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    jesse james
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneFree View Post
    Plus one for you, fishnet! A good disinfo agent will often mix-in a good amount of truth, just as our bank-auditor-cpa-turned-tax-attorney does here. Does it matter to the SSA/IRS how the employee signs the W4? Probably not. Employees Forms W4 sat in a cabinet never seen by anyone but company owner & the bookkeeper. Company did send employee earning amounts to the SSA which likely DID create the presumption of statutory wages. Company made the decision to withhold, to create presumption, to help enslave them. Based on what? The opinions of CPA/attorneys like jesse james.

    But, the worker still has the right to be heard. Were the reported earnings really "wages?" Did the worker endorse private credit or redeem lawful money?

    And yes, I recall the case of the employer who paid employees in gold. What you neglected to mention: the gold was purchased with unredeemed debt notes of the Federal Reserve. Therefore, US Treasury carried first lien. Company owner didn't have highest title to the gold.
    Hahahahaha..............now that is laughable! First lein?.......wheres that mentioned in 411? Or is this a perfect example of one of your fish stories where you always have a better story.

    What dont you get about presumption? Oh thats right.............presumption is a hendrickson CtC thingy!
    If the employer is reporting "wages" then by logic there is no presumption about it. The earnings are bonified "wages" that the worker signed to earn.
    The ctc thesis is about being presumed a "government employee"............another invention of Pete Hendrickson. Read the law and maybe a few court cases Libra!
    The courts repeatedly say that 3401(c) "employee" is expansive to include the private sector.
    Title 26 chapter 24 section 3401(a) didnt include Social Security 3121(a) "wages" until the 1939 code. And if you read chapter 21 3121(a) "wages" it, clear as the sky is blue, excludes a majority of government workers from participating in Social Security. Do you understand what that means?
    What it means is that Hendrickson is a fool and cant comprehend a darn thing.
    To sum up 3121(a) "wages" only short term government workers are allowed to participate in Social Security such as enlisted soldiers. Career government workers are not permitted to participate. They have their own seperate government retirement program.
    You damn well know congress and the likes do not participate in Social Security. How many emails have you read that if Congress was to have the same benefits as the common people through Social Security they would change SS over night?
    Yeah we all seen the emails so why cant you put 2 and 2 together to come up with 4 instead of 22?
    So you tell us here in this forum why Hendrickson keeps insisting that 3401(c) "employee" is to mean only "government employees" when you see Social Security 3121(a) "wages" (that most career government employees are not permitted to participate) in amongst the definition of 3401(a) "wages" that is supposedly only earned by government employees.
    Doesnt make a whole lot of sense does it...............no logic there is there?
    The very statutes hendrickson relies on in his book says Hendrickson is a damn fool who cannot read nor comprehend correctly.
    Any wonder the fool is in the grey bar hotel?

    Without any proof I'm who you say I am doesn't make you look as cool as you think you are libra.
    You are failing miserable here. Getting kicked around pretty good arent you!
    Last edited by jesse james; 11-20-11 at 05:31 AM.

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