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    Taken from another source.

    TAKE:

    1. To Lay Hold of; to gain or receive into possession; To Seize; To Deprive one of the possession of; to assume ownership. Thus, it is a Constitutional provision that a Man's (PRIVATE) Property SHALL NOT be TAKEN for Public Uses WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION. 9 Ind. 433.

    2. To Obtain or assume possession of a chattel UNLAWFULLY, and without the Owner's Consent; to appropriate things to one's own use with felonious intent. Thus, an actual TAKING is essential to constitute larceny. 4 Bl. Comm. 430.

    3. To Seize or apprehend a person; to Arrest the body of a person by virtue of Lawful Process. Thus, a CAPIAS commands the officer to TAKE the body of the defendant. (The Judicial "Commercial" Courts have been arresting the WRONG Person; the Private Person instead of the US Fictional "Corpus account" Person, who is bound to the Commercial Codes.)

    4. To acquire the Title to an ESTATE; to receive an estate in lands from another person by Virtue of some SPECIES of TITLE. Thus, one is said to "take by purchase," "take by descent," "take a LIFE-interest under the DEVISE," etc. (Certificate of LIVE Birth", Driver's License with the LIVING"S picture, other documents with the LIVING Autograph.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
    appellation http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...om/appellation

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    TAKE:

    1. To Lay Hold of; to gain or receive into possession; To Seize; To Deprive one of the possession of; to assume ownership. Thus, it is a Constitutional provision that a Man's (PRIVATE) Property SHALL NOT be TAKEN for Public Uses WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION. 9 Ind. 433.

    How many argue Section 1 article 8 - lawful money is gold/silver. But there is a HUGE difference between a State and a District. File any cause in the USDC and you will find that on North Carolina the style will be as such:

    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF NORTH CAROLINA

    Notes are fine all day long within the Districts.

    The contract was made in the District of Columbia; was to be there performed; and respected real property in Washington. Within this District, Congress has power to exercise exclusive legislation, in all cases whatsoever. Art. I, sec. 8, ch. 17

    These terms unquestionably include the power to make treasury notes legal tender for all debts. Willard v Taylor, 8 Wall. 557 (1869)

    …the people of the insurgent States, under the Confederate government were, in legal contemplation, substantially in the same condition as inhabitants of districts of a country occupied and controlled by an invading belligerent. The rules which would apply in the former case would apply in the latter; and, as in the former case, the people must be regarded as subjects of a foreign power, …and contracts among them be interpreted and enforced with reference to the conditions imposed by the conqueror, so in the latter case, the inhabitants must be regarded as under the authority of the insurgent belligerent power actually established as the government of the country, and contracts made with them must be interpreted and enforced with reference to the condition of things created by the acts of the governing power. Thorington v. Smith, 75 U.S. 1, 12 (1868)


    Now therefore the Military Commander was tasked to create DISTRICTS - and notice that Within the Bounded Survey known as the DISTRICT of [INSERT NAME] we see notes.

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    district (n.)
    1610s, "territory under the jurisdiction of a lord or officer," from French district (16c.), from Medieval Latin districtus "restraining of offenders, jurisdiction," then under the feudal system "area of jurisdiction," noun use of past participle of Latin distringere "hinder, detain" (see distress). Used vaguely of "any tract of land" from 1712. District attorney attested by 1789, American English.
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    distress (n.)
    late 13c., "circumstance that causes anxiety or hardship," from Old French destresse, from Vulgar Latin *districtia "restraint, affliction, narrowness, distress," from Latin districtus, past participle of distringere "draw apart, hinder," also, in Medieval Latin "compel, coerce," from dis- "apart" (see dis-) + stringere "draw tight, press together" (see strain (v.)). Meaning "anguish, suffering; grief" is from c.1300.

    territory (n.)
    early 15c., "land under the jurisdiction of a town, state, etc.," probably from Latin territorium "land around a town, domain, district," from terra "earth, land" (see terrain) + -orium, suffix denoting place (see -ory).

    An alternative theory, somewhat supported by the vowels of the original Latin word, suggests derivation from terrere "to frighten" (see terrible); thus territorium would mean "a place from which people are warned off." Sense of "any tract of land, district, region" is first attested c.1600. Specific U.S. sense of "organized self-governing region not yet a state" is from 1799.



    I wonder why English was chosen as the official corporate language of the planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post


    I wonder why English was chosen as the official corporate language of the planet?
    ISH is Hebrew for Man. BRT is Hebrew for Contract. BRIT-ISH is hebrew for Contract Man. Ephraim is a Multitude of Nations. Manasseh is a Strong Nation. And the older Manasseh shall serve the younger Ephraim.

    Concerning Dis-Trict - Federal - let me see:

    Quoting: Mastery of the Universal-Legal-Technology:

    "Some surprising things are discovered as we look deeply into the subject of syllables. We in America have what
    is called a Federal District Court. These courts are the lowest courts in the federal court system, (excluding the
    federal bankruptcy courts). The word "Federal" comes from the latin word "foedus," meaning "Foul, hideous,
    revolting, vile, disgraceful, filthy, disgusting, or repulsive." The word District comes from the Latin: districtus and
    distringere. Further break down reveals that dis- (prefix) means “rich, having or containing or bringing wealth.” Disis
    also a name of “Pluto, god of the Lower World.” On the other hand, _trictus (suffix) has the meaning: “nonsense;
    vexation, troubles; [to] behave in an evasive manner; trifle/ delay/dally; [to] cause trouble; [to] pull/play tricks.”
    Distringere means to “stretch out/apart; detain; distract; pull in different directions.”62 Therefore, a Federal District
    Court is a foul, hideous, revolting, vile, disgraceful, filthy, disgusting, or repulsive court of Pluto, a demon god, used to
    bring wealth through all sorts of nonsense, vexation, troubles, evasiveness, trifling, delays, dallying, troubles, and
    tricks; all employed to stretch apart, detain, distract, and pull in different directions — the parties of the litigation.

    What disturbs me is that the creators of the federal district court system in 1792 were either evil, or trying to make
    fools of us all. Maybe they were cussing at the court in a foreign language, what a mystery. To fix this problem, we
    started using the term: Di-strict-Court of the Unity-States. Later, Unity was changed to Union, because it did not
    sound so controversial, like the Unity Church"

    62 From the University of Notre Dame Latin Dictionary Online.

    In my opinion, Hebrew was the original language - the languages were confused. If you are one who stays upon this non-sense called Evolution, then please explain to me why it is Evolutionally practical to have 6000+ different languages. Wouldn't it be better [survival speaking] to just have one common language? Of course it would. Stack one up for the Creationist. Wahooooo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post

    TAKE:


    2. To Obtain or assume possession of a chattel UNLAWFULLY, and without the Owner's Consent; to appropriate things to one's own use with felonious intent. Thus, an actual TAKING is essential to constitute larceny. 4 Bl. Comm. 430.
    The Grantor hereby covenants with said Grantee that the Grantor is lawfully seized of said land in fee simple

    How do we find the meaning of SEIZED?

    SEISIN, estates. The possession of an estate of freebold. 8 N. H. Rep. 57; 3 Hamm. 220; 8 Litt. 134; 4 Mass. 408. Seisin was used in contradistinction to that precarious kind of possession by which tenants in villenage held their lands, which was considered to be the possession of their lords in, whom the freehold continued.

    2. Seisin is either in fact or in law.

    3. Where a freehold estate is conveyed to a person by feoffment, with livery of seisin, or by any of those conveyances which derive their effect from the statute of uses, he acquires a seisin in deed or in fact, and a freehold in deed: but where the freehold comes to a person by act of law, as by descent, he only acquires a seisin in law, that is, a right of possession, and his-estate is called a freehold In law.

    4. The seisin in law, which the heir acquires on the death of his ancestor, May be defeated by the entry of a stranger, claiming a right to the land, which is called an abatement. (q. v.)

    5. The actual seisin of an estate may be lost by the forcible entry of a stranger who thereby ousts or dispossesses the owner this act is called a disseisin. (q. v.)

    6. According to Lord Mansfield, the various alterations which have been made in the law for the last three centuries, "have left us but the name of feoffment, seisin, tenure, and, freeholder, without any precise knowledge of the thing originally signified by these sounds."

    7. In the United States, a conveyance by deed executed and acknowledged, and properly recorded according to law, and the descent cast upon the heir are, in general, considered as a seisin in deed without entry; and a grant by letters- patent from the commonwealth has the same effect. 4 Mass. R. 546; 7 Mass. R. 494; 15. Mass. R. 214 1 Munf. R. 17O. The recording of a deed is equivalent to livery of seisin. 4 Mass. 546.

    8. In Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts and Ohio, seisin means merely, ownership, and the distinction between seisin in deed and in law is not known in practice. Walk. Intr. 324, 330; 1 Hill. Abr. 24 4 Day, R. 305; 4 Mass.; R. 489 14 Pick. R. 224. A patent by the commonwealth, in Kentucky, gives a, right entry, but not actual seisin. 3 Bibb, Rep. 57. Vide 1 Inst. 31; 19 Vin. Ab. 306; Dane's Abr. c. 104, a. 3; 4 Kent, Com. 2, 381; Cruise's Dig. t. 1, §23; Toull. Dr. Civ. Fr. liv. 3, t. 1, c. 1, n. 80; Poth. Traite des Fiefs, part 1, c. 2; 3 Sumn. R. 170. Vide Livery of Seisin.

    SEIZURE, practice. The act of taking possession of the property of a person condemned by the judgment of a competent tribunal, to pay a certain sum of money, by a sheriff, constable, or other officer, lawfully authorized thereto, by virtue of an execution, for the purpose of having such property sold according to law to satisfy the judgment. By seizure is also meant the taking possession of goods for a violation of a public law; as the taking possession of a ship for attempting an illicit trade. 2 Cranch, 18 7; 6 Cowen, 404; 4 Wheat. 100; 1 Gallis. 75; 2 Wash. C. C. 127, 567.

    2. The seizure is complete as soon as the goods are within the power of the officer. 3 Rawle's Rep. 401; 16 Johns. Rep. 287; 2 Nott & McCord, 392; 2 Rawle's Rep. 142; Wats. on Sher. 172; Com. Dig. Execution, C 5.

    3. The taking of part of the goods in a house, however, by virtue of a fieri facias in the name of the whole, is a good seizure of all. 8 East, R. 474. As the seizure must be made by virtue of an execution, it is evident that it cannot be made after the return day. 2 Caine's Rep. 243; 4 John. R. 450. Vide Door; House; Search Warrant.

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    Quoting other sources:

    Q: What does seized in fee simple mean?

    That means real property was owned by the decedent at the time of her death, i.e., the decedent was seized in fee simple of certain property as follows . . . . When land is conveyed to a new owner the new owner becomes seized in fee simple of that property. It's an old common law from the word seisen which is the possession of a freehold estate. Seisen was used to contrast the lesser estate held by tenants in a village where the land was considered to be the possession of the lords who held the freehold estate.

    Q: Fee simple- does land conveyed in fee simple include mineral rights?

    Initially, land is conveyed from a government to private ownership by a land "grant" or a land "patent". The government may or may not include or exclude mineral rights in the land grant or land patent, or such rights may be governed by statutory law. A government may choose to lease or sell such mineral rights separate from the "land" or "real property".Subsequently, land or real property is conveyed from private ownership to private ownership by "Deed". A private owner could sell off the mineral rights to one party while selling off the land to another title" (the land grant or patent, followed by a series of conveyance deeds).Generally, land conveyed "fee simple" also conveys the mineral rights from a Grantor to a Grantee, provided that the Grantor possessed such mineral rights to convey.To find out whether the Grantee has, and the Grantor had, such mineral rights requires tracing back the "chain of title" (usually with a County Clerk of Court or County Recorder of Deeds). One is looking for any deed restrictions or separation of mineral rights in such chain of title. Then one also needs to research whether Federal or State law reserve mineral rights to the government through the land grant or land patent or any subsequent transfers.An important component of "mineral rights" is usually the "right of entry" to exploit such rights. While many mineral rights holdings lay "dormant", they often have a exploit the land as compared with a property owner. Which means that they can choose to excavate a huge hole or otherwise tear up your property to exploit what is underneath it. They "eventually" need to compensate you or to more or less put things back the way they may have more rights to the land than you have to the property. It depends on the governing law (federal or state) and who granted what to whom and when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    I believe the basis of being detained on the street is probable cause.
    Well if that's the case, we need to drill down exactly what probable cause is, and what it isn't. Probable cause is defined in the 4th amendment at the state and federal level as that which is supported by oath or affirmation. Further to that, there must be a major premise under scrutiny, not simply a minor premise "violation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Is a name, an appellation property?
    I believe it is "unclaimed" property. Have you ever made a public claim? I think one could do that easily and then effect a quiet title on the name and establish a fee schedule for the use of it without your express written permission. If you keep it under the Small Claims limit in your state, you could be having some real fun with that. Because after all, isn't it always all about right, title and interest?

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    [QUOTE="Forward to creator and owner of the name" then i put vital statistics address on it from the province in which i was born,
    its been 7 months and i have not had another statement sent to me...crossing fingers still and hoping for the best, but it looks like i hit a nerve,[/QUOTE]

    I've heard of at least 3 people claim to have made a visit to/called either the Sect'y of State or the Vital Stat's dept. in their state and ask who owns the name on the birth certificate. The answer was the agency owned the name. Then one guy got smart and said "excellent because I've got about several grand worth of bills to that name I need to pass along to you." He was asked to come back the next day which is when the agency clerk said, "sorry, my mistake, you own the name".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldi View Post
    I believe it is "unclaimed" property. Have you ever made a public claim? I think one could do that easily and then effect a quiet title on the name and establish a fee schedule for the use of it without your express written permission. If you keep it under the Small Claims limit in your state, you could be having some real fun with that. Because after all, isn't it always all about right, title and interest?
    Interesting idea !

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Interesting idea !
    David Merrill, was it Leroy Michael that was particularly adept at the King's Bench? I seem to recall him giving a lecture concerning how that works.

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