, BUT i knew what usufruct and usufructuary meant and I was not even using scripture for justification back then.

    It almost did not happen, dark clouds hovering the whole morning, sprinkling on the way back to the bus stop from the courthouse and right after getting on the bus it just busted loose and pouring down rain.

    I took it into inspection and it failed, the cost of repairs even if I did it myself would have nearly costed the value of the car. It sat for a few days while a made a decision, after talking to my mom she said " I want you to get rid of that damn thing, tired of looking at the eyesore, I will even give you money towards another car if you get rid of it." So you can probably guess how fast of a decision that was.
    No, sold the car a few weeks ago to a junk dealer. My wife and I share the van right now, have not found anything I liked yet.

    Peace be upon you.
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    Thank you for displaying that first disposition and verbiage Motla68;


    http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5...tonticket2.jpg
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    That explains it for me quite clearly. This is still the effective verbiage - ...or exchanged for [Lawful Money].

    What I see is that you used that verbiage stamp on the first one, and even though you changed it on the second ticket, the DA and judge presumed that you knew what you were doing mainly because of the first ticket's stamp.

    Now before you think I am criticizing, I am also factoring in the woman who used only the stamp - who got her Setoff.


    This makes sense to me within the verbiage of the current law:


    On both citations you send them to the Treasury for redemption of thier charges. But the verbiage about lawful money is only expressed on the first ticket so in my science applied to your experience you can drop all the handwritten stuff but are wise to keep the stamped verbiage.

    Understanding that you have to make your demand is a lot easier than studying extensively into trust law.

    Amazing display of validation Motla68!! Kudos! And thank you.


    Regards,

    David Merrill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    What I see is that you used that verbiage stamp on the first one, and even though you changed it on the second ticket, the DA and judge presumed that you knew what you were doing mainly because of the first ticket's stamp.

    On both citations you send them to the Treasury for redemption of thier charges. But the verbiage about lawful money is only expressed on the first ticket so in my science applied to your experience you can drop all the handwritten stuff but are wise to keep the stamped verbiage.
    Just to review events and maybe rethink the first sentence quoted above, There was 2 different DA's and we did this at the check in counter before you even step into the courtroom, so I never stepped one foot into court and never had to appear before a judge. I let both DA's know that I wanted to settle right then and there "honorably". This tells him that would not like to cause embarrassment for either of us by settling now before dragging the matter into a public court room.

    For me the whole lawful money statement thing is still questionable, I am still waiting on a couple things, someone to send me proof of their success not using the stamp at all or the verbiage and two the replies from the registrars. It could be that they the court officers were woken up to the fact that I know who I was and instead of interfering and creating controversy that they were just charging themselves and then the matter is discharged. The remittance however is a different animal, that is outside of court and I think probably some sort of setoff happens according to your Science in that case.

    More to come sometime in the future as I make some of them scientific discoveries.

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by motla68 View Post
    Just to review events and maybe rethink the first sentence quoted above, There was 2 different DA's and we did this at the check in counter before you even step into the courtroom, so I never stepped one foot into court and never had to appear before a judge. I let both DA's know that I wanted to settle right then and there "honorably". This tells him that would not like to cause embarrassment for either of us by settling now before dragging the matter into a public court room.

    For me the whole lawful money statement thing is still questionable, I am still waiting on a couple things, someone to send me proof of their success not using the stamp at all or the verbiage and two the replies from the registrars. It could be that they the court officers were woken up to the fact that I know who I was and instead of interfering and creating controversy that they were just charging themselves and then the matter is discharged. The remittance however is a different animal, that is outside of court and I think probably some sort of setoff happens according to your Science in that case.

    More to come sometime in the future as I make some of them scientific discoveries.

    Peace
    They shall be redeemed... at the Treasury.

    That part is already written into the law.




    The woman got her setoff without mentioning anything about the Treasury.

    But then I am biased after producing two videos and instructing people to make their demand known and them getting full tax Refunds. You are onto something quite clever here though - I would not drop the stamp.

    I am thinking that you treat the instrument like the bills and get the same result - simple and clean!


    I see no need to direct them to the Treasury when the law already does. Then again there is no harm in it - it just makes for lack of Control in the Science.



    Regards,

    David Merrill.

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    Very Good motla! Forgiving his debt he brought against you is true Wisdom. Everyone is happy, and everyone can go home in Peace. All interactions can be handled this way as well. So many People either project Fear or Hate when interacting with Peace Officers. They can feel it too. I would say they dealing with others emotions instead of their actions on a daily basis might be one of the reasons why we are seeing more brutality coming from them. That is why forgiveness and Love are so important in all of our dealings. We reap what we sow.

    Oh, and can a Stamp be used in place of handwriting? That would save even more time for everyone involved. Ok, the stamp is covered in proceeding comments. Thanks to everyone on this thread. Simple and Clean as David has stated.
    Last edited by Bear Eagle; 09-22-11 at 11:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Eagle View Post
    Very Good motla! Forgiving his debt he brought against you is true Wisdom. Everyone is happy, and everyone can go home in Peace. All interactions can be handled this way as well. So many People either project Fear or Hate when interacting with Peace Officers. They can feel it too. I would say they dealing with others emotions instead of their actions on a daily basis might be one of the reasons why we are seeing more brutality coming from them. That is why forgiveness and Love are so important in all of our dealings. We reap what we sow.

    Oh, and can a Stamp be used in place of handwriting? That would save even more time for everyone involved. Ok, the stamp is covered in proceeding comments. Thanks to everyone on this thread. Simple and Clean as David has stated.


    Hopefully on point;


    For some time, since the Freeman Standoff at least I have had the security guards at the courthouse dog me around whenever I am there. I went to file papers the other day and one asked me for my ID. I gave him a World Identity Card and he quickly took it and five guards gathered around while I gathered my things out of the rubber tub. He brought it back to me cheerfully and thanked me.

    I realized that they had heard about it from me using it downstairs in Records and wanted to get a look. They let me go about in the courthouse unescorted.


    P.S. Here is another possibility.

    The driver license cards and the state-issued ID cards are now Smart. Possibly they are requesting ID from people who come in without Smart ID? They may have installed a Smart Reader recently at the courthouse so that they get a complete ID on anybody who comes in. I would guess they saw my stainless steel wallet maybe too; they are supposedly RFID proof - bah, humbug!
    Last edited by David Merrill; 09-23-11 at 12:53 AM.

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