I have duplicated a couple posts from the
What Happened to SJC Thread:
My intent behind copying this discussion under this thread title is basically that we need to move these things forward only under the context of evidence repository. If you do not properly document your record forming in the "exclusive original cognizance" of the United States, the IRS and other attorneys (reviewing any Refusals for Cause) will spot your incompetence, not being a court of record and it will not be safe to file for a Refund or R4C a presentment.
It does seem to work conversely though, for some metaphysical reason like how a dog can sense fear. If you train properly in the lesson plan and develop good record-forming skills with your evidence repository then it would seem you can confidently (competently) R4C a presentment with no evidence repository at all.
One suitor (understand this one is a former Army Ranger) had a traffic ticket just before we met and he filed his LoR. It was amazing how quickly he learned the principles but he had genuine fearless chutzpa too. A few days later he went in to the pre-trial traffic hearing and knew inherently that when the clerk gave him the yellow slip with the trial date on it that was a new Presentment. He pulled out a pen and wrote
Refused for Cause across the Notice and boldly walked to the bench saying,
Let the Record show that this presentment is Refused for Cause timely and returned to the Presenter. He then left the judge stuttering a little but asking,
What am I supposed to do with this? - shaking the R4C/Notice in the air. He left and nothing more came of it.
The wonderful thing about this confidence (competence) is that he was utilizing the recording equipment and cattle court full of witnesses for his record-forming. He did not so much as keep a copy or carry an audio recorder!
Regards,
David Merrill.
P.S. Since I have learned that the driver license itself is a bond. One fellow I met (RAP/RuSA oriented) has a speeding ticket issue he countered with Sovereign Citizen arguments that would have come out of my mouth fifteen years ago. The court clerk mailed him an unsigned arrest warrant with the CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST's name on it so he went unprepared (with $250 cash) to the clerk and inquired. They told him he was under arrest and his bail was $250. He started to leave to visit an ATM but they handcuffed him so he called somebody to bring the cash.
I explained it to him.
The executive officer (stopping officer) knows that in traffic the man is already with one foot in jail. The driver license and the privilege it represents is considered by the court to be worth about $250 - general bond rule. Speeding by way of charge is usually about $125 and the general bond rule is that 2X that amount be posted. By exhibiting his trust in the State and the TRUST;
LAST, FIRST M. the man was posting the $250 bond because of the presumption that the driver license - property of the State, which is easily revokable was worth that much to the man. When he went in with sovereign citizen Patriot arguements about jurisdiction, the judge determined he might not put that much value in his driving privilege and revoked his card as bond - brought him in to put up something that was likely to be of more value but equal value to most people - $250 cash.
I sum though, an attorney in a black robe today might revoke our former Army Ranger's driver license. That did not happen to him though - about ten years ago.
Originally Posted by David Merrill
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