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    Thanks for sharing the info on the Senate records ;o)

    Regarding the BC as Identification and that it is actually a record of an event ... I found this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5EV0rN_JwU
    He talks about the BC being "ID" at about 2:30 into the vid

    *Note: this is just 1 of 8+ videos he has up. While I do not agree with everything he says, the issue of BC being ID/the Foundational Document makes sense to me.
    I still have not seen any evidence that the BC's are 'bonds/shares/etc (esp when folks say they are worth 1Million or 'unlimited' as some "gurus" have stated). If someone here has the evidence please show it to me or inform me of where I can go (internet) to find it.
    April Reigne

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reigne View Post
    Thanks for sharing the info on the Senate records ;o)

    Regarding the BC as Identification and that it is actually a record of an event ... I found this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5EV0rN_JwU
    He talks about the BC being "ID" at about 2:30 into the vid

    *Note: this is just 1 of 8+ videos he has up. While I do not agree with everything he says, the issue of BC being ID/the Foundational Document makes sense to me.
    I still have not seen any evidence that the BC's are 'bonds/shares/etc (esp when folks say they are worth 1Million or 'unlimited' as some "gurus" have stated). If someone here has the evidence please show it to me or inform me of where I can go (internet) to find it.
    You make up the value as you go along. Likely you can pledge as much as you'd like?

    Quote Originally Posted by EZrhythm View Post
    The birth event may occur for each registration but it is the NAME that is the property they want and the NAME that is pledged for their use. The state holds the original pledge document but only as a facsimile since the original wet ink copy isn't required for their use.
    There is no account attached until the SSN is created.
    The BC is not used as an ID, it is certification that the pledge was made.
    The Birth Certificate signifies creation/charter and origin of a legal entity or the like. If one is convinced that one is the person therein named, then perhaps one is so convinced? A State driver license or State ID gives rise to creation of an account or accounts as well (think: State revenue department). The account at the Social Security Administration is distinct and different from the account at the IRS.
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    Colonel Edward Mandell House is attributed with giving a very detailed outline of the plans to be implemented to enslave the American people. He stated, in a private meeting with Woodrow Wilson
    (President 1913 - 1921),

    Very soon, every American will be required to register their biological property
    (that's you and your children) in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency.
    Every American will be forced to register or suffer being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels (property) and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading (Birth Certificate) to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges.
    They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debts to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges.
    This will inevitably reap us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud, which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and we will employ the high office (presidency) of our dummy corporation(USA) to forment this plot against America. -
    Colonel Edward Mandell House

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    For the life of me, I cannot find the source of that quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Anthony View Post
    For the life of me, I cannot find the source of that quote.
    ditto. i think its fabricated.

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    Have researched it and found no realiable sources IMHO. The BC instrument seems to become a 'pledge' instrument when you start pledging and 'running that business' or 'being that person'--as in they try to make you think you are JOHN HENRY DOE (different name) or JOHN H DOE (yet another different name) when you might be Christopher or David or John Henry or....
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    Have researched it and found no realiable sources IMHO. The BC instrument seems to become a 'pledge' instrument when you start pledging and 'running that business' or 'being that person'--as in they try to make you think you are JOHN HENRY DOE (different name) or JOHN H DOE (yet another different name) when you might be Christopher or David or John Henry or....
    Exactly, it is a constructive trust, an offer on the table. The first one to flinch pays the bill, same thing is done with a DL , put it on a dashboard, tell cop if he wants a benefit then take it. Enjoy the reaction later. The DL i have is signed " non-assumpsit " so whomever picks it up after offer is made accepts the liability for it. One has decision to walk away from the name, when you make claims against property someone else owns (Cesti que trust) you suffer the pains and penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Anthony View Post
    For the life of me, I cannot find the source of that quote.
    I haven't been able to find the source either but I did find, Intimate Notes; http://books.google.com/books/about/...d=-3EShjGGNpUC

    Considering CMH's involvement such as helping to choose the board for the FRB, one could certainly consider that is his quote.
    Besides whether those are his actual words or not, it does reference what they followed through to do.

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