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  1. #11
    Negotiable means to trade-up. It is illegal fiduciary responsibility to trade-down. We always trade up in our negotiations - the essence of win-win.

    Therefore Fed notes are negotiable because there is a higher form of currency allegedly available to trade-up to - US notes. In form, since US notes cannot be used as a reserve currency and there is a set amount of them in circulation (non-elastic) they are a higher form of currency. US notes are non-negotiable. The only thing you can trade-up for is energy - material goods and services.

    Since January 21, 1971 FRNs function for US notes. Therefore due to Treasury policy, FRNs are actually performing as US notes too. So if you have endorsed private credit the FRNs in your pocket are FRNs but if you have not, then the FRNs in your pocket are US notes. By renaming them US currency notes Congress has adjusted the face value to be the same.

    In the section, the words “United States currency notes” are substituted for “United States notes” for clarity and consistency in the revised title.

    In my opinion Congress has defrauded itself, if that is possible.

    My suggestion, at least for clerk of court transactions - which means every bill in your wallet if you are a court of competent jurisdiction is to buy one of these stamps.


  2. #12

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    David,

    In some other broadcast you stated that while at one time you once believed it was superfluous to stamp the backside of FRN with the "redeemed" verbiage, you no longer hold that belief - rather there is some sigificance to doing so.

    May you please share with us why the change your position in this matter? I'm curious, and also I like the idea of stamping the backside of FRNs.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Anthony View Post
    David,

    In some other broadcast you stated that while at one time you once believed it was superfluous to stamp the backside of FRN with the "redeemed" verbiage, you no longer hold that belief - rather there is some sigificance to doing so.

    May you please share with us why the change your position in this matter? I'm curious, and also I like the idea of stamping the backside of FRNs.
    By the time that it reaches your hand cash - it functions as (if) lawful money. Either you signed for it, signed a demand for it (non-endorsement) or somebody handed it to you and we can presume that they did. When I spouted that it is superfluous that was because I was only doing it to share the word about remedy. I like that people often get curious enough to Google Cornell Law and plug in the Title and Section! Right there, when somebody does that for the first time they probably owe me big time for that lesson alone. I enjoy that.



    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    Negotiable means to trade-up. It is illegal fiduciary responsibility to trade-down. We always trade up in our negotiations - the essence of win-win.

    Therefore Fed notes are negotiable because there is a higher form of currency allegedly available to trade-up to - US notes. In form, since US notes cannot be used as a reserve currency and there is a set amount of them in circulation (non-elastic) they are a higher form of currency. US notes are non-negotiable. The only thing you can trade-up for is energy - material goods and services.

    Since January 21, 1971 FRNs function for US notes. Therefore due to Treasury policy, FRNs are actually performing as US notes too. So if you have endorsed private credit the FRNs in your pocket are FRNs but if you have not, then the FRNs in your pocket are US notes. By renaming them US currency notes Congress has adjusted the face value to be the same.




    In my opinion Congress has defrauded itself, if that is possible.

    My suggestion, at least for clerk of court transactions - which means every bill in your wallet if you are a court of competent jurisdiction is to buy one of these stamps.

    I made a highlight in red of my recent point. In the above described transaction, you probably do not want to use your evidence repository for every time (we all hope it is often) that somebody hands you pay - in cash. - Whether by paycheck or not - when you receive the cash.

    The UPS Store owner wanted me to sign for a letter when I had specified No Signature Required. I told her I was not signing anything while I tore it open and pulled out cash to give her $5 as agreed. She was a bit perplexed and I suppose it came off rude. I was hoping that the lesson - that signatures are of value would override the rudeness. But this led me to be concerned the other day, that I might get into a confrontation. She insisted but I looked it over and decided she deserved a receipt.

    There was however the possibility that the letter would have ended up In Evidence if I was to press charges for Grand Larceny - here in Colorado the threshold between petty and grand is $400. That is to say, if I would have been pressed into calling the police because she was keeping my property from me. Therefore I instructed the party sending me to include the demand for lawful money at the originating transaction:




    My point really, in response to your inquiry is that I am the clerk unless I am using a clerk - aka the evidence repository. So I function as the clerk for my transaction. I had the evidence there is no tax liability on the money included with the evidence package - should it have gone that way. As it went, things are good because I have no problem with the owner having a signed receipt for delivery. However I still don't know about all the UPS terms on the back. That is why I hardly ever sign for things like that - Who is going to stop and read a bunch of legaleze under those conditions?



    Regards,

    David Merrill.



    P.S. In hindsight - next time I will strike through any agreement to terms on the back. Down there at the bottom:


    If the owner objects I should request an oral reading, nice and slow so I can understand them clearly... I will have a lot of questions.
    Last edited by David Merrill; 04-12-11 at 05:03 PM.

  4. #14
    I take it that being your own clerk does not suffice in explaining the impact in operations of law, of putting the Redeemed Lawful Money stamp on the actual bills?

    I will work on a different approach. I am currently awaiting a default from China. Maybe after a day or two more...

    Then I will have something quite graphic for you to consider.

  5. #15
    Just curious, are you using a foreign alphabet for signature?

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereignty View Post
    Just curious, are you using a foreign alphabet for signature?
    Yes. That is paleo-Hebrew from the time of David. Sumarian Ostraca.

  7. #17
    Goldi
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    "Therefore Fed notes are negotiable because there is a higher form of currency allegedly available to trade-up to" ...then why the stamp using the term non-negotiable federal reserve notes as a stamp for the back of a check? Why not non-redeemable in it's place. That would be a more correct statement.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldi View Post
    "Therefore Fed notes are negotiable because there is a higher form of currency allegedly available to trade-up to" ...then why the stamp using the term non-negotiable federal reserve notes as a stamp for the back of a check? Why not non-redeemable in it's place. That would be a more correct statement.
    Yes. That works too.

    There are several variations proving out the definitions for FRNs and US notes by Congress, supported by the courts. We even find variations Down Under effective:


    They shall be redeemed in lawful money by demand...

    That you express your demand to redeem the cash transaction in lawful money, that is the execution of the operation in law. It seems a saddening distraction to pick apart the Demand so. It tells me that people are trying to appease attorneys about the definitions of the form around Federal Reserve Notes, rather than to understand the verbiage from Congress.

    Just make your Demand clear. Then sign your Demand instead of signing Endorsement.

    Regards,

    David Merrill.



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    Last edited by David Merrill; 04-16-11 at 11:58 AM.

  9. #19
    I have been looking into stamping the FRN to make it a US note. In another thread Martin Earl brought the concept of the president side of the note being split into 2 sides the FRN side and the US note side. I am looking at a 10 dollar note from 2006. In the US note side there is a very interesting thing going on, inside the box it says THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and We The People. It also has a serial number (minus the black 3 digit extension on the FRN side) and the number 10 is in green and is the only number not encumbered by the box. lets not forget it is signed by the Secretary of the Treasury (does he not EXPATRIATE to take that position? I will keep looking). I would think the signers are setting it up so one is WITHIN and one WITHOUT the UNITED STATES.

    I would like to add my view that the FRN actual represents 3 trusts on 2 sides. The back of the note (who says its the back anyway I think it is really the front!) appears to be our trust with GOD. The whole side of the note says THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and IN GOD WE TRUST. Please note the font of the THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on this side it is light green with a dark shadow around it. On the other side it is opposite (Black type with clear shadow). The back side is the only side that allows the 10 out of the box.

    SO I have to agree with DM to stamp the backside which to me makes it OUR frontside and shows who we have trust in (GOD).

    I will say this is all very confusing as I am sure it is meant to be.
    Be Well
    MC

  10. #20
    Thank you for parsing that out carefully.

    It brings to my mind how when I published my Lien the chief judge filed a new oath of office without the scope of God. Then I requested the transcript where I charged him and the prosecutor $10M each, and he prescribed the correct trust on account for settlement. I will need to read your post and examine my FRN and US Note carefully but we have some interesting things to post about here.


    Regards,

    David Merrill.




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