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    As far as I can tell, the BC is a registry of an event, most likely a birth event.

    A certificate or extract was given to a holder, not a holder in due course, but a holder.

    The option was never mentioned at first, DO NOT use the BC as identifiation, keep in a safe place.

    So the assumption under the public fool system that the name which was given at birth merged with a family name (surname) was that of the child, and thus used as such.

    Now if they are deriving a NAME or Name from the BC, well we know it is not identification, cannot idenity an individual, but certain a thing.

    If you look in the vital stats act (canadian version):
    http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bcl...79_01#section4

    Name of child

    4 (1) The surname of a child must be registered as follows:

    (a) if only one parent completes the statement under section 3, the surname must be the one chosen by that parent;

    (b) if both parents complete the statement under section 3, the surname must be a surname chosen by both of them;

    (c) if both parents complete the statement under section 3, but do not agree on the child's surname, the surname must be

    (i) the parents' surname, if they have the same surname, or

    (ii) a surname consisting of both parents' surnames hyphenated or combined in alphabetical order, if they have different surnames;

    (d) if a person who is not the child's parent completes the statement under section 3, the surname must be

    (i) the parents' surname, if they have the same surname,

    (ii) a surname consisting of both parents' surnames hyphenated or combined in alphabetical order, if they have different surnames, or

    (iii) if only one parent is known, that parent's surname;

    (e) in accordance with an order of the court under section 4.1 (1).

    (2) Despite subsection (1), a surname must not contain more than 2 surnames hyphenated or combined, and if the mother or father or both have a hyphenated or combined surname, only one of the names in that surname or those surnames must be used.

    (3) For the purpose of subsection (1) (c) (ii) and (d) (ii) and if subsection (2) applies, the one name to be used under subsection (2) is the name that alphabetically precedes the other.

    You can see that they are talking about the registration of a SURNAME:
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/surname

    There seems to be an equity split there (courts of equity), the given names and then SURNAME registered.

    It would seem that liabilities are attached to such a document, and a warning as such was presented with each order of a BC, DO NOT use as Identification, keep in a safe place.

    If not for ID then what is it used for ?

    On most BCs I have seen it states NAME, not first, second or last name, and from Quebec since they have a civil code, the list is slightly different.

    One would have to check the applicable vital stats act for his own State or Province.

    Few other things to mention, yes it most likely is printed on a Canadian Bank note - Their Property
    I have also seen were the BC had mentioned it is copyright of the crown, just like the acts and statutes - Also their property
    I have heard in court on youtube a PRO-Secutor waived the copyright on the BC, and the judge turned to the alledged defendant and said, are you going to waive the copyright also....


    Peace

    Padre
    Last edited by padreilluminato; 07-04-11 at 03:42 AM.

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