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    Vacant Offices become the Norm in Colorado?

    I sent off a request to the Secretary of State the other day and found that the DA for Colorado Springs and the area (Fourth Judicial District) is running his office vacant.

    Dan MAY's Oath of Office.

    Form of Oath.Form of Affirmation.

    Here is the Oath as required by the Secretary of State.

    Proper form for swearing any oath is to plainly state the authority witnessing the oath. If you have scruples about that, or do not believe in God, then you can affirm instead. This new hybrid between is not constitutional nor does it conform to statute. Dan MAY's defect is plainly not a temporary one. The case cited; People v. Scott only applies to temporary defects.




    Regards,

    David Merrill.

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    This Oath problem is systemic. As I’ve related elsewhere , the Orange County Citizens Grand Jury was making efforts to bring this to light in the mid 1990’s .

    The Free Enterprise Society picked up that ball and has quite a bit to say about it. No personal recommendation for them here , just some FYI on the situation in California and their long standing project on the subject . Or should I say long sleeping ? Hempfling and crew don’t seem to make much progress beyond selling memberships and “Education” tapes .

    The page concludes with a transcription of Nathaniel Hawthorne’s The Gray Champion .

    Some snips from :

    Oath of Office Project

    Currently not one official in the State of California has taken the Constitutionally prescribed oath of office. This means, that there is no person occupying offices in our legislature, judiciary, or executive departments. Hence, we have people pretending to occupy our government offices who are not government officials. These people are passing laws, enforcing laws, and allegedly meting out justice.

    We are currently attempting to gather the research and documents needed to petition the United States Government for Redress of Grievance and have them act under Article IV, Section Four of the United States Constitution and restore our Constitutional Republic. Of course, we must decide do we petition the Courts or the Congress. We have decided that petitioning the United States Congress should be our first attempt at correcting this situation. But we need help!! We must accumulate thousands or documents going back to 1953 to prove out our case. This is no small task.
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    Article IV, Section 4 of the United States Constitution reads as follows: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

    The language is unmistakable. Every State within the Union of the United States is guaranteed a republican form of government. And, this guarantee is extended to each State by the government of the United States. In fact, every territory which applied for statehood was obligated to form a republican form of government and operate thereas to the satisfaction of the United States Government, for a period of time, prior to being admitted as a State of the Union.

    (We will address later in this work how the courts have viewed the political/justiciable doctrines which arose as a result of Article IV Section 4.) In fact, if one is inclined to read the Act of Admission for California one would find that when admitting California to the Union, Congress "found [California] to be republican in its form of government". This could easily be identified by Congress upon examination of the California Constitution which established a republican form of government, in addition to the actual governmental practices in which the State of California engaged.

    Article IV, Section 4 is further bolstered by the "Supremacy Clause" contained in Article VI Clause 2 which states "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; . . . . shall be the supreme Law of the Land."

    With these two Articles in place it cannot be doubted that every State of the Union is guaranteed a republican form of government, as opposed to any other type of government; that such a guarantee is the Supreme Law of the Land and cannot be contravened by any other law any State may decide to make; and, it is the duty of the United States government to ensure that this guarantee is not displaced by some more expedient form of government. And, California adopted and ratified a Constitution consistent with the United State’s Constitution, wherein it was required to provide for a republican form of government.
    Not to be construed as Legal Advice, nor a recommended Course of Action. I will stand corrected.

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    In Colorado though the attorney general obviously backs his office (finally) with a fungible fidelity bond:




    John SUTHERS is principal to Dan MAY. Thinking this through though, it may be that Dan and John are setting things up so that the long-illegal DA operations are guarded by color of de facto law.

    Thanks for the post Trust Guy!

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    You found one !! Most interesting David .

    Germane to this problem is the Socialist bent of politicians and extended influence of the Socialist Bar Association for some many decades .

    Socialist Party of America Releases The Names of 70 Democrat Members Of Congress Who Are Members Of Their Caucus

    [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

    Background on DSA from the Wikipedia thingie .
    Not to be construed as Legal Advice, nor a recommended Course of Action. I will stand corrected.

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    I don't think I found it as much as I caused it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    I sent off a request to the Secretary of State the other day and found that the DA for Colorado Springs and the area (Fourth Judicial District) is running his office vacant.

    Dan MAY's Oath of Office.

    Form of Oath.Form of Affirmation.

    Here is the Oath as required by the Secretary of State.

    Proper form for swearing any oath is to plainly state the authority witnessing the oath. If you have scruples about that, or do not believe in God, then you can affirm instead. This new hybrid between is not constitutional nor does it conform to statute. Dan MAY's defect is plainly not a temporary one. The case cited; People v. Scott only applies to temporary defects.




    Regards,

    David Merrill.
    Perhaps because the offices of the republic are vacant of people?
    This reminds me of resident vs. domicile of a State.

    Shoonra was unable (or unwilling) to answer my simple question, "If a person is a resident, where is their domicile?".

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    I have always thought the domicile is in the state - the organic state. And the residence is in the district - the state district is a fictional overlay with the same surveyed boundaries.

    Dr. Dale LIVINGSTON, Esquire confirmed that the Judiciary Act of 1789 formed the Districts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    I have always thought the domicile is in the state - the organic state. And the residence is in the district - the state district is a fictional overlay with the same surveyed boundaries.
    Sounds as good as any.
    I will definitely do more research on this.

    The district is probably primarily commercial.

    It will be fun claiming domicile of the State as opposed to residency. There is an affidavit, I will need to shoot down first....

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    The district overlays appear fundamental to Gov. claims of territorial authority . When I started striking "Residence / Address" with stating "Seated" I sure got some confused looks , but no refusals of forms involved .
    Not to be construed as Legal Advice, nor a recommended Course of Action. I will stand corrected.

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