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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    This gets better and better! Funny how a little sleep sheds a lot of light. Look at the back side of the Supreme Court document - Page 2. The clerk put the "RECEIVED" stamp there where it might not be noticed!

    So this tells me that they understand the Connection you speak of. Or something very similar.
    The term "separate sovereign" is a very interesting piece of art. That verbiage ("separate sovereign") tells me that Comrade WOLSKI may have taken a refresher look at United States v. Cruikshank (1875) in drafting his ORDER. And guess what? That case is a post-Civil War case that is very much pertinent to characteristics of the 'new' post-Civil War Union (stranger container) which seems highly modeled after the Canadian style of federation (in Canada each of the provinces are regarded to be sovereign, each has a Lt. Governor General and there also is a Governor-General).

    This does not, however, necessarily imply that the two governments possess powers in common, or bring them into conflict with each other. It is the natural consequence of a citizenship which owes allegiance to two sovereignties, and claims protection from both. The citizen cannot complain, because he has voluntarily submitted himself to such a form of government. He owes allegiance to the two departments, so to speak, and within their respective spheres must pay the penalties which each exacts for disobedience to its laws. In return, he can demand protection from each within its own jurisdiction. United States v. Cruikshank (1875)
    In my assessment, even with lack of a principal-agent relationship, if the United States, is facilitating a disturbance or the like, then the matter tends to come under tort law.

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    He mentions torts later on. If you look closely, he refers to:

    1. Colorado ("Colorado is, however, a separate sovereign"--does not specifically refer to "the State of Colorado" there);
    2. the State of Colorado;
    3. the state of Colorado ("The United States does not have an agency relationship with the state of Colorado or the Colorado judiciary"). {He speaks truth because officers of the Crown aren't necessarily State officers.}


    What about District of Colorado?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    So this tells me that they understand the Connection you speak of. Or something very similar.
    Very likely they do.
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    Furthermore, when used in language how does one distinguish between District of Colorado and the Federal Reserve District where Colorado is found on a map of the Federal Reserve districts?


    - Without pointing to a map of the Federal Reserve Districts?

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    IMHO, all those Colorado, Kansas (pre-Civil War), Oklahoma, Wyoming, Nebraska, etc. FRB-member banks would have their FRB home situs in the Eastern District of Missouri (FRB Kansas). However, it just happens that, generally speaking, if one can sue someone in a U.S. district court, it can be in any one of them (yes, if you so desired you could sue your neighbor through the Southern District of New York even if he lives right next door). However, their members in the Federal Reserve Ban of Kansas City puts that contractual situs in the Eastern District of Missouri. Just like old times (re: Louisiana Purchase), eh?

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    For what is worth, the old French street signs have returned to downtown St. Louis.



    For some reason, the movie Edge of Tomorrow and its persistent reference to the Louvre Pyramid built by Grand Orient socialist, Francois Mitterrand comes to mind.

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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    About any law dictionary will tell us that Louisiana never adopted the Uniform Commercial Code. Still under French common law?


    Thank you for that about Colorado and its Federal Reserve nexus!

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    It would seem that the clerk believes Mr. WOLSKI is recused in that WOLSKI makes it clear that this ORDER is not to be published, yet it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    It would seem that the clerk believes Mr. WOLSKI is recused in that WOLSKI makes it clear that this ORDER is not to be published, yet it is.

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    Let me see if I got this right. It seems that the State of Colorado is a closed loop. So who will administrate and chastise the administration of the State should the administration go rogue. For it seems on one hand they quote all souls are subject to the higher powers, but on the other, it seems there is no power to chastise or give judgment against one who has gone rogue.

    If a system has gone rogue - how to fix? Who has the power? I wonder - who - indeed. Since the lands are Papal Lands under conquest, it would seem that the Pope would have the power. And since, you have exhausted administrative remedy and found at that level a judge absent a valid oath, it seems the system has gone awry.

    Is there anyone who can help a Widows son? Get it? The true ecclesia has been widowed by a husbandman who died to carnality. And now when one comes forth with a valid claim in class action to clean up this "hog slop" one is met with stagnation in support of a corrupt unmolified purtified mess. It seems a male prostitute has married a whore - that about sums it up.

    Who shall right the ship? Upon what Canon will that one rely? Under what authority will come forth the Will to turn away the takers? There is but one authority.....

    Now comes David Merrill in Ministerial Capacity of Our Father in Christ: Speaking now in the hope of restoration in this wonderful year of Jubilee - claiming now in the Providence of God - for I Am one sent forth from the Pre-Existent One...... you get the point.

    Who can turn back a wayward ship? Wind? Spirit? Shall the Four Winds turn direction?


    Is it no wonder that the GOSPEL OF THOMAS was not Canonized? (comments added) - Reference work by Robert Ferrell:

    95) [Jesus said,] If you (Those of the Early Church) have money, (Keys, mysteries; the true wealth) do not lend it at interest, (As a buyer or seller; for your own gain) but give [it] to one (The Elect who are to come--verse 109) from whom you will not get it back.

    109) Jesus said, The Kingdom is like a man (In the Early Church) who had a [hidden] treasure (This spiritual-level revelation) in his field (Religion where the seed was sown across this worldly age) without knowing it. (The Logos was in the world, but it did not know; John1:10) and [after] he died, (He lost sight of the keys, the mystery,and the Scriptures being held back) he left it to his son (The Protestants). The son did not know (about the treasure). He inherited the field (The Scriptures on an earthly level) and sold [it] (and the treasure of knowledge in the process; along with the rejected books). And the one who bought it (The Elect, who believed the word) went plowing (Created good, tilled soil in his heart for the word) and (By doing so) found the treasure (The keys, mysteries, and the upper-level meaning). He began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished. (Using the money given by one who would not get it back--verse 95.)

    ----

    He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. Let us redeem the time in love even to those who are bound in such a system.


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    MJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Let me see if I got this right. It seems that the State of Colorado is a closed loop. So who will administrate and chastise the administration of the State should the administration go rogue. For it seems on one hand they quote all souls are subject to the higher powers, but on the other, it seems there is no power to chastise or give judgment against one who has gone rogue.
    The military authority wielded by the people would have such power and authority.

    Is there anyone who can help a Widows son? Get it? The true ecclesia has been widowed by a husbandman who died to carnality.
    Fallacy. The Christ's lawful assembly is neither bastardy nor the son of a widow nor a widow nor a widower.

    Is it no wonder that the GOSPEL OF THOMAS was not Canonized? (comments added) - Reference work by Robert Ferrell:

    95) [Jesus said,] If you (Those of the Early Church) have money, (Keys, mysteries; the true wealth) do not lend it at interest, (As a buyer or seller; for your own gain) but give [it] to one (The Elect who are to come--verse 109) from whom you will not get it back.
    To say the least, your interpretation begs for sound foundation. "the one from whom you will not it back" would be: the poor. The Elect are hardly poor and could and would easily return a gift with something greater. You are just about slandering the Elect and Christ at the same time.

    109) Jesus said, The Kingdom is like a man (In the Early Church) who had a [hidden] treasure (This spiritual-level revelation) in his field (Religion where the seed was sown across this worldly age) without knowing it. (The Logos was in the world, but it did not know; John1:10) and [after] he died, (He lost sight of the keys, the mystery,and the Scriptures being held back) he left it to his son (The Protestants). The son did not know (about the treasure). He inherited the field (The Scriptures on an earthly level) and sold [it] (and the treasure of knowledge in the process; along with the rejected books). And the one who bought it (The Elect, who believed the word) went plowing (Created good, tilled soil in his heart for the word) and (By doing so) found the treasure (The keys, mysteries, and the upper-level meaning). He began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished. (Using the money given by one who would not get it back--verse 95.)
    The Protestants? First and foremost there is more to the Christ's lawful assembly than that "Roman Catholics vs. Protestant" paradigm--it is hardly all inclusive. Many so-called Protestants were mainly those seeking and asserting an orthodoxy which was still present elsewhere outside of Europe/Thrace and which predated Constantine's conversion. Consider the truth that St. Patrick wasn't a Roman Catholic and Augustine himself admitted to Christ's lawful assembly having been planted among the British Isles long before his arrival. The historical record further shows that the Christ's lawful assembly had been planted in Africa and even India well before Constantine's conversion. The term protestant speaks of a specific group who protested against Rome and has been misapplied generally to describe non-Roman Catholics.

    Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. --Matthew 13:44
    The parables were spoken at a specific time and should be interpreted in the light of who was being spoken to and when.

    Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure [in the Greek the word is 'thesauros' which meant a collection of precious things'; a thesaurus is a book of words that lends to wisdom and capability in refined, honest, wise speech] hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field. --Matthew 13:44
    The treasure in the field would be the saints--God's people! The buyer of the field would be Christ himself rather than some speculator in esoterics seeking some "cool, new info". It was Christ who gave up all that he had to redeem his people which are known of as 'the saints'. Consider Psalms 135:4 "For the LORD hath chosen ... Israel for his peculiar treasure" (Psalms 135:4 in part). Where is there anywhere anything about lending at interest? NOWHERE!

    Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. ---Matthew 5:14 (the saints then and now are being addressed)
    His treasurer is the Ekklesia. The relationship between the Christ's lawful assembly and the house of Judah ought to be wisely and seriously considered. It has been said that 'salvation is of Judah'. Who do people seek out for 'salvation': the saints of the Most High.

    But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever. --Daniel 7:18
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    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Let me see if I got this right. It seems that the State of Colorado is a closed loop. So who will administrate and chastise the administration of the State should the administration go rogue. For it seems on one hand they quote all souls are subject to the higher powers, but on the other, it seems there is no power to chastise or give judgment against one who has gone rogue.

    If a system has gone rogue - how to fix? Who has the power? I wonder - who - indeed. Since the lands are Papal Lands under conquest, it would seem that the Pope would have the power. And since, you have exhausted administrative remedy and found at that level a judge absent a valid oath, it seems the system has gone awry.

    Is there anyone who can help a Widows son? Get it? The true ecclesia has been widowed by a husbandman who died to carnality. And now when one comes forth with a valid claim in class action to clean up this "hog slop" one is met with stagnation in support of a corrupt unmolified purtified mess. It seems a male prostitute has married a whore - that about sums it up.

    Who shall right the ship? Upon what Canon will that one rely? Under what authority will come forth the Will to turn away the takers? There is but one authority.....

    Now comes David Merrill in Ministerial Capacity of Our Father in Christ: Speaking now in the hope of restoration in this wonderful year of Jubilee - claiming now in the Providence of God - for I Am one sent forth from the Pre-Existent One...... you get the point.

    Who can turn back a wayward ship? Wind? Spirit? Shall the Four Winds turn direction?


    Is it no wonder that the GOSPEL OF THOMAS was not Canonized? (comments added) - Reference work by Robert Ferrell:

    95) [Jesus said,] If you (Those of the Early Church) have money, (Keys, mysteries; the true wealth) do not lend it at interest, (As a buyer or seller; for your own gain) but give [it] to one (The Elect who are to come--verse 109) from whom you will not get it back.

    109) Jesus said, The Kingdom is like a man (In the Early Church) who had a [hidden] treasure (This spiritual-level revelation) in his field (Religion where the seed was sown across this worldly age) without knowing it. (The Logos was in the world, but it did not know; John1:10) and [after] he died, (He lost sight of the keys, the mystery,and the Scriptures being held back) he left it to his son (The Protestants). The son did not know (about the treasure). He inherited the field (The Scriptures on an earthly level) and sold [it] (and the treasure of knowledge in the process; along with the rejected books). And the one who bought it (The Elect, who believed the word) went plowing (Created good, tilled soil in his heart for the word) and (By doing so) found the treasure (The keys, mysteries, and the upper-level meaning). He began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished. (Using the money given by one who would not get it back--verse 95.)

    ----

    He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. Let us redeem the time in love even to those who are bound in such a system.


    Shalom,
    MJ


    I have the authority - granted from 1629. - Perpetual inheritance. A good movie is Amistad. The truth prevailed by cellular memory - but they (Africans) called it "calling on ancestors". Anthony HOPKINS as former President John Quincy ADAMS pulls it off, that he taps into this authority. The African asks, "What did you say? What Words did you use?" Answer: "Yours".

    Scene.


    Neuroregenesis: I am no longer stuck on the inside of my face. - Never was... Neither are you. You know that; I can tell by the way you speak of wealth and riches - they can be the same, God and mammon though... Be prosperous my brother. Don't blind yourself to the good life.

    Possibly one should read Doc 6 in the Olympus ordeal, where I delegate authority to the Triumvirate. I hear they are having a great time on Quatloos with my evidence repository. If I looked I am sure all I would see is a bunch of frightened attorney-types acting like terrified children. Nothing to learn there.

    I call them "detonation" of my Mind Bomb. While in fear all they will do is cycle it around and spread the news. You are right Michael Joseph. When a good Jew comes into a town he looks at the house of justice before he can stay. If there is none, he must build it, fix it or move on. Where would I go? I am already doing the same thing with suitors in Canada. I am encouraging the NY Court of International Trade as that poses a threat to collection process as well.

    Interesting how that turns out quite the circle. I come around to that. I am alerting China that the collection process for their (20% national debt) investment is a shambles. Who woulda thunk it! David Merrill!! They crack our national code by exposing toddlers to English but train them as well not to teach their national code to me. (Unless you buy that she cannot speak her native tongue well enough to teach it to a westerner.)

    Sorry if I am rambling. I am ecstatic about the irregularities in the US Court of Federal Claims case. It is such a hodgepodge to keep the house looking like it is in order, with cheap materials and chewing gum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    About any law dictionary will tell us that Louisiana never adopted the Uniform Commercial Code. Still under French common law?


    Thank you for that about Colorado and its Federal Reserve nexus!
    Napoleonic Code [1804--shortly after the Louisiana Purchase treaty]. If I recall correctly, a key component of the Thirty Years War was bringing disparate collections of 'local laws' into a 'uniform system' and that the advent of the Napoleonic Code would serve to bring about just that. Ultimately it may have arisen out of a conflict between Roman Law and French/Local common law and Christian orthodoxy. Interestingly enough, Catholic France allied with Protestants against the Habsburgs. The Thirty Years War is also suggested to have been a time of 'racial genocide' in Europe. The war ended with the Peace of Westphalia. The roots of the war some suggest go back to the conflicts between Lutherans (Protestant) and Catholics (see: Diet of Speyer [1526]). That said:

    The categories of the Napoleonic Code were not drawn from earlier French laws, but instead from Justinian's sixth-century codification of Roman law, the Corpus Juris Civilis and, within it, the Institutes.[2] The Institutes divide law into the law of:

    • persons
    • things
    • actions.



    Similarly, the Napoleonic Code divided law into law of:

    • persons
    • property
    • acquisition of property
    • civil procedure (removed into a separate code in 1806).

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    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    Yes, even those in the "so called" truth movement are scared to find the real. Imagine awakening to find the entire life is a sham. And all words spoken were lies. Then one can know that one does not really know anything like one should. But that too is empowering - in humility. History bores me - but to others it is exciting. Let each man eat and be satisfied.

    I look within my own psyche to examine the transmutation of lead into Gold. The work of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. And yet, who can see that Adam/Eve were not first creature. And now I go to far - I can already perceive the arrows. Is it no wonder why milk is for babes and strong meat for Men.

    Yes, I imagine you strike fear into their hearts - what will they do when their "little boat" is taken away? What will they do when their strength in interpretation is overrun by truth and light? Indeed the true ecclessia has been exiled [John the Elect] and their message is being held back by Christ so that Peter may continue into his old age. But when Peter is old, John shall robe him with the truth that he [Peter] forgot so long ago.

    Something told me the "widows son" would start a fire. I am laughing that it did. It is humorous to me. I suppose some now are already casting stones thinking me to have membership in some lodge. How feeble is the mind which is bent on judging another.

    I know you know what the following means - ride it my brother.

    Son 3:9 King Solomon made himself a chariot of the wood of Lebanon.
    Son 3:10 He made the pillars thereof of silver, the bottom thereof of gold, the covering of it of purple, the midst thereof being paved with love, for the daughters of Jerusalem.
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