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    Filing Question

    Hello all,

    David I remember you from Goldismoney.info I've been following you since 2007. Now that I've got more of a grasp of how the process works I would like to put it into motion.

    The only thing I still don't understand is the filing. Do I still file each year, but just placing zero income while attaching receipts proof that I am demanding lawful money?

    I am planning on making it a clean break and demanding lawful money at the beginning of next year. File my usual way get my return and be done with paying into a system I do not believe in and feel as though it enslaves me and my fellow man.
    Last edited by Ares; 09-28-11 at 09:35 PM.

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    Anyone?

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    Technically you do not get any kind of exemption from the Income Tax until you start making your demand for lawful money. Starting it on January 1 is a rather neat way to keep track though. You will not file for a refund of your withholdings though, not until the deadline April 15, 2013.

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    David,

    Thanks, I realize that. Why I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary until January 1st just to make it easier to keep track of when I "broke away". I'll be filing for this year obviously to get my return for 2011. But for 2012 I won't be filing if I understand it correctly because I won't be having any withholdings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    David,

    Thanks, I realize that. Why I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary until January 1st just to make it easier to keep track of when I "broke away". I'll be filing for this year obviously to get my return for 2011. But for 2012 I won't be filing if I understand it correctly because I won't be having any withholdings.
    If you are self-employed or 1099 (contractor) then you should consider the risk you run of not filing at all is that the IRS agent may make an assessment on information available from your boss (client(s)).

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    Rebut any information that could have possibly been communicated to the IRS starting with one's name.
    NOW let's see who is obligated to submit a return or any other hoop jumping instruction, rule, regulation, code, etc.

    ***Notify IRS or any desired agency [UNITED STATES ____, STATE OF ____, COUNTY OF ____, CITY OF ____] of change of address:

    AFFIDAVIT ANDNOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS

    Notice to principal is notice to agent. Notice to agent is notice to principal.

    I, [First Middle] am the title holder of the entity FIRST MIDDLE LAST.
    Any writing or record for the entity, [FIRST MIDDLE LAST] shall be signed and properly addressed to me exactly Sas stated below. Send to:
    C/O First-Middle
    132 Main Street
    City, State [No ZIP]
    Non-Domestic without the U.S.

    Failure to do so shall void any and all communication or writing and shall be deemed as me having not received and not having knowledge of such communication, writing or record.

    All Rights Reserved; [First Middle] [Great Seal or fingerprint over a portion of signature]

    [Jurat]
    State of ________________________
    County of ______________________ } ss.
    Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on on this __________________ day of _____________________, 20_____, by __________________________, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person(s) who appeared before me.
    . ___________________________________
    (seal) Signature




    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Under YOUR oath (jurat), have this statement witnessed by two or more or have notarized.
    Record in public at the county, in a newspaper for 30 days or at http://www.nationalrepublicregistry.com/

    Witnesses may create their own Great Seal or use thumbprint.

    Receive certified copies and send to any desired agency.

    Optional address:
    First Middle
    C/O General Post [Not General Delivery. No PO box]
    Susanville Station / Station #5 / Main Office [Use post office name or number, no street address]
    City, State [No ZIP]
    Non-Domestic without the U.S.

    This optional address may be utilized to notify agencies while continuing to receive mail at another address.

    Reference for words highlighted as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code;
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm#s1-202
    Some words are defined and some are contained in the definitions.
    Last edited by EZrhythm; 10-26-11 at 08:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZrhythm View Post
    Rebut any information that could have possibly been communicated to the IRS starting with one's name.
    NOW let's see who is obligated to submit a return or any other hoop jumping instruction, rule, regulation, code, etc.

    ***Notify IRS or any desired agency [UNITED STATES ____, STATE OF ____, COUNTY OF ____, CITY OF ____] of change of address:

    AFFIDAVIT ANDNOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS

    Notice to principal is notice to agent. Notice to agent is notice to principal.

    I, [First Middle] am the title holder of the entity FIRST MIDDLE LAST.
    Any writing or record for the entity, [FIRST MIDDLE LAST] shall be signed and properly addressed to me exactly Sas stated below. Send to:
    C/O First-Middle
    132 Main Street
    City, State [No ZIP]
    Non-Domestic without the U.S.

    Failure to do so shall void any and all communication or writing and shall be deemed as me having not received and not having knowledge of such communication, writing or record.

    All Rights Reserved; [First Middle] [Great Seal or fingerprint over a portion of signature]

    [Jurat]
    State of ________________________
    County of ______________________ } ss.
    Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on on this __________________ day of _____________________, 20_____, by __________________________, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person(s) who appeared before me.
    . ___________________________________
    (seal) Signature




    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Under YOUR oath (jurat), have this statement witnessed by two or more or have notarized.
    Record in public at the county, in a newspaper for 30 days or at http://www.nationalrepublicregistry.com/

    Witnesses may create their own Great Seal or use thumbprint.

    Receive certified copies and send to any desired agency.

    Optional address:
    First Middle
    C/O General Post [Not General Delivery. No PO box]
    Susanville Station / Station #5 / Main Office [Use post office name or number, no street address]
    City, State [No ZIP]
    Non-Domestic without the U.S.

    This optional address may be utilized to notify agencies while continuing to receive mail at another address.

    Reference for words highlighted as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code;
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm#s1-202
    Some words are defined and some are contained in the definitions.
    Hey EZ, this is just opinion based on my own results;

    Once the status of your named Estate is changed it is not really a matter of coming against you. In the past you have been reported taking federal reserve notes and then when it is found that you have not returned the receipts then the named Estate is taxed until you correct the mistake. It is not a matter of what they did, it is a matter of what we did.
    Now that I have corrected this mistake by returning old receipts and now claiming the lawful money things go much smoother now, I can fill out some forms now without signing them, turn them in and things get done anyway. As you can see on posts from other recent thread have even taken it a step further now and corrected the elections for the named estate, rather then be burdened now of manifestations the weight had been lifted even further off me shoulders since we embarked on the old Coresource Solution group, that is gone now but the research between the like minded continues.
    Feel free to PM me through the group or email me.

    Peace and blessings upon you brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZrhythm View Post
    Rebut any information that could have possibly been communicated to the IRS starting with one's name.
    NOW let's see who is obligated to submit a return or any other hoop jumping instruction, rule, regulation, code, etc.

    ***Notify IRS or any desired agency [UNITED STATES ____, STATE OF ____, COUNTY OF ____, CITY OF ____] of change of address:

    AFFIDAVIT ANDNOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS

    Notice to principal is notice to agent. Notice to agent is notice to principal.

    I, [First Middle] am the title holder of the entity FIRST MIDDLE LAST.
    Any writing or record for the entity, [FIRST MIDDLE LAST] shall be signed and properly addressed to me exactly Sas stated below. Send to:
    C/O First-Middle
    132 Main Street
    City, State [No ZIP]
    Non-Domestic without the U.S.

    Failure to do so shall void any and all communication or writing and shall be deemed as me having not received and not having knowledge of such communication, writing or record.

    All Rights Reserved; [First Middle] [Great Seal or fingerprint over a portion of signature]

    [Jurat]
    State of ________________________
    County of ______________________ } ss.
    Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on on this __________________ day of _____________________, 20_____, by __________________________, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person(s) who appeared before me.
    . ___________________________________
    (seal) Signature




    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Under YOUR oath (jurat), have this statement witnessed by two or more or have notarized.
    Record in public at the county, in a newspaper for 30 days or at http://www.nationalrepublicregistry.com/

    Witnesses may create their own Great Seal or use thumbprint.

    Receive certified copies and send to any desired agency.

    Optional address:
    First Middle
    C/O General Post [Not General Delivery. No PO box]
    Susanville Station / Station #5 / Main Office [Use post office name or number, no street address]
    City, State [No ZIP]
    Non-Domestic without the U.S.

    This optional address may be utilized to notify agencies while continuing to receive mail at another address.

    Reference for words highlighted as defined in the Uniform Commercial Code;
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm#s1-202
    Some words are defined and some are contained in the definitions.
    Hi, and question:

    The [FIRST LAST] in brackets -- is this to be bracketed in the actual letter, like brackets around zip codes? I noticed one example is not bracketed. Not sure if this is significant.

    Is it beneficial to send to a local IRS office, or is it more beneficial to send it to a certain one? Thank you!

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    That must be my improper use of brackets in the example. No the brackets are not used on the executed document.

    For those who use brackets around ZIP codes, I don't recommend it. Just leave the ZIP off all together since it is not required anyway.

    For a change of address notice I would send it to where one would otherwise be sending a 1040 form if they were subject to such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Technically you do not get any kind of exemption from the Income Tax until you start making your demand for lawful money. Starting it on January 1 is a rather neat way to keep track though. You will not file for a refund of your withholdings though, not until the deadline April 15, 2013.
    Hello David,

    Question: Do you see any advantage for those who have automatic salary deposits to checking accounts to write a check payable to CASH, cashing said check then re-depositing the money with "redeemed for lawful money 12 U.S.C. 411" stamped on the bills, after copying said bills to establish a lawful money trail in an attempt to establish competent record keeping for legal tender converted to lawful money?


    Thanks in advance for your opinion, David.

    Bentley

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