COLB and BC as a DEED to One's Body = Land

[Michael Joseph]

greetings michael joseph, david merrill and the rest of the wo/men on this forum. this is my first post hereon.

just to give a bit of background, i have read and enjoyed and have tried to internalize the teachings granted on this and many other forums/venues as well, my journey having started in july of 2012 upon choosing to review some 9-11 (september 11, 2001) videos on youtube that gave rise to many doubts and fears (!!) regarding what's really 'going on' in the world and how to best come out of her. please feel free to correct and comment on any and everything granted here by this man. the process, from my limited ability to 'see' and 'hear' is never-ending and i'm just beginning. many thanks if advance.

in the process, the other day i came across michael jospeh's 2011 pdf entitled "Commentary on Land", as i'm in the process of comprehending all that needs to be comprehended/overstood in order to have land here on idaho vested in this man and then assigned/conveyed/transferred to another party as fiduciary (trustee) for maintenance, upkeep, insurance, etcetera for said land and all corporeal and incorporeal appurtenances, etcetera all.

many thanks for sharing, michael joseph!

one question: were there originally only 13 pages to said pdf file? it seems that the description was cut off; that there was more that may not have been included in the pdf as posted on this forum.

any (further) assistance and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

peace, love and life to you all and yours...

andrew patrick

Unfortunately I wrote that prior to the "great computer crash of 2013". I lost many of my writings in that crash. I heard a man say that in order for one to love another there must be intimacy. I myself do not subscribe to such a philosophy. I can love my brethren in my work. Which is evidenced in your writing. Apparently you benefited from the work and as such I am edified and find justification of my purpose.

I will attempt to connect this thread to another more recent thread with the concept of the dead hand. When land aliens to a dead hand there can be no compelled service of a dead hand. Consider now the concept of Socage and Ward in regard to management of persons and various estates granted of the king to his lords.

[andrew patrick]

Unfortunately I wrote that prior to the "great computer crash of 2013". I lost many of my writings in that crash. I heard a man say that in order for one to love another there must be intimacy. I myself do not subscribe to such a philosophy. I can love my brethren in my work. Which is evidenced in your writing. Apparently you benefited from the work and as such I am edified and find justification of my purpose.

I will attempt to connect this thread to another more recent thread with the concept of the dead hand. When land aliens to a dead hand there can be no compelled service of a dead hand. Consider now the concept of Socage and Ward in regard to management of persons and various estates granted of the king to his lords.

first and foremost, many thanks for the quick response and for posting more on the topic inquired about.

second, many thanks for granting more discernment on said topic. beautiful.

regarding a warranty deed, i was granted upon consideration a copy from a deputy recorder (ada county idaho) of a warranty deed for property that i formerly 'owned' - in fee simple; who's my daddy/lord - seeing that the only signatory on said instrument was the alleged grantor. i, as grantee, had not signed that instrument.

so i did sign the recently-acquired certified copy, signed it, put together a acknowledgment and acceptance (perfection of the deed, as i comprehend it), along with secretary of state's acknowledgment of the notary which acknowledged my autograph/signature/mark.

to try to make a long story short, one of the deputy recorder's said she'd have to check with the recorder, who was out to lunch at the time. in the meantime, she asked if i wanted her to take a copy of said instruments to show the recorder when the got back. at first i refused to grant copies, then after some back and forth, i said ok and she commenced to make copies.

at that point, a grant and been made, but i as grantor (of the instruments) and the office of recorder as... grantee/trustee? no beneficiary was named, nor was there any indenture or declaration made, so i don't know. in the end, the instruments were never 'recorded' on the county.

[several 'cool' things happened on this one visit which served to give me discernment and i find myself trying to relate all of it. i'll cease that now and keep it short(er)]

in general, i now am going to correct what i trust are mistakes in both the warranty deed - i'll delete all references to 'fee' - and the acknowledgment to reflect 'absolute title'.

regarding the certificate of live birth, i'm still trying to wrap my head around the nature, substance and character of a 'certificate' issued by... i'm not sure.. a de jure or de facto or intruder/usurper 'office/officer/entity', such as a certificate of title of a vehicle (illinois verbiage, i believe) and others, including but not limited to the certificate of live birth (colb).

in taking in what the likes of christian walters (cw) has/had to offer on the topic of trust relations, it seems to my comprehension that certificates issued by entities, such as the colb, are certificates of legal title with the beneficial title vested in the county/state/entity. in the discussion i listened to where said discernment took place, the example was a title to a car, so that may explain the difference here. in any case, cw stressed that from his perspective, as soon as both (legal and equitable/beneficial) titles merged in the same trust posistion (grantor, beneficiary or trustee), that particular trust terminates... and then what? they leave you alone...

in gaining discernment from the likes of roark (seminars with eric jon phelps on pennsylvania), the end goal, for instance with one is sued for an alleged credit card debt, getting beat up in an inferior, at-law court, all the while reserving as many equitable liberties and rights as possible, then appealing de novo, getting into private chambers, enumerating all the trusts associated with said court case and having the 'judge' appoint the clerk of the court as trustee to hold all the funds from the securitizations related to the credit card application signature, pool and servicing agreements, etcetera.

redemption has got to be simpler than all that. i trust in my heart and in yahweh that it is. the discernment escapes my limited vision and hearing at this point however.

maybe claiming that colb 'to' the (birth) county attorney and assigning it on special deposit? or any county attorney for that matter, for setoff, settlement and closure of all debt accounts and revestment and return of all issues, profits, proceeds, etcetera generated/created therefrom (and held in the ESTATE NAME).

i'll stop now.

many thanks for the past and all future input!

love, peace and life to you all...

[andrew patrick]

Unfortunately I wrote that prior to the "great computer crash of 2013". I lost many of my writings in that crash. I heard a man say that in order for one to love another there must be intimacy. I myself do not subscribe to such a philosophy. I can love my brethren in my work. Which is evidenced in your writing. Apparently you benefited from the work and as such I am edified and find justification of my purpose.

I will attempt to connect this thread to another more recent thread with the concept of the dead hand. When land aliens to a dead hand there can be no compelled service of a dead hand. Consider now the concept of Socage and Ward in regard to management of persons and various estates granted of the king to his lords.

here on boise, idaho, at the state archives location, they are exhibiting what purport to be letters patent (appointments to offices such as chief justice of the supreme court, etc. of the "Territory of Idaho") and other writings, including the attached, which, if i remember correctly, lincoln allegedly scribed as an attorney for some folks he knew regarding some property they claimed an interest in.

interesting to note some of the words/terms that michael joseph offered in his explanation of the various degrees and nature of 'fee' as regards real property, such as 'fee simple absolute', 'living stock of heirs', etcetera. i don't recall in what year this was purported to have been made.

peace, love and life to all...

p.s. can't find a way to attach a photo. may just not see it or may have to wait to be 'unfiltered' on this forum

[Michael Joseph]

here on boise, idaho, at the state archives location, they are exhibiting what purport to be letters patent (appointments to offices such as chief justice of the supreme court, etc. of the "Territory of Idaho") and other writings, including the attached, which, if i remember correctly, lincoln allegedly scribed as an attorney for some folks he knew regarding some property they claimed an interest in.

interesting to note some of the words/terms that michael joseph offered in his explanation of the various degrees and nature of 'fee' as regards real property, such as 'fee simple absolute', 'living stock of heirs', etcetera. i don't recall in what year this was purported to have been made.

peace, love and life to all...

p.s. can't find a way to attach a photo. may just not see it or may have to wait to be 'unfiltered' on this forum

Hello andrew patrick.

I like your name: andrew - "a might man"; patrick - From the Latin name Patricius, which meant "nobleman".

I remember when I used to go a-searchin in the state archives. There came a day though when I dug too deep. The "archive master" said "boy dem papers are confidential". That was when I knew for sure - i was not entitled to see the business plan. Now consider for a moment what that means. If I was to enter into public office would I then be entitled to see "dem der papers?" I think not. Therefore that tells me that good ole North Cacalaki was a PROPRIETORSHIP - and guess what I found.

north carolina land patent.pdf

an den I thunk to meself dat purhapz just purhapz the good ole U.S. was also a private organization established with its own business plan.

Canada is clearly subject to English Law here in the States it is the same it is just not so clear. For while the subject were granted liberty [a revocable grant] the interests in the plantations were never abandoned. Ref "so called" peace treaty written by the "so called" loser telling the "so called" winner how the "so called" winner was going to repay the war debt.

For you bible thumpers I will restate. Tyre just moved to a new location - New York city.

[David Merrill]

Tyre just moved to a new location - New York city.

Trafficking in the souls of men...

[Michael Joseph]

So today I was talking to a man who performs the office of landscape contractor to the development community. He was a bit upset about his having to collect Sales and Use Taxes on behalf of the State. He had a moment so I took the minute or two to explain the trust relationship of which he is clearly the trustee.

He represents the interests of his company in such a manner to the State Revenue Department to the extent that he has filed for a State Sales and Use license to collect taxes. I will not enter into whether or not he is required to do such a deed but rather I enter upon the concept of he filing an APPLICATION FOR BENEFITS as Grantee/Trustee. He received the benefit of a Sales and Use number [benefits public trust of which he is a member] and for the benefit of the use of the trust account number, he gets the privilege to collect the taxes, file the reports and hold the taxes in trust on behalf of the State whereof he must give accurate accounting as Trustee.

He was a bit upset that he is not getting paid for all of this extra work. It is almost humorous isn't it? When one gets involved in central banking one has indeed stepped into a mountain of horse "manure". I told him that this must qualify for one of the seven levels of hell just above the yearly trip to the DMV whereupon one stands in line for at least an hour for the privilege to give the grumpy clerk protection money to keep the pesky "made men and their agents" at bay.

Once I made special visitation upon an emergency room wherein many were performing special services for the sick and the needy. Once I was asked to be a guarantor for any services performed and I was asked to grant the men and women who were occupying in such offices full indemnification for any such service they performed or thought needed to be performed on me or to me. I am not inclined to think of the temple in which I reside as an experimental guinea pig; therefore, I declined to accept liability for others to practice upon the temple. To the surprise of the men and women they were informed to perform their office absent any charges. Desiring now to give extra special treatment to the crazy man who seemingly knows the deal, they offered such service as MRI scans and other such exploratory procedures. Without desire for such treatment, I just said No. And that was that!

I wonder if the good ole admin folk even knew that I had the power to grant or accept all liability. I choose to let them do their job in full liability as it should be.

Shalom,
MJ