The Informer, James Montgomery, Dr. Frank Wiswall, and more !!

[ManOntheLand]

All of that admiralty stuff is fine and dandy, and it truly is in effect today. However that is all about commercial vessels. Where did YOU become a commercial vessel? Oh, you mean you weren't given express notice of that, so you could figure out how to navigate thru the laws of same? Uh oh. After all, you're just a man or woman. What the "f" would you be doing following any of the laws of the sea, while you're on land?

The Informer has a great article entitled Fiction of Law (if I recall correctly). Also see the Supreme Court in The Huntress, where they reveal that revenue cases have always been in the admiralty. Check out the book "Are You Lost at C?" for more detail on admiralty.

[shikamaru]

The Informer has a great article entitled Fiction of Law (if I recall correctly). Also see the Supreme Court in The Huntress, where they reveal that revenue cases have always been in the admiralty. Check out the book "Are You Lost at C?" for more detail on admiralty.

Not always.

Revenue cases were handled in England through the Courts of the Exchequer.

Revenue cases in the colonies were initially in courts at law, but the king could never sustain any convictions.
These revenue cases were moved to admiralty to remove the jury as an impediment. The chancellors of admiralty were given a cut of all cases they made convictions in too.

[ManOntheLand]

Thanks for the correction, shikamaru. You have encapsulated the inherent injustice of admiralty jurisdiction on land: removing the jury. How and why revenue cases came to be in the admiralty is a very important point, I believe.

I was trying to convey (albeit imprecisely) that revenue cases have been considered to be in the admiralty in America since adoption of the Constitution for the USA. According to Are you Lost At C? the Supreme Court said in The Huntress: "in this country, revenue causes had so long been the subject of Admiralty cognizance, that congress considered them as civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction..."

I hope this circumstance can be made clear to all those in the tax honesty community complaining that Americans' rights are ignored in federal court regarding income tax.

[David Merrill]

That will probably prepare you for this.

[shikamaru]

Thanks for the correction, shikamaru. You have encapsulated the inherent injustice of admiralty jurisdiction on land: removing the jury. How and why revenue cases came to be in the admiralty is a very important point, I believe.

I was trying to convey (albeit imprecisely) that revenue cases have been considered to be in the admiralty in America since adoption of the Constitution for the USA. According to Are you Lost At C? the Supreme Court said in The Huntress: "in this country, revenue causes had so long been the subject of Admiralty cognizance, that congress considered them as civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction..."

I hope this circumstance can be made clear to all those in the tax honesty community complaining that Americans' rights are ignored in federal court regarding income tax.

Not only that, civil cases concerning taxes are conducted in Article I (legislative) courts.

Criminal cases are conducted in Article III courts.

Only Article III courts are judicial courts.
Article I courts are something else entirely .....