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    ManOntheLand
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbinville View Post
    Nowadays, given the way that silver prices fluctuate, it would be impossible to come up with a viable silver coinage -- and I'm not even going to get into the deflationary aspects of tying our monetary system to a precious metal.
    Though we do not have a formal gold standard for the dollar, as of April 2011 the Federal Reserve maintained a 17.5 percent partial gold reserve against the base money supply, (a kind of shadow gold standard) according to James Rickards in his book Currency Wars. Historically the Fed maintained about a 40 percent partial gold reserve after abandonment of a formal gold standard.

    Gold and silver were commodities when they were used to formally back the dollar as well. The most significant difference now is that the paper "dollar" is now in far far greater supply because of its elasticity. The value of silver has always and will always fluctuate based on free market forces--which is better than having a government arbitrarily set its value. A silver backed dollar would cause fluctuations in the value of the dollar, due to the fluctuation of silver. But so what? The value of the dollar would remain relatively stable if formally backed (even partially) by a precious metal, a welcome alternative to the cumulative 2253% inflation of the dollar since 1913. Indeed the dollar may have to return to at least partial backing by gold or silver to restore confidence in it as a viable currency in the long run.

    Btw, one of the biggest reasons for fluctuation of silver and gold prices, other than using an elastic paper dollar to measure their value, is the issuance of "paper gold" and "paper silver" which is also done fractionally and over-represents the supply of these commodities. This market manipulation keeps the price of gold and silver artificially low to disguise how depreciated the paper dollar really is.

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    bobbinville, I took the liberty of editing:
    Quote Originally Posted by bobbinville View Post
    I'm not going to go into all of the issues on this post (lest you start to realize who I am); but the reason why your 1900 silver dollar is no longer rationally used to buy just a dollar's worth of goods is that silver, like gold or copper, is essentially a commodity (of course not the reason but I must state things like I'm an expert & to set the stage for what follows). For a long time (too long, how could the banking cartel steal from a populace using real coins? "Oh hi we're from the Federal Gold Reserve here to clip 6% from all your coins."), the price of silver was such that our coins contained no more than their face value of the metal contained in them; but when that price began to rise due to market pressures, it no longer made sense to keep silver in our coins (silver is money; so what I just said was "the price of money was such that your money contained no more than their face value of the money contained in them" ). We (elite) either had to downsize the coins (too obvious) or change their composition; and by far the most practical course of action was to change the composition (I mean c'mon, we can't let you have REAL MONEY alongside our debt-note money, did you even notice we removed the copper from your penny in 1981?). Nowadays, given the way that silver prices fluctuate (thanks to us rigging the COMEX & LBMA), it would be impossible to come up with a viable silver coinage (not really, America has billions of silver coins but we banksters run this country)-- and I'm not even going to get into the deflationary aspects of tying our monetary system to a precious metal (like paying less for goods is bad. Oh, what a masterwerk of disinfo!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Howard View Post
    I previously asked "Where is this expressed in a statute?" Nationwide gave us this over on the other forum. Scroll to June 30.
    YES! They flipped that tax over onto its head and instead of taxing the bank directly for the note issue they now tax anyone who uses them.

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    Fair enough. One thing I would like to see you (or the suitors) elaborate on is ...
    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    .. tired old interpretations of Title 26 - which is not positive law.
    This area of positive law - published in the Federal Register. This isn't entirely clear in my mind.

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    Lawful money

    I am from South Africa one of the countries that has a Reserve Bank - private institution that prints the Reserve Bank notes and loan "money" to banks can someone please tel me how it would work here in SA?
    Robbie on Land SA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Noad View Post
    I am from South Africa one of the countries that has a Reserve Bank - private institution that prints the Reserve Bank notes and loan "money" to banks can someone please tel me how it would work here in SA?
    Robbie on Land SA
    We have a very bright suitor on the brain trust who is from South Africa. I will check into it!

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    Robert, you can make a demand for lawful money, in any country that uses fiat currency. As a man you're entitled to get paid in REAL MONEY, silver and gold coins, NOT in their money SUBSTITUTE. Just because they're bankrupt and have no real money to give you, is not your problem. Just make your demand every time you deposit a check in one of their banks. Here's the special endorsement I use on all my paychecks:

    Special Deposit.
    Demand is made for lawful money,
    pursuant to title 12 USC 411.
    Jaro Smith; dba JARO SMITH

    BTW, legal tender paper 'money', is a money substitute, just like tokens are money substitute in casinos. Which is why they can confiscate them without a court order. With real silver/gold money, they can't do that, unless you're under their corporate jurisdiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaro View Post
    Robert, you can make a demand for lawful money, in any country that uses fiat currency. As a man you're entitled to get paid in REAL MONEY, silver and gold coins, NOT in their money SUBSTITUTE. Just because they're bankrupt and have no real money to give you, is not your problem. Just make your demand every time you deposit a check in one of their banks. Here's the special endorsement I use on all my paychecks:

    Special Deposit.
    Demand is made for lawful money,
    pursuant to title 12 USC 411.
    Jaro Smith; dba JARO SMITH

    BTW, legal tender paper 'money', is a money substitute, just like tokens are money substitute in casinos. Which is why they can confiscate them without a court order. With real silver/gold money, they can't do that, unless you're under their corporate jurisdiction.

    Please examine this video. Do you see what is happening there mathematically? [Notice the US Treasury logo on the doors to the vault.]

    There is approximately the gold backing the US notes estimated to be out in circulation. It is located on the SE Corner of this Golden Rectangle.



    It is interesting to watch the state citizenship applied in California and Texas - both recently properly ratified states at the time of the War of Rebellion (Civil War). But Colorado is a war chest for the current Emergency - Title 12 USC §95 still in effect. Page 1, Page 2 stipulations.

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    At the center of the Golden Rectangle we find METRO - the cities and their suburbs in I Chronicles 6.





    If you think about it this is the mantle Daniel BELSHAZZAR wore as the chieftain of the Babylonian Sorcerers and Astrologers. He even changed the Israelite's alphabet incorporating a new math - ALEPH now has two yods and a vaw = 26 instead of 1. Some would say METRO is the City of Babylon found in the Book of Revelation. Colorado was never quite cured a Territory in 1861 so you might see how it defaults into my perpetual inheritance (Chapter 6).


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    Ministerial Authority 'saving to suitors'. Get it?
    Last edited by David Merrill; 09-02-13 at 07:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Noad View Post
    I am from South Africa one of the countries that has a Reserve Bank - private institution that prints the Reserve Bank notes and loan "money" to banks can someone please tel me how it would work here in SA?
    Robbie on Land SA

    The "S" at the end of BRICS is for South Africa. You might become a bigger figure than Nelson MANDELA by simply stultifying the conditioning in between the ears of a few of your countrymen?


    Think about it.



    P.S. There was talk of reforming BRICS to BRICI - replacing South Africa with Indonesia...

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    That might be better brought to light by people who have read the CtC book.

    I have heard people discuss the faults they would be bringing up in tax court or during a criminal prosecution and the arguments I have heard would cause immediate sanctions if an attorney were to bring them up - just for wasting the court's time.

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