UnderStanding

[Bear Eagle]

Greetings, I come in Peace and Honor.

(This thread will cover many subjects pertaining to words and definitions and what understanding them means, and where such perceptions came from to begin with. All verbiage herein is my own beliefs and opinions on said subjects using my own Reason and Logic)

What is Known? I cannot define that for you, but only for me.

(1).
I exist as a Conscious Entity of a dualistic nature. I am only aware of the dualistic nature because of my Conscious Entity. My Conscious Entity is interacting with, and inhabiting for use, a Physical Body that comes from the clay, mud, and Minerals of the Earth defined as (in my case) Man. The dualistic nature of this existence is presented by the body afforded to the Conscious Entity for use by the Man on and in Earth. The reason of the term “in Earth” is to acknowledge that my Conscious Entity is inside the Man somewhere.

(2).
There is a physical construct that is forming matter, and allowing matter to be formed, that my Conscious Entity can use and interact with. The only inhibition to this interaction and use thereof is limited only to the imaginations, thoughts, and proceedings emanating forth from my Conscious Entity. I can empirically observe there are other Conscious Entities doing same. The variables of use are limitless.

(3).
Since my Conscious Entity is empirically observing what I believe is true as stated in (1) and (2), I can also presume that what I am observing came from someone else, as I do not believe (1) and (2) created itself. If (1) and (2) never have created itself then I also presume and believe that there a creator had to have to.

That is all I can prove by Personal Knowledge. For some 1 through 3 will present problems, and that is ok, for I need not force any other to agree with me, for the only agreement I make with others is Peace and Honor between, and present NO CLAIM against any Individual Conscious Entities Believes and opinions.

I would however like to revisit the Title of this thread now. Understand. Under Stand. Under Standing. Why does every Official ask us “if we understand”?

Lets look at the “Compound Word” “Under Stand”.

Under should be self evident. Stand however?

STAND:“–verb (used without object) ((((not in numerical order))))
1. (of a person) to be in an upright position on the feet.
2. 2. to rise to one's feet (often followed by up )
3. to take a position or place as indicated: to stand aside.
4. to face or encounter
5. to endure or undergo without harm or damage or without giving way
6. to endure or tolerate
–noun
7. the act of standing; *an assuming of or a remaining in an upright position.
8. a determined policy, position, attitude, etc., taken or maintained
9. the place in which a person or thing stands

Why would anyone choose as Conscious entities to be under such definitions? Do you understand? I sure hope not. I hope you choose to keep your Standing.

What is the reason for their system anyway? What is its purpose? Who System is it to begin with?

It is well known that from every corner of Earth, Mans Law has come about. Whether it be Natural Law, Common Law, Constitutional Law, Admiralty Law, Tribal Law, or any other type of projection of Conscious will that is projected as a Claim against another Conscious Entity while in use on Earth. All of these have always been and forever be invalid, fraudulent, and non existent because these instruments of claim have no real authority.

Authority and Standing:

(1) (2) (3) are Claims “I” make. That there is a Creator as the end result of said observations. I can only Claim this as a True Belief for myself.

My Belief as a Conscious Entity:

That Conscious Entities inhabiting fleshly bodies of Men and Women have Believed in a Creator since the beginning of Men and Women in fleshly bodies upon the Earth. Their believes have varied in metaphor, symbolism and interpretation. A common trait in these varying believes is good and evil. Duality.

I am most familiar with the Bible, as that is the text I have studied the most, though I am Generally familiar with others. Because of this I will only use the Bible for my reasoning as to stay on point. I am also not religious, as I am a seeker of Truth.

It can be read in Genesis the Creator created the Estate, and that Estate IS the Realm of Creation. The seen and unseen of Everything in the Universe. The Creator is Trust. The Trustee is the Son, called Jesus. The Beneficiaries are Man and Woman. The Inheritance of Men and Women is the Earth. Maybe that is why it was said “with faith the size of a Mustard grain you can move mountain”.
Faith in whom? The Trust and Trustee. Faith is what is paid for use. And then one can mine gold in the mountains and streams which is moving a mountain. One can also move our bodies around freely, for we are part of the Earth that a Mountain is made of(I think mountain was used as example of the magnitude of use implied) The price is Faith. Standing.

This is the only true system of Authority, all others are imitations, proxies, and idols of worship. Anything other is the worship of the Estate, in which the Trust Created. Its Mozart going and bowing down to his Piano, and giving it power unto itself, when in fact it is the Conscious Entity inside that gave the Piano power. The Conscious Entity is the copy of the Creator, not the instruments Men produce. The Creator made us in the Creators image.

That is why many teachings it seems espouse becoming like the Creator. Becoming Godlike. “Like” is the key word. Not the Creator itself. I find it very interesting that the reply to Moses of “the name” was “I am that I am”. Names are just idols and false worship. They are instruments that have no inherent power or Authority. The Creator was explaining to Moses what he was. And that was him name. “I am” is self identifying. Everything is what is being implied. “That I am” implies action. Creation. Productivity.

So what then was the meaning of the Garden of Eden, and what was taking place there?I believe it was the Estate of Being. Man Women of Conscious Entity Standing before the Creator Naked in their intentions and Heart of Being. There was no need for any instruments being used because the Contract was being fulfilled and there was no breach.

The Contract:

Genesis 1:28-31
28And God blessed them. And God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth." 29And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. 30And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

The Tree of the Knowledge of “Good and Bad” was the only Idol in the Garden that was designated by the Creator to not even be looked at, let alone touched. It was an idol because an idol is something that looks like the Creator, or represented the Creator, but is not the creator. Should not Adam and Eve gone to the Creator for Knowledge instead of some tree?

When they did, they lost Standing with the Trust. With the Creator. A breach occurred, and inheritance was lost. The Trustee was then needed to remedy the breach. So where did the breach start from and whom?

It seems that another Entity in Contract with the Creator was bringing Claims “against” the Trust by stating that the Creator was not disclosing information. The Beneficiaries on Earth were told that within the Fruits and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Bad was what the Creator was hiding from Man and Woman. What was really being presented as CLAIM was that the Creator was not enough, and that a system of the Law of Good and Bad needed to be created, for the Creator was holding back such Knowledge because it was a benefit to all the Entities created by the Creator. I think that it is very interesting that as soon as the fruit was eaten, they became 'aware' of their Nakedness and were ashamed. Ashamed of presenting their true intentions, as being Naked in front of all to see. That is what the Knowledge of Good and Bad brought to them. (Reminds me of People being afraid or ashamed, today, to speak their truth and testimony because of what others might think) Being Naked. Heart and Mind exposed.

We can shed further light upon this with the instituting of the Kings. The Kings judged between Right and Wrong. Just like Adam and Eve, Israeli too demanded the Knowledge of Good and Bad to be dictated to them by some other instrument other than the Creator.

[Bear Eagle]

“Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even to this day; with which they have forsaken Me and served other gods; so they are doing to you also.” 1st Samuel 8.

So again we see the rejection of the Creator, and the supplication of Law placed upon them by their own will, testimony and Word.

Since the original events of Man and Woman desiring the Law placed upon them, whatever those events; if any, really were, “Man has dominated Man to his injury” by the use of the created instrument “Law of Good and Bad”, which stem from Morals and Philosophy. We all have a claim to use such instruments, but only as long as we are using the Spirit to commune with the Creator in doing so. Appointing Kings, Judges, Courts, etc, is the idol. The fake Knowledge. The fake trust. The fake Trustee. The fake inheritance. The fake beneficiary. These instruments are always to tell others how to think, act, perform, Be, Live, Love, Hate, Exist, Consciously animating the moving of Mountains, etc, forever and ever.

List of Invalid entities:

1. Trust- There is much confusion about the True Trust. There can only be one True trust. The Creator. Every Man made trust is not the True Trust. Every Conscious Entities Trust is not the True Trust. Only the “I am that I am” is True Trust.
2. Trustee- The Firstborn out of all Creation is the True Trustee. There had to have been a First by the mere fact we are all here. The Word. The Instrument used by the “I am that I am” to have do “I am that I am” biddings. All other Conscious Entities Trusteeship are invalid, and have no True Standing before the Creator and True Trust.
3. Estate- There is nothing of the Estate of the Creator True Trust that is owned by any other Couscous Entity other than the Creator True Trust. The “I am that I am”. Everything is “I am that I am”, how can any of the Conscious Entities that are Beneficiaries claim they own the Estate of the Creator True Trust.
4. Beneficiaries- There are many instruments in this category that are invalid being used today. The only true Beneficiary are the Conscious Entities that exist; both seen and unseen in the Universe, because of the Creator True Trust, and his Will and Testimony, the “That I am” of the “Iam that I am”.
5. Inheritance- Inheritances depend on the Conscious Entities. The Contract stated by Creator True Trust for Conscious Entities residing in the Temple of the Body Inherit the Earth, and all living things upon Earth. We are free to live, animate, and move Mountains on the Earth. The only Valid Claim brought against such action is that the Conscious Entities in Man and Woman have Faith.

Believing that Knowledge of Good and Bad, Judges, Courts, Mans Laws is eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Bad , and turning our back away from the Creator True Trust, “selling our inheritance” as Esau did.

Jesus said this about the matter as Trustee:

Luke 12:13-15 ESV
“Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” But he said to him, “Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?” And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”

The only Rightful Judge of any part of the Estate, or the Conscious Entities therein is Creator True Trust. I am that I am. Any other Judgments, Claims or proceedings are Trespass upon the Creator True Trust Realm.

I also find it interesting that Jesus mentions possessions. When we as Conscious Entities and Beneficiaries of the Inheritance from the Creator True Trust, possess, or take possession of any instrument that is being used as an instrument of Trespass against the Creator True Trust, the True Estate, then we ourselves have fallen into temptation and have picked the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

How many of us use the False Trust, and its instruments that have been created by Man as cheep imitations of trespass upon the Creator True Trust. “It is not what a Man eats that defiles him, but what he utters out of his mouth.” Our of the Mouth the true intentions of the heart speak. What are we doing when we use and possess their verbiage, and instruments of such to try to gain access to the True Trust as Beneficiaries from Men and Women? Even the True Trustee Himself said ““Man, who made me a judge or arbitrator over you?”

"Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.” Matthew 4:8

So it seems that the Kingdoms of the World and their splendor the Devil had been building up from the beginning when he established the first Claim against the Creator True Trust with the Law of Knowledge of Good and Evil claiming as “his own”. He made the Claim that the Creator True Trust was invalid and that the Creator was not fully disclosing. Hence the breach in trust. Jesus does not answer the Claim, question it, or entertain the thought. He as Trustee puts Faith in the True Trust. He retains Standing before the Creator I am that I am. I also find it interesting that Satan Claims ownership of all the Kingdoms of the Earth by the offer “give” and the price is Worship for offer and Contract by “bowing down”. Or Understanding. The price for being a Beneficiary of the Creator True Trust is Faith. Faith can be defined as the “believe that is not based on proof”.

All of these years later and the only thing that we have learned from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Bad, is that we know nothing at all, not even when we were born, where, or what time, or who our Mother and Father are in flesh are. That Tree was just another tree. The true test there in the Garden was Faith. Faith in the Creator True Trust.

So how does this all relate to the situations we find ourselves in on a daily bases in relation to the invalid, dishonorable, and corrupt system that we bow to by interacting with as if it is valid, authentic, and has any type of Authority to bring any type of claim against us at all, and have no authority to even utter words of such to begin with.

Forgiveness. It has nothing to do with us. The Trespass is upon the Creator True Trust, not our Trust, because we dont have one. Nor can we have a valid Trust of any type as Beneficiaries of Inheritance. Our fight is not with flesh, but with Principalities and Power in High places. I have not truly worked out how can I be in the World but not a part of it. Because while in it, if not a part of it, they bring claim constantly. Having to continue involving myself in answering their claim “in some way or another” is not acceptable for myself once I am conscious aware of the implications. I do have a solution and remedy of logic for myself however, but have yet to articulate it fully inside myself. But it does center around intentions and motives of dealing with them to begin with. “The worker are few” comes to mind. What is the workers metaphor talking about?

I will offer my Believes and opinions about this more another time.

I am not “Under Standing”.

[David Merrill]

It is wonderful to have such ponderings here. I am in a couse called A Course in Miracles that meditates on these things every page.

My thoughts on studying what might seem frivolous to some is that we have a public trust around elastic currency.

IN GOD WE TRUST

A big part of that trust is that the officials exercising authority upon our understanding shall always, upon any indictment grant us the right to understand the nature and cause of the accusation against us. This is an authority we grant by being in social compact.

These days it is difficult to acquire this kind of bonding necessary for the officials to actually be holding this authority in trust. After nearly twenty years of my extensive efforts, and suitors' operating in the brain trust we find John William SUTHERS actually looking like a bank note expressing his trust operation in Denver:

However, his underling is feigning to be bonded by having a Traveler's Insurance policy. We all know how insurance companies are though; when Dan MAY tries to collect they will suddenly discover that his oath of office (bond) is faulty and of course that is not what they cover. At least I feel justified in understanding law that way, since I have seen a police officer render that legal opinion for the Insurance Industry.

I think it is likely that a minor traffic charge will be dropped if you continually persist that, I do not understand. My own experience however tells me that for felony charges one gets shredded through psychological evaluation to find out if you are fit for trial.

But I love developing common mental models through discussion. I just wish I had a bit more time to pick through your posts and give them the reply they deserve.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[Bear Eagle]

Hello David,

I dont know if it is language itself that presents the problem or something else. But the use of the word "we" in that phrase "in god we trust" presents a problem for me. It is all inclusive, and is still attached to a instrument of Man that is the instrument of Trust. An idol if you will. Im still looking for Authority from the Creator to issue such an instrument in dealing with the Creators Trust, as there is no need for a intermediary for access to inheritance as Beneficiary. Some type of instrument is always used as access to the Inheritance, whether it be fiat, sea shells, or anything else "from" the inheritance itself. That is illogical to me to use the inheritance as the means of access to the inheritance, when we already have access to the inheritance by the very fact our Conscious Entities are residing inside of it, the clay and mud body of Men and Women. Paper Money of no inherit value makes little sense to me, if it provides me with nothing directly in exchange for my sweat and labor. I still need to drive to the store instead of eating it. I still need to buy a water pump with it, instead of drinking it. I still need to purchase a bed, instead of lying down in it, though I suppose with glue or tape, or string, dollars could be made into a blanket.

As it is all inclusive, it does not allow anyone to disengage from it either if that is their will. Man and Woman are bound to it by necessity of circumstances beyond their control mostly, and thus it is unfair as Trespass upon the Beneficiary, the Estate, and True Trust.

Dont know, still playing around with some of these ideas. Thanks for your interest thus far.

[Anthony Joseph]

Hello David,

I dont know if it is language itself that presents the problem or something else. But the use of the word "we" in that phrase "in god we trust" presents a problem for me. It is all inclusive, and is still attached to a instrument of Man that is the instrument of Trust. An idol if you will. Im still looking for Authority from the Creator to issue such an instrument in dealing with the Creators Trust, as there is no need for a intermediary for access to inheritance as Beneficiary. Some type of instrument is always used as access to the Inheritance, whether it be fiat, sea shells, or anything else "from" the inheritance itself. That is illogical to me to use the inheritance as the means of access to the inheritance, when we already have access to the inheritance by the very fact our Conscious Entities are residing inside of it, the clay and mud body of Men and Women. Paper Money of no inherit value makes little sense to me, if it provides me with nothing directly in exchange for my sweat and labor. I still need to drive to the store instead of eating it. I still need to buy a water pump with it, instead of drinking it. I still need to purchase a bed, instead of lying down in it, though I suppose with glue or tape, or string, dollars could be made into a blanket.

As it is all inclusive, it does not allow anyone to disengage from it either if that is their will. Man and Woman are bound to it by necessity of circumstances beyond their control mostly, and thus it is unfair as Trespass upon the Beneficiary, the Estate, and True Trust.

Dont know, still playing around with some of these ideas. Thanks for your interest thus far.

I think the IN GOD WE TRUST verbiage is meant to deceive the masses of people that it is all inclusive and the opportunity to join, be persuaded and "understand" is provided and nurtured. The fact is that the "we" refers to the men who created, and decided to continue on with, "debt-backed" fiat currency and the false balances inherent in it. This is because they either didn't have an answer/solution or they didn't want an answer/solution and prayed to God on their man-made paper instrument that He will someday restore proper balances and correct the evil that men do. They knew the abomination and repugnance of such a creation and saw an opportunity to "capitalize" on it at the expense of most others who are intentionally kept ignorant of the system.

It is true that there is only one true Trust and one Trustee regarding God's creation. However, due to the lack of trust and responsibility of most men and women, evidenced in all of history, a system of governance among men must be instituted to account for such. I believe that the governments of men are placed into that position by God Himself as "2nd level trustees" over His Estate on Earth here and now awaiting the true sons and daughters to claim their inheritance as such. I believe they have dual roles in that they will be a king over you or serve you as the king you are depending upon the manner and truth in which you conduct yourself. This appointed authority must be in congruence with His law, however, in order to maintain that ordainment. The corruption and evil of man however makes it a difficult challenge to be recognized in that regard and it is then, when all truthful declaration, honorable action and administrative avenues have been exhausted, that we rely upon the "1st Level" trust to manifest the truth to fruition.

This is all we can do.

[Bear Eagle]

I think the IN GOD WE TRUST verbiage is meant to deceive the masses of people that it is all inclusive and the opportunity to join, be persuaded and "understand" is provided and nurtured. The fact is that the "we" refers to the men who created, and decided to continue on with, "debt-backed" fiat currency and the false balances inherent in it. This is because they either didn't have an answer/solution or they didn't want an answer/solution and prayed to God on their man-made paper instrument that He will someday restore proper balances and correct the evil that men do. They knew the abomination and repugnance of such a creation and saw an opportunity to "capitalize" on it at the expense of most others who are intentionally kept ignorant of the system.


It is true that there is only one true Trust and one Trustee regarding God's creation. However, due to the lack of trust and responsibility of most men and women, evidenced in all of history, a system of governance among men must be instituted to account for such. I believe that the governments of men are placed into that position by God Himself as "2nd level trustees" over His Estate on Earth here and now awaiting the true sons and daughters to claim their inheritance as such. I believe they have dual roles in that they will be a king over you or serve you as the king you are depending upon the manner and truth in which you conduct yourself. This appointed authority must be in congruence with His law, however, in order to maintain that ordainment. The corruption and evil of man however makes it a difficult challenge to be recognized in that regard and it is then, when all truthful declaration, honorable action and administrative avenues have been exhausted, that we rely upon the "1st Level" trust to manifest the truth to fruition.

This is all we can do.

Indeed. That is another interesting Word. "In Deed". I remember when People used to Contract Private Business dealings with Word and Hand Shake. Your conclusion is much along the same lines of my premise of Forgiveness. Is it though then the responsibility of Men and Women to turn back their faces to the Creator? Again, why should anyone reclaim that which they never have disowned? How can a Conscious Truth and Honorable decision be made of disowning to begin with if through fraud and deception the entire issue was withheld and not disclosed?

Yes, the Creator did place Governments before Men and Women, but only at the request of Men and Women, and told them they would pay a heavy price and loose freedoms because of it. He did not want to do it, but did at the request of the Beneficiaries of the Inheritance. That Contract, Convenient of Law is no longer in operation it appears. Has not the Convenient been fulfilled? The price paid, by the True Trustee? The Law fulfilled. Was not he the "Law"? The Word? So what then the significance of his presence here on Earth? If he in fact died as a Living Man, what did he die for? The first Adam? Why was he called "Son of Man"? We see this same metaphor in the Writings and Deeds of most Spiritual Ideology. Including Indigenous Knowledge systems as well. There is a pattern of a source Metaphor.

"If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Free from what? What did he teach? Was it not Love and Forgiveness?

'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. [Matthew 22:37-40 NIV]

The Law and the Prophets "hangs" on these two commandments. That interesting. Old English it is "dependeth". "Lex pendant". Dependeth is Third-person singular simple present indicative form of depend.

“Ye have counsales, lawis, and men of reputatioun that have establisshed all thingis, as ye suppose: Bot none of all these can maik any religioun acceptable unto God, whiche onelie dependeth upon his awin will, revealled to man in his most sacred word.”

The Works of John Knox, Vol. 1 (of 6)

John is getting close here. He is getting close to the Religion of Law that the Pharisees established, that Satan established by Claiming Knowledge of Good and Bad, thereby putting himself in a position to Judge Good and Bad. The Creator revealed to Man his Will by his most Sacred Word. The True Trustee. The Creator values the Word, as he does words spoken. For a Word is an Oath. It is the only Oath individual Men and Women can give. Anything else is not an Oath.

“And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.” Mark 11:25 (NIV) “But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also.” Luke 6:27-29 (NIV) “Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.” Luke 6:36 (NIV) “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.” Luke 6:37 (NIV)

Elsewhere, it is said, "Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. Matthew 18:21-22 (NKJV)

Jesus asked for God's forgiveness of those who crucified him. "And Jesus said, 'Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.'" Luke 23: 34 (ESV)

If we love and forgive even our Enemies what Claim can any Man bring before and to us?

We cannot, for we are the Beneficiaries of Inheritance.

Can a Beneficiary of Inheritance make a Judgment or Claim on another Beneficiary of Inheritance?

There is a solution for remedy, but only by insuring that the instruments used by Men and Women, and their Oaths are True and Honorable. Which is impossible, for the Nature of Men and Women are not Honorable and True because of the turning away from the Creator and his Living Will as Trust. The events all can observe in the World are proof of this. Are they Honorable? Truthful? Just?

Therefore the only remedy is a turning of face again to the Creator and his True Living Will. What is his True Living Will?

It was the original Contract with Man and Woman. Which does not include Knowledge of Good and Bad to be accessible to Men and Women to use. For when Men and Women use this Knowledge they then dominate each other to their injury. By forcing their own ideals, subjective perceptions, morals, dogma, and ways of being onto someone else thus dominating them.

We as Couscous Entities are able to access the Creator True Trust through the Trustee, and need no other party to Know Good from Bad. I presume that Love, and Forgiveness is a concept comprehendable to most every Man and Woman alive. It is an individual choice and decision of them, thought they have comprehension of the meanings of said concepts. It is not my responsibility for anyone else choosing NOT to follow their own Conscious decision to do Good.

What is Good? Nothing that brings harm to any other Couscous Entity is Good. There is no need to argue the finer points of such. Its very simple actually. If one causes harm to another both in Spirit or Body, then I have caused harm. Who can decide what constitutes "harm done"? Only the Couscous Entity performing. If one listens to their Conscious, it will Testify against itself.

Laws are made for those who choose not to follow their Conscious. Those who not care what their Conscious Testify against them. For these, the Laws of Robbery, Murder, Theft, and Trespass apply. Anything beyond these "Common Laws" applied to Men and Women without Conscious is Unjust, and not Honorable. For even the Creator makes the Sun shine upon the Wicked and the Righteous.

[Bear Eagle]

Romans 2:

1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

28 A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

I think this is all relevant since all Law in existence 'today' comes from the Bible, specifically Ecclesiastics. What was the "Law" being talked about by Jesus, and Paul(the Lawyer) in Romans? It was the Mosaic Law, as well as Ecclesiastical Law. The True Trustee fulfilled the Law, and covered the breach in and of the Trust.

Love and Forgiveness IS THE LAW.

[Bear Eagle]

It is wonderful to have such ponderings here. I am in a couse called A Course in Miracles that meditates on these things every page.

My thoughts on studying what might seem frivolous to some is that we have a public trust around elastic currency.

IN GOD WE TRUST

A big part of that trust is that the officials exercising authority upon our understanding shall always, upon any indictment grant us the right to understand the nature and cause of the accusation against us. This is an authority we grant by being in social compact.

These days it is difficult to acquire this kind of bonding necessary for the officials to actually be holding this authority in trust. After nearly twenty years of my extensive efforts, and suitors' operating in the brain trust we find John William SUTHERS actually looking like a bank note expressing his trust operation in Denver:

However, his underling is feigning to be bonded by having a Traveler's Insurance policy. We all know how insurance companies are though; when Dan MAY tries to collect they will suddenly discover that his oath of office (bond) is faulty and of course that is not what they cover. At least I feel justified in understanding law that way, since I have seen a police officer render that legal opinion for the Insurance Industry.

I think it is likely that a minor traffic charge will be dropped if you continually persist that, I do not understand. My own experience however tells me that for felony charges one gets shredded through psychological evaluation to find out if you are fit for trial.

But I love developing common mental models through discussion. I just wish I had a bit more time to pick through your posts and give them the reply they deserve.



Regards,

David Merrill.

I have never reviewed the "Social Pact" as a formal contractual document, which I scratched the surface of when speaking of Mans Law arising from all over the Earth. The theories are far to subjective for me to agree to under Contract. And it appears to further divide the inheritance between brothers and sisters until there is nothing left of the inheritance. I am not party with it. I dont recognize paper, ink, verbiage, seals, and symbols as being any valid instrument of access to the True Trust, for my Consciousness already inhabits the inheritance. Why would I seek remedy for something I already posses?

The term understanding is not to do with the capacity to understand a concept, but for the possible applications of the Compound Word as it might be used in Law. I already have Standing at Law, because I acknowledge my Standing before the Creator, and need no other Judgment upon me. If I am under; as in "below" Standing, then I no longer have Standing. If I dont have Standing in the Court of Men how Can I have Standing in the Court of the Creator? As above so below. As below so above.

[David Merrill]

You are welcome. My point is that the bail bond, should one be arrested and charged is not in seashells. It is in fiat instruments that bear earmarkings of the same trust.

IN GOD WE TRUST

In addition though, I was making the point that I hope to have more time for strictly philosophical discussion soon. For now though, I just feel that I must apply more practical use of each keystroke.

[Bear Eagle]

I agree, and yes, this is a purely Philosophical entry and thought form. But then again, is it?

Have Peace David, and I hope you will have more time in the future to delve further with me.