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  1. #51
    Abstract:
    The assertion that a ?license? is simply a ?contract not to sue? has become a commonplace in both copyright and patent law.

    I argue that this notion is conceptually flawed, and has become a straightjacket channeling juristic reasoning into unproductive channels. At root, a license is not a contract, but a form of property interest.

    It may be closely intertwined with a set of contractual relationships, but its nature and consequences cannot be satisfactorily explained from within the world of contract doctrine alone.

    In this article, I seek to explain the complementary but parallel roles played by property and contract doctrine in creation of the various forms of legal interests we refer to as ?licenses.?

    Each doctrine has its own set of governing formalities that afford titleholders various means through which to create and protect use privileges granted to others, while still retaining residual title for themselves.

    I argue that clarifying the extent to which licenses are exercises of powers conferred by property rather than contract law provides a key to proper application of Section 204 of the Copyright Act of 1976, which has been (erroneously) construed as a statute of frauds governing contract formation, as opposed to one governing a specific form of property conveyance. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=2010853

    And

    Rather, a license is a permission granted by one party to another allowing use of a property without fear of lawsuit brought by the granting party. A license does not include a return promise (i.e., consideration) from the licensee. So, as we all learned in law school, a license cannot be a contract under law. This is not to say that a license cannot be an element of a contract under which two parties trade promises, one of such promises being a license. This is commonly known as a "license agreement." But a bald license, a one-way promise, is enforceable outside of contract law. It is something apart. It exists and is enforceable under property law doctrine. http://softwarelawyer.blogspot.com/2...-v-katzer.html
    Last edited by Chex; 11-02-12 at 11:42 AM.

  2. #52
    Try Black's Law Dictionary under license which you will note: see servitude.

    Then grab a copy of Bouvier's Law Dictionary 1856 to get the historical rundown on this practice.

    Other terms of interest will be munera and tenancy at will.

    A license is a form and type of grant.

    Interesting we run full circle and encounter estates again ....
    Last edited by shikamaru; 11-02-12 at 07:57 PM.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
    Abstract:

    Rather, a license is a permission granted by one party to another allowing use of a property without fear of lawsuit brought by the granting party. A license does not include a return promise (i.e., consideration) from the licensee. So, as we all learned in law school, a license cannot be a contract under law. This is not to say that a license cannot be an element of a contract under which two parties trade promises, one of such promises being a license. This is commonly known as a "license agreement." But a bald license, a one-way promise, is enforceable outside of contract law. It is something apart. It exists and is enforceable under property law doctrine. http://softwarelawyer.blogspot.com/2...-v-katzer.html
    Thank you for that explanation!


    I think you may be saying social contract?

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Try Black's Law Dictionary under license which you will note: see servitude.

    Then grab a copy of Bouvier's Law Dictionary 1856 to get the historical rundown on this practice.

    Other terms of interest will be munera and tenancy at will.

    A license is a form and type of grant.

    Interesting we run full circle and encounter estates again ....
    Will you post Black's Law and Bouvier's Law Dictionary definition of license?

    I think you may be saying social contract?

    munera and grants but "This table of contents does not appear in the law"

    and i want a refund

    Free air travel, first-class accommodations is required in (i) for me: There are authorized to be made available for expenditure out of the Trust Fund such amounts as are required to pay travel expenses, either on an actual cost or commuted basis, to parties, their representatives, and all reasonably necessary witnesses for travel within the United States (as defined in section 210(i)) to attend reconsideration interviews and proceedings before administrative law judges with respect to any determination under this title.
    Last edited by Chex; 11-03-12 at 12:34 PM.

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
    Will you post Black's Law and Bouvier's Law Dictionary definition of license?
    Here is Bouvier's 1856.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chex
    I think you may be saying social contract?
    A license is a SERVITUDE at least according to legal sources.
    Contracts and servitudes are not synonymous at least according to legal sources.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chex
    munera and grants but "This table of contents does not appear in the law"

    and i want a refund

    Free air travel, first-class accommodations is required in (i) for me: There are authorized to be made available for expenditure out of the Trust Fund such amounts as are required to pay travel expenses, either on an actual cost or commuted basis, to parties, their representatives, and all reasonably necessary witnesses for travel within the United States (as defined in section 210(i)) to attend reconsideration interviews and proceedings before administrative law judges with respect to any determination under this title.
    You will find the definitions for munera, tenancy, and tenancy at wills in Bouvier's Law Dictionary (1856).
    Last edited by shikamaru; 11-03-12 at 01:05 PM.

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    the first and middle name were given to you from parents,
    statement of live birth shows given names and is evidence to this fact,
    since it was given to you then they are your property,
    those given names hold a claim to the land and assets,

    the last name was never given to you,
    it was assigned to you, not your property,
    you must be holding it in trust then,

    the BC only states name,
    name of what?
    property of whom?
    who signed the BC?
    who holds liability?

    what we got going here is a Usufruct,
    government does not like you using that word with them,
    reveals the true story of the name and title,

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    the first and middle name were given to you from parents,
    statement of live birth shows given names and is evidence to this fact,
    since it was given to you then they are your property,
    those given names hold a claim to the land and assets,

    the last name was never given to you,
    it was assigned to you, not your property,
    you must be holding it in trust then,

    the BC only states name,
    name of what?
    property of whom?
    who signed the BC?
    who holds liability?

    what we got going here is a Usufruct,
    government does not like you using that word with them,
    reveals the true story of the name and title,
    I'm glad you responded to the thread. I've spent the better part of today trying to figure out exactly what goes on when the birth registry occurs. In light of what you posted, who (in your mind) is exercising usufructuary powers?
    Now you must repent and turn to God so that your sins may be wiped out, that time after time your souls may know the refreshment that comes from the presence of God. Then he will send you Jesus, your long-heralded Christ.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    the first and middle name were given to you from parents, statement of live birth shows given names and is evidence to this fact, since it was given to you then they are your property, those given names hold a claim to the land and assets, what we got going here is a Usufruct, the true story of title,
    Of beneficiary: Nothing more needed to be said.

    "Is Social Security a contract? A private insurance policy is clearly a contract because the policyholder (them) makes a promise to pay money to the insurance company,(SSA) which in turn agrees to likewise pay the policyholder (beneficiary you). Who paid my premiums LOL since I was fourteen?

    (c) No other property exempt
    Notwithstanding any other law of the United States (including section 207 of the Social Security Act), no property or rights to property shall be exempt from levy other than the property specifically made exempt by subsection (a).

    Sec. 207. [42 U.S.C. 407] (a) The right of any person to any future payment under this title shall not be transferable or assignable, at law or in equity, and none of the moneys paid or payable or rights existing under this title shall be subject to execution, levy, attachment, garnishment, or other legal process, or to the operation of any bankruptcy or insolvency law.

    furnish his/hers employer with Form W-4 (or its equivalent) for withholding.

    Okay since I paid the premiums whats my return?

    Lets see in the year 1973 I was 14 and retired after age 52 that means I paid premiums for 39 years of a A private insurance policy and I don?t have nothing?

  9. #59
    I will post the definition from Black's Law Dictionary concerning license when I get time.

  10. #60
    I am sure I have mentioned this before. I was saving this fellow's castle when the US clerk of court was insisting on falsifying his name:


    I wrote to Congress and paid them $350 to hear about this falsification of fact and the clerk immediately got in line (and was soon replaced:


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