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    I redeemed $1000 in Lawful Money today!

    I took a check endorsed "Redeemed in Lawful Money, pursuant to Title 12USC411, John Smith; dba JOHN SMITH" to cash/redeem at Bank of America today. The teller kid wanted to throw some FRN's at me right away, so I told him I want lawful money and talk to the supervisor. I gave the sup. copy of 12USC411 and he went to check it out. Later he told me that he was there 20 years and never seen that. I guess this country is FULL of ignorant sheeple, which is why it's in such a trouble now.



    I also told him that I want him to acknowledge that what he's giving me is lawful money. When he came back 15 minutes later, he said that he'll cash it but can't acknowledge anything, regarding the lawful money part. I asked him if he's refusing to redeem in LM, and he said the same thing. So they accepted my 'redeemed in LM' endorsement, but wouldn't acknowledge that what they're giving me is lawful money, and gave me regular FRN's, in lieu of LM.



    But since they're the banking experts, their acceptance of that endorsement is a prima facie evidence that I redeemed that check/FRNs in lawful money. In other words, I got now $1000 worth of Lawful money, which I believe is NON-TAXABLE. I'll just have to send the IRS an affidavit at the end of the year, stating that I redeemed all my payments/checks in lawful money, in order to claim tax exempt status.


    And this is the rubber stamp I'll be getting to stamp all my lawful money with, since carrying around regular FRN's is evidence that you're a law merchant, Matrix slave, since FRN's aren't real money, only obligations (IOU's) of United States. Sovereigns have lawful/real money, corporate slaves use FRN's.



    So anyone now can redeem their FRN's/paychecks in lawful money, and become REAL SOVEREIGN, since sovereigns have real/lawful money. You'll just have to assert that status with claim of right or affidavit declaring your use of lawful money, since lawful money is in PRIVATE (common law), where the corporate gov'ts of the Matrix have NO AUTHORITY!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaro View Post
    I took a check endorsed "Redeemed in Lawful Money, pursuant to Title 12USC411, John Smith; dba JOHN SMITH" to cash/redeem at Bank of America today. The teller kid wanted to throw some FRN's at me right away, so I told him I want lawful money and talk to the supervisor. I gave the sup. copy of 12USC411 and he went to check it out. Later he told me that he was there 20 years and never seen that. I guess this country is FULL of ignorant sheeple, which is why it's in such a trouble now.



    I also told him that I want him to acknowledge that what he's giving me is lawful money. When he came back 15 minutes later, he said that he'll cash it but can't acknowledge anything, regarding the lawful money part. I asked him if he's refusing to redeem in LM, and he said the same thing. So they accepted my 'redeemed in LM' endorsement, but wouldn't acknowledge that what they're giving me is lawful money, and gave me regular FRN's, in lieu of LM.



    But since they're the banking experts, their acceptance of that endorsement is a prima facie evidence that I redeemed that check/FRNs in lawful money. In other words, I got now $1000 worth of Lawful money, which I believe is NON-TAXABLE. I'll just have to send the IRS an affidavit at the end of the year, stating that I redeemed all my payments/checks in lawful money, in order to claim tax exempt status.


    And this is the rubber stamp I'll be getting to stamp all my lawful money with, since carrying around regular FRN's is evidence that you're a law merchant, Matrix slave, since FRN's aren't real money, only obligations (IOU's) of United States. Sovereigns have lawful/real money, corporate slaves use FRN's.



    So anyone now can redeem their FRN's/paychecks in lawful money, and become REAL SOVEREIGN, since sovereigns have real/lawful money. You'll just have to assert that status with claim of right or affidavit declaring your use of lawful money, since lawful money is in PRIVATE (common law), where the corporate gov'ts of the Matrix have NO AUTHORITY!

    Kudos on your entheusiasm Jaro!


    I think you should evaluate the term endorsement. I call it non-endorsement, your demand. You kept a copy of both sides of the paycheck or withdrawal slip? That will suffice instead of an affidavit.

    I think if you contemplate the remedy from elastic currency, much of the sovereign baggage will fall away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Kudos on your entheusiasm Jaro!


    I think you should evaluate the term endorsement. I call it non-endorsement, your demand. You kept a copy of both sides of the paycheck or withdrawal slip? That will suffice instead of an affidavit.

    I think if you contemplate the remedy from elastic currency, much of the sovereign baggage will fall away.
    Yep, I made copies of both sides, but you do need an affidavit, since that is the best form of notifying the tax collectors and such about your non-use of FRN's. Otherwise they'll presume that you do use FRN's and so have tax liabilities. Plus you need an affidavit to show the cops, so they also can't presume that your property they seek to regulate, was acquired using FRN's and so is subject to their statutes.

    You see, whatever you buy with lawful money, you TRULY own, not just possess, as is the case with buying stuff with FRN's. And what you trully own is NOT subject to statutes of the corporate State. The reason they can regulate or ban ownership of certain things, is because people who pay with FRN's only acquire POSSESSION, not OWNERSHIP, since the debt was only discharged, not paid.
    Last edited by Jaro; 07-06-11 at 05:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaro View Post
    Yep, I made copies of both sides, but you do need an affidavit, since that is the best form of notifying the tax collectors and such about your non-use of FRN's. Otherwise they'll presume that you do use FRN's and so have tax liabilities. Plus you need an affidavit to show the cops, so they also can't presume that your property they seek to regulate, was acquired using FRN's and so is subject to their statutes.

    You see, whatever you buy with lawful money, you TRULY own, not just possess, as is the case with buying stuff with FRN's. And what you trully own is NOT subject to statutes of the corporate State. The reason they can regulate or ban ownership of certain things, is because people who pay with FRN's only acquire POSSESSION, not OWNERSHIP, since the debt was only discharged, not paid.

    Look at the money - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    The obligations are against the Secretary and the US Treasurer - look at the signatures. While I agree you have perfected the highest title to the things that you own, you do not have a perfected title because ownership is a benefit you derive from the social structure around you - society.

    The best example of the boundary you defy would be owning your car. Great! If you own your property (lawful money purchase) you can drive your car around on your property with complete immunity. If you take it on the public roadways, you need to be responsible by having a bond ($30K liquid bond) or an insurance policy on the car. It does not have to be on the State's car - like you point out but you need to make right if you hit the child on the bicycle and break his arm to the tune of $12K in hospital bills.

    Here is a very special trust, for the Fraternal Order of Police, benefitting from the Impound Yard (Conflict of Interest) but they had to state the source of their authority in doing so - benefits of State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Look at the money - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    The obligations are against the Secretary and the US Treasurer - look at the signatures. While I agree you have perfected the highest title to the things that you own, you do not have a perfected title because ownership is a benefit you derive from the social structure around you - society.

    The best example of the boundary you defy would be owning your car. Great! If you own your property (lawful money purchase) you can drive your car around on your property with complete immunity. If you take it on the public roadways, you need to be responsible by having a bond ($30K liquid bond) or an insurance policy on the car. It does not have to be on the State's car - like you point out but you need to make right if you hit the child on the bicycle and break his arm to the tune of $12K in hospital bills.

    Here is a very special trust, for the Fraternal Order of Police, benefitting from the Impound Yard (Conflict of Interest) but they had to state the source of their authority in doing so - benefits of State.
    Well David, I think I'm ahead of you on this one. Ownership isn't a benefit, it is an unalienable right. Only legal ownership is a benefit, and that is when you use legal tender FRN's. Lawful money buys REAL, lawful ownership, which is NOT subject to statutes, as legal ownership is. Also, there's no such thing as "you need to be responsible by having a bond ($30K liquid bond) or an insurance policy on the car" under common law. The insurance requirement is STATUTORY, issued by State of XYZ corporation, which only applies to citizens of the corporate Democracy (in public), NOT to Citizens of the Republic (in private/common law).

    You see we've been in bankruptcy since 1933, where no one has any real money so they're not entitled to real laws like Hale v Henkel. We're in commerce where law merchant rules and laws of the Republic don't apply. But when you've got lawful money, then you're no longer insolvent, subject to corporate statutes, but protected by the laws of the Republic, because you've got REAL ASSETS, which puts you outside of this bankrupt corporate Matrix. Why do you think lawful money isn't subject to taxation? Because it's outside of corporate State's jurisdiction, and so is EVERYTHING it buys.

    BTW, the fringed flags in courtrooms signify the law of the executive, i.e. the king's law, which only applies to king's subjects who use HIS 'money', the FRN's. Those who have REAL/lawful money, aren't subjects to king's law (statutes), they're protected by the laws of the Republic, like Hale v Henkel.

    BTW, the last line here should tell you that under common law, there's no such thing as car insurace requirement:


    Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43 at 47 (1906)
    "The individual may stand upon his constitutional rights as a citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no such duty [to submit his books and papers for an examination] to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the law of the land [Common Law] long antecedent to the organization of the State, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his rights are a refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under a warrant of the law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights."
    Last edited by Jaro; 07-07-11 at 02:30 AM.

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    At the end of the day, civil infrastructure gives you the benefit of exclusive usage. The trustee owns your stuff.

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    Public roads belong to the People. They use them BY RIGHT since they're part-owners. It's not a government-given benefit. There's a ton of USSC quotes about that. It's just that those laws of the Republic don't apply to most people today, since they're participating in the bankruptcy, and as such aren't protected by those laws, but are subject to corporate statutes, since they've got no real money.

    It's still true that 'whoever has the gold makes the rules', and having LM is like having gold; i.e. you make the rules regarding your property.
    Last edited by Jaro; 07-07-11 at 06:11 AM.

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    Exclusive control of property depends on responsibility to your fellow man. If you show competence and the ability to make whole any injury, then I agree with you; I agree with your illusion that you can own things. The example of course being that you own both your car and the roadways - ergo you may take your car about freely among the other people in society.

    If you have a pile of cash in your glove box to show the police officer - specifically $30K - to hand over to somebody who feels you injured them, you might have a chance of surviving the roadside trial. More likely though, you will be robbed pretty quickly if you advertise that kind of cash and likely you will even find a statute that an honest cop will be compelled to at least detain you on - just for having that kind of cash handy.

    So the State provides for you not to have an insurance policy if you prefer that. You can post a bond with the State, through your bank or the State treasury. You have your $30K setting in escrow so to speak. And you show that bond to the police officer - self-insurance. To show compentency you take the driving tests and get a license. Sign the card with your true name:

    Officer, I am only showing you that card for competency purposes. I am not showing it to you for identification purposes.

    If you show responsibility, you show your authority - like you say. So I am not going to argue with you. Have a listen to the audio snippet attached. Somalia has been promoting a prominent political policy called piracy for several years now. Irresponsible - to just take by force. It has become an industry. But listen as justice takes its course...

    The point to the torture - of hearing this morning's news about people in Somalia, is also that they own all sorts of stuff, they just have no usage because they are dying. There is no governmental infrastructure to fight for their rights of ownership. Ergo, the ability to own is a benefit of society; to have any time to utilize what you own for your own benefit anyway. Without the benefit of society, you simply own the weapons you use to protect your arsenal.



    Regards,

    David Merrill.
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    BTW, the fringed flags in courtrooms signify the law of the executive, i.e. the king's law, which only applies to king's subjects who use HIS 'money', the FRN's. Those who have REAL/lawful money, aren't subjects to king's law (statutes), they're protected by the laws of the Republic, like Hale v Henkel.

    “The Good Faith and Credit for the US Dollar - Gone!”

    Are we under the maritime law of contracts and not common law?

    Does this relate to why the U.S. flags in official buildings fly the gold tassel and fringe, indicating a state of martial law in a perpetual national emergency?

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    The Congressional Record is public property, Traficant had his eyes open, which is probably why he went to prison.

    James Traficant's U.S. Bankruptcy Speech

    The Bankruptcy of The United States

    United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303
    Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

    "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner’s report that will lead to our demise.

    It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

    The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers.

    With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America.

    This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part: "The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States."
    Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be "money" in America.

    Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises, and are not "money."

    A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States government, not "money."

    The federal United States government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money, gold and silver coin.

    It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any "money."

    Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life.

    Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of the country?

    Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

    Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.
    There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a debt.

    To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system.

    You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance.

    No contract in Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable consideration." Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice because they have so much wealth already.

    Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

    The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock Trust" in 1873.

    The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]

    The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law.

    The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

    Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principle.

    Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)
    "Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title.

    The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

    In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt.

    They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

    Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property.

    Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank.

    We the people have exchanged one master for another.

    This has been going on for over eighty years without the "informed knowledge" of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough. Now it’s easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

    Why don’t more people own their properties outright?

    Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid? Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

    We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life.

    Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth.

    The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

    America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision and human rights.

    This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order!

    Wake up America! Take back your Country."

    The Bankruptcy of The United States - James Traficant:


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