Link to video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atzlh6v9Aq4
Link to video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atzlh6v9Aq4
The fellow is interesting - in that he proposes by surrender to the State that you might escape the ravages of the War of Rebellion (fiat). I still don't see it as functional though. This is all the way back to Bean's proposals of specie and being taken at the Taco Bell drivethru, if you recall.
The idea is to assign it its own value and redeem it (the instrument/coupon/remittance) at the Treasury under Remedy. The he throws up his hands and declares; Leave me alone. I like that sort of approach - but it is still post-1861; 1913 law. The Fed Act.
At the 9:00 Mark where I stopped (for now) he alludes to being a transciever, rather than the Strawman Redemptions transmission utility. Be a transciever utility.
I think trust structures only make sense when you understand the parameters and if the lecturer was making sense to the listeners it is only because they knew where he is coming from. Pre-1861 natural law with specie and substance are a tricky thing to acquire without Freeman Standoffs and Government Shutdowns like I say on my other thread.
Regards,
David Merrill.
Last edited by David Merrill; 04-24-11 at 03:26 PM.
Right of self determination and intent though is in line with recent discussion with Darkcrusade about The First Constitutions, the justification of surrender is not for legal construct, but as the signers did making choice to do it all for the glory of God. This will come clearer when you listen to the rest of that video.
I guess you could say that as they do in the UK calling out " God save the Queen! " the founders intent here was " God save the Republic!".
Click here and watch for a moment.
To me, the video is highly subjective interpretation but I hear the same doctrine from the Founder of that same Roman Welfare State.
Paul spent the last five years of his life, living on the Roman dole. He actually invented a welfare system with his treason against Israel - having Roman citizenship papers and running to Felix for refuge when the Sanhedrin convicted and condemned him for it. Paul ran to the Roman Welfare State and that is where he was living in Rome, under a casual house arrest and allowed visitors and mail service through them so that the New Covenant of the Bible exists around that entire doctrine. Paul wrote what is the basis for Christianity from that position - Roman Welfare State.Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
"Surrender everything to the State".
From that position as citizen you then have the choice of elastic currency or fiat that is fully securitized by obligations of the United States - inelastic currency.
You cannot operate outside the scope of the post-1861 fiat. If you try to legally you will get taken every time you present gold or silver at face value. The cashier will pull out a $20 FRN and buy up your precious metal coin in a heartbeat, if he sees what has just happened.Pro 11:1 A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.
In other words that man in the video describes becoming a transceiver utility. A conduit. I call it a conveyance utility below - reflected in that a wire can conduct current in either direction. I doubt I will be picking it up and seeing more of it. I was in that paradigm of Christendom for a long while and am not interested in looking back:
Last edited by David Merrill; 04-24-11 at 07:20 PM.
He is not talking about adhering to some doctrine of Christeandom, this is part of a larger discussion where there is separation, returning back to Ceasar back all his legal entrapments (UCC 1-201[24] - "Money" means a medium of exchange authorized or adopted by a domestic or foreign government and includes a monetary unit of account established by an intergovernmental organization or by agreement between two or more nations. ) and accepting the original inheritance given:Originally Posted by David Merrill
Click here and watch for a moment.
To me, the video is highly subjective interpretation but I hear the same doctrine from the Founder of that same Roman Welfare State.
Paul spent the last five years of his life, living on the Roman dole. He actually invented a welfare system with his treason against Israel - having Roman citizenship papers and running to Felix for refuge when the Sanhedrin convicted and condemned him for it. Paul ran to the Roman Welfare State and that is where he was living in Rome, under a casual house arrest and allowed visitors and mail service through them so that the New Covenant of the Bible exists around that entire doctrine. Paul wrote what is the basis for Christianity from that position - Roman Welfare State.
"Surrender everything to the State".
From that position as citizen you then have the choice of elastic currency or fiat that is fully securitized by obligations of the United States - inelastic currency.
You cannot operate outside the scope of the post-1861 fiat. If you try to legally you will get taken every time you present gold or silver at face value. The cashier will pull out a $20 FRN and buy up your precious metal coin in a heartbeat, if he sees what has just happened.
In other words that man in the video describes becoming a transceiver utility. A conduit. I call it a conveyance utility below - reflected in that a wire can conduct current in either direction. I doubt I will be picking it up and seeing more of it. I was in that paradigm of Christendom for a long while and am not interested in looking back:
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Matthew 5:9 - Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Matthew 5:17 - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Whose law? Hosea 4:6 explains it some:
" seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. "
So we not do it for the Glory of Rome ourselves, but to the glory of God, albeit this is what Citizens might say " God save the Republic ". We as heirs to the living God would more then likely say " God Save the Providence ".
Now, notice the letter of Paul written to the Galatians in chapter four (4), verses one (1) and two (2). “Now I say, that the Heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; but is under TUTORS and governors until the time appointed of the father…”
Later in that same chapter when we accept the inheritance we grow up to be a Son:
Galatians 4:7 - Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Finally the return to nature (natural law) is spelled out for us:
Galatians 4:8 - Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
When we keep ourselves under governors and tutors, we remain in the backsliden form of Israel.
Galatians 4:16 - For Israel slideth back as a backsliding heifer: now the LORD will feed them as a lamb in a large place.
Now our source of Authority comes from the same place as their ultimate authority, so how is it they rule over us, what have we done?
So you can probably see from this interpretation that when one accepts the law under Governors and Tutors, they remain in the backsliden Israel. aka even the suitors clause.
Our local group among others connected say it is time to correct the mistake, return back to natural law, the law of God and the inheritance originally given.
Do you not think it tyranny that they have taken from this gift to create something and they try to sell it back to us which so far they have done successfully?
Last edited by motla68; 04-24-11 at 11:26 PM.
It would be wise not to accept strange fellows in basements with whiteboards when I have much more reliable custodians available....but is under TUTORS and governors until the time appointed of the father…”
Well of course, follow up and due diligence in everything, these things are just breadcrumbs of the actual journey.
Natural Law is classified as private law by the Romans ....
Can you show me where you are getting this information from?
Is not the relationship you have with your creator a private one?
Its called Google Books ...
The book is titled "A Manual of Roman Law" by Daniel Chambier (1893).
Do note on page 2 that Natural Law is classed as Private Law according to the Romans ...
Page 3 reiterates the above with a chart.
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