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  1. #11
    Adobe Acrobat Professional with the right fonts (typically Helvetica or other commercial fonts) can be used to modify forms. Also "...since becoming a U.S. citizen..." doesnt actually mean you ever became a U.S. citizen, does it?
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    VISA in WSA passport.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    martin earl...

    Have you had any success in getting your new passport scanned and sanitized for sharing?

    I'm eager to learn/know how to accomplish this correctly in the same manner as you describe.

    Hbert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hbert997 View Post
    martin earl...

    Have you had any success in getting your new passport scanned and sanitized for sharing?

    I'm eager to learn/know how to accomplish this correctly in the same manner as you describe.

    Hbert
    Hbert, I am working on it, trying to get clear enough pictures on an Iphone of the papers, I am having trouble blotting out certain items, maybe I can send them email to David and he can post them, my laptop is not the best at such things.

    I have an evidence repository now, so I will file them there as well. I apologize for the delay in getting them, it has been a very busy summer!

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by martin earl View Post
    Hbert, I am working on it, trying to get clear enough pictures on an Iphone of the papers, I am having trouble blotting out certain items, maybe I can send them email to David and he can post them, my laptop is not the best at such things.

    I have an evidence repository now, so I will file them there as well. I apologize for the delay in getting them, it has been a very busy summer!
    That is a good method. Put Sticky Note cutouts over the address and other items you want redacted by the US clerk of court and publish through PACER. Paint is a good program for editing out private information too.

    My travels and future travels are private but I suggest that you go visit a local embassy for your destination and get the visa in advance. You can do so without any obligation to go there so you can collect visas on your passport and when the border guard, say in a stricter nation like Israel see that other nations accept the WSA Passport, that tends to smooth things.





    One thing I hope that they have addressed is Name. Then you go to page 5 and they explain that is Surname. I spoke about this with their attorney. He agreed with me but wanted to keep the convention, which is deceptive. If they would have said Surname on the face of the passport then I would have gladly put VAN PELT there, in all upper case letters. But that is the real crux of the legal trust now, isn't it?

    The WSA wants to trick people into thinking that their family name is their name, or part of their name.
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  6. #16
    That is a trend on various passports that I have been pointing out. Its evidence IMHO that they are wholly pushing for the public side. A prospective remedy is to file a notice explaining the intent. Alternatively or also to make sure the signature is something like:

    John for DOE HENRY JOHN
    Any thumbprint would be over "John" rather than over DOE HENRY JOHN. Or "By: John, as Secured Party/Authorized Representative." Interestingly enough...



    The Chinese passport is rather unique in that it simply states (in mixed case) "Name in full".
    Last edited by allodial; 06-25-11 at 01:55 AM.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

  7. #17
    BTW! Pay close attention to the MRZ..its encoded FIRST LAST too!! Not "LAST FIRST". He claims his name to be Gao Hao not Hao Goa. Quite telling. According to the ICAO standard the first line of the MRZ is:

    1. Document Type such as "P" or "LP" [Field size = 2 characters]
    2. Issuing State code (ISO 3166 Standard). [Field size = 3 characters]
    3. Name [Field size = 39 characters]

    AFAIK the ICAO standard book does not specify whether "last name" or "first name" comes first or not. The field is simply "Name".

    For edification compare to:





    David Merrill how about a place of birth as "Private", "The Americas" or "on North America"?
    Last edited by allodial; 06-25-11 at 02:43 AM.
    All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

  8. #18
    I think you reiterate my point. They should specify Surname like the Iceland Passport you show there.

    WSA specifies on Page 5 that Name means Surname. I am saying WSA should say what they mean on the face of the Passport. Since they say Name I had them put in my name.

    I like this entry for location.

  9. #19
    I find myself in need of renewing my U.S. Passport before very long and am trying wrap my head around all of this. I have had one for decades but only recently entered into serious study. They seem to leave a lot out in "Civics" class. I certainly would like to see what Martin Earl submitted to the passport office.

    A slight digression: I have been redeeming lawful money for less then a year but did manage make my demand and to change my signature card at the bank some months ago. I simply made it clear to the bank worker that I wanted to follow the law and make sure I was redeeming "lawful money" pursuant to 12 USC 411. He said no problem and that has been the case. The tellers see my nice red stamp and signature, dba WORKING K DOG, deposit the lawful money and that has been the end of it for me.

    I know the "tax" issue is like peeling an onion so I'll just say that from what I can tell ONE of the lynch pins is that most folks sign a 1040 form without reading the jurat, which states very clearly that you are signing under "penalties of perjury". I can think of only one class of living souls who could be in that situation - someone who has knowingly taken an oath of office. In contrast, things like a passport application or an application for a "Social Security Number" have a singular "penalty of perjury". I did at one time work for the Federals but I gave that up many years ago. I am now simply a peaceful man. No doubt some in the Federal service may still make the presumption that I still work for them. I correct them as best I can. Presumption is a very big part of the game. Additionally, there is Admiralty....

    The research that David Merrill has done, along with the efforts of the StSC brain trust is greatly appreciated. I hope to be in a position to help as I become better educated and become a "Suitor" myself.

  10. #20
    As I mentioned in the previous post, I would like to renew “my” U.S. Passport for the sole purpose of international travel. As an experiment, I filled out the “renewal” form in the style of Martin Earl, as near as I could tell from his description (e.g. not for id, “0”’s for SSN, R4C most of their notices, etc.) I also included a letter, noticing them, as per the instructions on the particulars as indicated and also noting the fact that an error had been made in my original application many years ago, and asking them to correct my political status to a national of the United States for international travel purposes since I was born in a union State. I also noticed them that the funds associated with this renewal were being paid in redeemed lawful money pursuant to Title 12 U.S.C. 411. I signed in my true name but was also careful to use proper nouns for the names on the passport form. This obviously does not match the NAME on the old passport, which I provided to them as per the instructions.

    Two weeks after my submission, I received a response from the Passport Office that I found educational. They pointed out that the facts of my “birth” appear to entitle me to a U.S. Passport but that due to the 14th Amendment, I was “U.S. citizen”. They also objected to me striking out the “penalty of perjury” words in the “oath” and finally noted that all funds, expect those associated with “overnight delivery” are non refundable. The letter was unsigned and unattributed.

    I responded to the letter with some questions to clarify how the 14th Amendment related to me, and if they were content to maintain inaccurate records. I finished with another request for them to reissue the passport. I have now received yet another unsigned, unattributed letter from “customer service” saying that they will not process the request without a “new, un-altered” “application”. They specifically did not answer any of my questions.

    I am now contemplating my approach going forward. According to their letter I have 90 days but who really knows.

    On one hand I don’t mind exploring a bit more to see what I can learn as others may gain some value in that exercise. On the other hand, exploring may just be a waste of time with the “gatekeeper” who is not trustworthy enough to even provide their name.

    Interestingly, in some of my recent related research I have come across copies of passport applications from the early 1900’s, after the Federal Reserve Act but before the Social Security Act where men and women born in one of the union States were referred to as “a Native and Loyal Citizen of the United States” – NOT U.S. citizens. Even more interestingly, the applications are for “Commercial Travelers” with references to the “Trading with the Enemy Act”. I wonder what the deal is for “non-commercial travelers”. Folks at that time seemed to usually sign their name in proper English (First and Last)

    All thoughts appreciated!

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