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    Here is one source for the comments attributed to Colonel Edward Mandell House

    time the weekly magazine vol 1 #17 June 25,1923

    It comes from a book titled,

    Fruit from a Poisonous Tree‎
    by Melvin Stamper Jd - Law - 2008

    Here's where the quote can be read, so it appears more legitimate than just a webpage. Use the book's internal search function if you can't find it.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=6Tc29qnfjtgC&lpg=PT75&...

    There are three results in that book for Edward Mandell House, besides the quote above. Another says he was the architect of the 16th Amendment, instrumental in creating the Federal Reserve, and yet another says he was agent provocateur of Rothschild.

    But I can't read page 60 the ending of the quote to see if there is a source for the information. Supposed info comes from Wilson private papers according to the Author. fB

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    Thanks fB;


    I will look into that tomorrow. That is the book on the bottom. That magazine article will be there too.


    P.S. This looks like McFADDEN's quote. I can get a shot of that while I am there. I have been saying this though, about Title 12 U.S.C. ยง411 and US Notes for some time now...


    HJR-192 was the supersedeas bond that kept endorsers of private credit in the counterfeiting syndacalism all this time "legally".
    Last edited by David Merrill; 06-22-11 at 11:49 PM.

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    The Birth Certificate as a 'pledge'...

    [1] I witnessed a police officer (duty boss) admit that State-issued birth certificates belong to the State
    [2] Same po-po admitted that the name(s) on the State-issued birth certificate were the State's.

    So I was puzzled since I wasn't the State and and its the State's certificate and name... then how in the heck could I 'have' a birth certificate or even better how could JOHN HENRY DOE be me? In perspective: as much as you immerse yourself into the role then perhaps through that means it becomes a pledge...your volunteering. My own analysis and the reasonably reliable reports coming from 'upper echelon' of a Canadian Provincial Government and my own study of exchequer/treasury bills or the like ..as well as military history gives rise to the B/C being something that a shady banker would never want you to know what it really is.

    "Over here the people are too well informed and there is therefore little opportunity to do anything." (May 1836, James ROTHSCHILD at Paris to Nathan/Nat ROTSCHILD at London. Source: The World of Private Banking, pp 27.)
    [Crosstalk ..definitely....]
    Reiterating-> back to the baby-swap..imagine ma and pa not only taking the fake baby and the real baby home but taking care of both the fake baby and the real baby but primarily neglecting and stupifying the real baby to the extent that they even call the real baby out of its name for the rest of its life...denying the real baby's existence...from cradle to grave. Perhaps a slow homicide and/or suicide for an "Israelite baby" "in Egypt"? From day 1 until age 21 ..when real baby grows up and can walk away but the wager is on the real baby never figuring it out all. The saviour-midwife (a kind of witness or cloud of witnesses) together with ministering angels perhaps saves the baby by revealing to the baby its true nature and nature or at least she does something to maintain a 'division'.

    Its possible that the Edward Mandell House quote might be legit..but consider how much he THOUGHT he knew vs how much he really-really knew. =)

    Further-> if you know the difference between yourself and fake baby--then the EMH quote IMHO should be without auspiciousness in that regard.

    It may be that full comprehension of what has been transpiring requires knowledge of that which is called "municipal trading" and "social credit". That is, it is likely that those working to undermine good society took something that was meant to work for your good and have set out to use it not only against you but for their own enrichment. Consider that the Social Security Administration was based on a system set up by an allegedly-Christian Otto von Bismarck [apparently anti-Catholic and anti-Jesuit..but yet his Social Insurance system was adopted by the USA?!??! Hmmm.].

    That is back in 1913 perhaps there were those in the know who didn't want to see Americans receive the full return of to their own estate so they set out to undermine such. But there were perhaps failsafe mechanisms in place which perhaps might only 'fail' if you got a faulty 'instruction manual'? Thus the banker-influence on public education in the states of America?

    That is...if John Henry can rightly and brightly see the difference between himself and John Henry Doe...he might be on to something big!

    Adolph Hitler had a conversation with his finance minister in which he said things that will make clear where contrary claims come from. This was discovered in the book "The Twentieth Century Journey" - by William Shirer, where he tells of Hitler's question to his finance minister. He said, "We have made the political decision to build up our military in violation of the treaties so, how are we going to finance the buildup?" The finance minister said, "First you will need to use the printing press. Second, we have confiscated enormous amounts of Jewish property, and third, we will block the foreign credit that will enable you to use the credit of your political enemies to build up your military."

    So, what you see there is the formula for a Blocked Grant as the means to derive foreign (PRIVATE) credit from the rolls of residents of Municipalities in the county that is run by the county attorney and the one who prosecutes you on charges therefrom. These BLOCKED Grants are the credit used by the county attorney to purchase Mutual Funds that are the "source" of Revenue used to finance the product of those who bring bills against you. These Mutual Funds are the Derivatives used to finance the IMF and are the "source" the 1099 instructions refer to. So when we get a bill from a merchant or vendor, that bill was financed by the "source" that is measured in International Units that can travel in electronic circuits in return (tax return) to the source. (Source: The Nature of a Remedy)
    Now with respect to the Social Security Administration, does not that organization have pertinence with respect to persons that are disabled or handicapped? Is there such a thing as an economic disability?

    disability

    DISABILITY, n. [from disable.]

    1. Want of competent natural or bodily power, strength or ability; weakness; impotence; as disability arising from infirmity or broken limbs.

    2. Want of competent intellectual power or strength of mind; incapacity; as the disability of a deranged person to reason or to make contracts.

    3. Want of competent means or instruments. [In this sense, inability is generally used.]

    4. Want of legal qualifications; incapacity; as a disability to inherit an estate, when the ancestor has been attainted. [In this sense, it has a plural.]

    Disability differs from inability, in denoting deprivation of ability; whereas inability denotes destitution of ability, either by deprivation or otherwise.




    retirement

    RETI'REMENT, n.

    1. The act of withdrawing from company or from public notice or station.

    2. The state of being withdrawn; as the retirement of the mind from the senses.

    3. Private abode; habitation secluded from much society or from public life.

    Caprea had been the retirement of Augustus.

    Retirement is as necessary to me as it will be welcome.

    4. Private way of life.

    Retirement, rural quiet, friendship, books, progressive virtue and approving heaven.
    ***

    Edward Mandell House is said to have written a book anonymously...
    In 1912, House published anonymously a novel called Philip Dru: Administrator, in which the title character, Dru, leads the democratic western U.S. in a civil war against the plutocratic East, becoming the dictator of America. Dru as dictator imposes a series of reforms which resemble the Bull Moose platform of 1912 and then vanishes. [Lash pp 230-35](Source: Wikipedia)
    The Bull Moose Platform was as follows according to Wikipedia:

    The main work of the convention was the platform, which set forth the new party's appeal to the voters. It included a broad range of social and political reforms advocated by progressives.[6][7]

    In the social sphere the platform called for
    A National Health Service to include all existing government medical agencies.
    Social insurance, to provide for the elderly, the unemployed, and the disabled.
    Limited injunctions in strikes.
    A minimum wage law for women
    An eight hour workday
    A federal securities commission
    Farm relief.
    Workers' compensation for work-related injuries.
    An inheritance tax.
    A Constitutional amendment to allow a Federal income tax.

    The political reforms proposed included
    Women's suffrage.
    Direct election of Senators.
    Primary elections for state and federal nominations.

    The platform also urged states to adopt measures for "direct democracy", including:
    The recall election (citizens may remove an elected official before the end of his term).
    The referendum (citizens may decide on a law by popular vote).
    The initiative (citizens may propose a law by petition and enact it by popular vote).
    Judicial recall (when a court declares a law unconstitutional, the citizens may override that ruling by popular vote).

    However, the main theme of the platform was an attack on the domination of politics by business interests, which allegedly controlled both established parties. The platform asserted that
    To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.[8]

    To that end, the platform called for
    Strict limits and disclosure requirements on political campaign contributions.
    Registration of lobbyists.
    Recording and publication of Congressional committee proceedings.
    Might there be some insight into his mindset in his book that would or would not support the alleged quote? Book-> here.
    Last edited by allodial; 06-23-11 at 05:22 AM.
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    David: Do you have more of this

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    It is difficult to make sense of my post above this morning without considering another BPN carefully.

    Bonded Promissory Note.

    The reason I say difficult is that the SSN is the basis of a tax too. I consider it an insurance policy - but the Supreme Court ruled early in the New Deal that it is a valid income tax. Ergo note that the basis of the BPN is that the Defendant's SSN is spoken as an account number upon which to establish Setoff. Also, that you cannot open a bank account without a Social Security Number.

    To catch on to my point I should share a couple experiences from the brain trust. One suitor mastered R4C with the LoR evidence repository and kept the advances of the IRS seizure on his $1M home for eight years, at bay. It took its toll on his marriage and health - he took to drinking and often would call me up rambling and ranting about having to R4C constant presentments, I am not going to play their game anymore! When he had been drinking he got emotional and alluded to suicide by cop and taking a brave last stand when they came for his home but then he would sober up and continue R4C and using the LoR for his evidence repository.

    As the years went by though, he went on SSI. He was a millionaire but that wealth was tied up in his lifestyle and he wanted to cash his $1K Social Security Checks. He marked his Demand for Lawful Money on the first one and took it to his bank. They refused to cash it for him with the restricted endorsement. It seemed to me that was illegal and he tried and tried. Finally the bank apparently had arranged for him to pay a percentage with the Checks Cashed Here store down the road. He went there, and upon paying the 2% or whatever the clerk took a Sharpie to his Demand - right in front of him and behind the bulletproof Plexiglas. The fellow was heartbroken, quit R4C and lost his home - it was seized and he had to sell it off for $200K and pay that all to the IRS...

    In the 1984 Article in my first video we find citation:

    So, what changed? Two years after H.J.R. 192, Congress passed the Social Security Act, which the Supreme Court upheld as a valid act imposing a valid income tax: 'Charles C. Steward Mach. Co. v, Davis' 301 U.S. 548 (1937).
    Demanding lawful money on a Social Security check puts the bank in a dichotomy. Is the check for a settlement on an SSI insurance claim? Or is it a valid income tax that has formed a socialist system of rewards for the elderly?

    This did not sink in though until a suitor was told to close down his Signature Card Demand account (not the bank closing it, mind you) and he mentioned that this happened as he arranged for his SS checks to be deposited there!


    The manager of the bank has informed me that her legal dept has advised her not to continue the account I opened, even though I told her I would sign another signature card without stipulation for receipt of lawful money (to allow me time to change banks if necessary, after I had further researched the bank's refusal --- for what Cause in other words). That is the bank from which Suitor's Spouse obtained the redeemed $350 for our LoR filing in 2008, so there is even more reason for me to be concerned about the Cause of refusal.

    I responded:

    One way that is usually effective - refuse to close out the account.

    It will come to them creating the illusion they are closing your
    account but then it all depends on you signing the paper. Refuse to if
    you want the bank to continue the account.

    They may close it down anyway but I doubt it.
    It helped to snap into place - from Jaro's website - on the topic of A4V I walk in without reading some 60 Pages and start asking for graphic examples of a successful A4V - especially of the current vocal pundit Neal Lesley who was claiming to keep the electric company paid off by secret Treasury checks. He is quite irked instead of putting his A4V process to a scanner and showing us...

    But what he was saying - whether he has been keeping copies or not - was that the government has taken all the gold and is therefore responsible to pay our bills. Simple. On Page 62 you might get his gist:

    Dude A4V is a promise to pay the debt when they devise a way to pay it with a lawful money like gold and silver everything was paid back then when they developed all of this and the A4V was the remedy, this is basically how it works, Pretend the Treasury is your bank and they issue you credit well when you get you light bill you see it's $250 but you have no money but you have a credit account (a charge account) so you charge it,

    Yes they give a coupon on the end of the electric bill , it's not a Money Order, however your going to use it as so to notify the Treasury you need $250 in credit, as you accept the bill for value...
    This fellow has full confidence that some of the A4V process functions and extended the theory to an ongoing service. That was a bit too much for me to swallow because the Electric Company will shut you off. There is no funded account with the Treasury.

    There is no funded account with the Treasury.

    Therefore it is difficult to follow my recent revelations because I just tied the SSN into this and I am old enough to have evidence that the SSN trust constructs the STRAWMAN when you initiate the contract. I was twelve - you have to look at the date on the bottom:

    http://friends-n-family-research.inf...tification.jpg
    http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ification2.jpg


    That was when I got my first real job. Anymore, pregnant Mom gets a SSN assigned to THE FETUS for the STRAWMAN (Constructive Trust).

    But I am assuring you at the same time that there is no funded bank account to draw from, from either one of these sources - the SSN or the Birth Certificate. It would appear that it took three months to sink in to a federal judge:


    And a year of research for RUSSELL to get cold feet, when he discovered the above for himself:


    The money is out there circulating already!

    Click Here.

    Call it a circulating account if you want. Both RUSSELL and McDOWELL have been generating private credit as Fed banks all their careers. It is out there on their approval as private bankers' fractional lending practices ready to be called in as lawful money on demand. Ergo, under the right conditions; Setoff.



    Regards,

    David Merrill.


    P.S. Be certain you demand setoff for the exact amount of the charges. If you round up even a penny that "change" might be considered fraud - like with Drew Allen RAYNER. - Now the article is unavailable unless you register? Drew Allen wrote his BPN for $175 on $171.50 and is apparently suffering for the $4.50 he presumed "keep the change".
    Last edited by David Merrill; 07-27-11 at 02:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick Burrell View Post
    Here is one source for the comments attributed to Colonel Edward Mandell House

    time the weekly magazine vol 1 #17 June 25,1923

    It comes from a book titled,

    Fruit from a Poisonous Tree‎
    by Melvin Stamper Jd - Law - 2008

    Here's where the quote can be read, so it appears more legitimate than just a webpage. Use the book's internal search function if you can't find it.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=6Tc29qnfjtgC&lpg=PT75&...

    There are three results in that book for Edward Mandell House, besides the quote above. Another says he was the architect of the 16th Amendment, instrumental in creating the Federal Reserve, and yet another says he was agent provocateur of Rothschild.

    But I can't read page 60 the ending of the quote to see if there is a source for the information. Supposed info comes from Wilson private papers according to the Author. fB
    I finally got around to the federal repository. I don't find the quote.
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    The intimate papers of Colonel House arranged as a narrative by Charles Seymour. [Click Here]

    Maybe the quote is in here... If not, the point is that it appears to have come true... we are enslaved... we have been tricked out of birthright just like Esau was by Jacob... payback! Someday we will both realize how vain competition is, and learn to love one another.

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    Mel Stamper's book cites it from Wilson's private papers... [click]

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    At least key points from above:

    (1) Be careful how you hear.
    (2) Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.



    Last edited by allodial; 06-23-11 at 05:05 AM.
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    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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