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    The decline and fall of the English system of finance by Thomas Paine

    https://books.google.com/books?id=OC...inance&f=false

    Thomas Paine did a much excellent exposition of the English system of finance and how the fraud is carried out in the above linked book.

    For those students of money and credit, it's a much needed reference material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavilan View Post
    https://books.google.com/books?id=OC...inance&f=false

    Thomas Paine did a much excellent exposition of the English system of finance and how the fraud is carried out in the above linked book.

    For those students of money and credit, it's a much needed reference material.


    Thank you Gavilan;

    That kind of post is really what makes time here worthwhile.

    What strikes my resonance is the idea of decadence in the Torrens System of registeration.

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    Coincidentally, around the time of the start of the U.S. Civil War, the stronger emergence of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the USA, stronger break with orthodox Christianity in America, the Papacy's loss of its Papal States (1870) in Europe (Italy), federation of Canada (1867), Bishop Strossmayer's speech (1870) we see the emergence of the Torrens system in Australia and Canada. The Domesday (Doomsday?) Book (1066).

    Though Thomas Paine might be correct in some regards on finances, I would not suggest his ideas to have been of primary embrace by those who fought the American Revolution. Also, the evidence tends to show that the decline in England truly took hold around 1665: that is what paved way for what followed. Many started to escape to the Americas then and even more by Thomas Paine's time of authorship of the above mentioned work.
    Last edited by allodial; 08-29-16 at 04:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Coincidentally, around the time of the start of the U.S. Civil War, the stronger emergence of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the USA, stronger break with orthodox Christianity in America, the Papacy's loss of its Papal States (1870) in Europe (Italy), federation of Canada (1867), Bishop Strossmayer's speech (1870) we see the emergence of the Torrens system in Australia and Canada. The Domesday (Doomsday?) Book (1066).

    Though Thomas Paine might be correct in some regards on finances, I would not suggest his ideas to have been of primary embrace by those who fought the American Revolution. Also, the evidence tends to show that the decline in England truly took hold around 1665.


    My point in the link is that even when the judge is real, one would reverse the transaction; not just declare a proper sale to have never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    My point in the link is that even when the judge is real, one would reverse the transaction...
    That gets the the purpose of true, organic government: [1] to protect the innocent; [2] to keep the poor and the widow safe from oppression; [3] to promote or uphold equity; [4] to protect the upright from the base, low, and degenerate (same as #1). Anything too far from that and you might just be dealing with organized crime posing as lawful government (relevantly: The Dangers of Municipal Trading; Racketeering).

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    ...not just declare a proper sale to have never happened.
    Reversing the transaction would at the least promote equity and restore parties to their original condition. To declare a proper sale to never have transpired: more robbery under the guise of officialdom. If a judge is using the court to enrich his revenue base, whether in collusion with others or not, he is biased and should be recused.
    Last edited by allodial; 08-29-16 at 10:37 AM.
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    In the case I am thinking of, the "judge" was running a vacant office by fraudulently signing a deviant oath of office.

    Click Here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    In the case I am thinking of, the "judge" was running a vacant office by fraudulently signing a deviant oath of office.

    Click Here.
    When a territorial, U.N., executive agreement and private law toting person is posing as a de jure official and knows it, he fudges the oath of office. They're doing the same thing in Australia. Perhaps the proper response of a sovereign people would be to assert or enforce the establishment and perpetuation of lawful government.

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    Basically, Walsh was right. The territorial jurisdiction of the United States is very limited. Even the formation of the National Guard system tends to make the National Guard Article I, Section 8, Clause 12 (re: "standing armies in time of peace...") rather than de jure militia (note: the term militia encompasses law enforcement, fire fighting, emergency responders as well as military defense of a county or state). On a similar note: Hitler is (ironically) lauded as a 'savior of Germany' even though he sought expertise in bypassing the German constitution and destroying the nation. He didn't even want them producing good weapons so he blocked production of the assault weapon (one might suspect that he knew the fate he planned for Germans and didn't want them to be able to defend themselves that well). Like his modern counterparts, Hitler hated the assault rifle. He probably didn't want those millions of Germans they sent off to Russian prison camps to be able to defend themselves that well.
    Last edited by allodial; 08-30-16 at 02:12 AM.
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    What is a recused judge to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    If a judge is using the court to enrich his revenue base, whether in collusion with others or not, he is biased and should be recused.
    Mr. WOLSKI has been recused and unable to mention anything since February. So he just says it is Unregistered and stipulates that his Order is NOT TO BE PUBLISHED!

    Docket Report 8/29/16
    Order to Dismiss/Close Case - NOT TO BE PUBLISHED



    P.S. I will specify on the R4C clerk instruction - TO BE PUBLISHED. That will learn them good!
    Last edited by David Merrill; 08-30-16 at 03:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Mr. WOLSKI has been recused and unable to mention anything since February. So he just says it is Unregistered and stipulates that his Order is NOT TO BE PUBLISHED!

    Docket Report 8/29/16
    Order to Dismiss/Close Case - NOT TO BE PUBLISHED

    P.S. I will specify on the R4C clerk instruction - TO BE PUBLISHED. That will learn them good!
    Hopefully they are capable of learning and coming to a proper understanding. Maybe one day they will perceive the connection between the Christ's lawful assembly and the house of Judah.
    Last edited by allodial; 08-30-16 at 05:56 AM.
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Hopefully they are capable of learning and coming to a proper understanding. Maybe one day they will perceive the connection between the Christ's lawful assembly and the house of Judah.
    This gets better and better! Funny how a little sleep sheds a lot of light. Look at the back side of the Supreme Court document - Page 2. The clerk put the "RECEIVED" stamp there where it might not be noticed!

    So this tells me that they understand the Connection you speak of. Or something very similar.
    Last edited by David Merrill; 08-30-16 at 08:49 AM.

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