Quote Originally Posted by Keith Alan View Post
I enjoy reading you. You're good at looking at things from different angles. But regarding states and citizens, I think most people assume the role of being a state bank when they begin holding FRN's. By not demanding that the currency be redeemed in public money, by default they are engaged in a private enterprise. It's voluntary, in that redemption is available, but they opt instead for using private credit.

So the servitude is voluntary and not forced, thus complying with the 13th Amendment. They accept being 14th Amendment citizens, and become subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
I had an interesting discussion with a suitor studied in trust law. We broached the topic of the Masons and their jurisdictions. There is also some interesting treaties allegedly settled in international law at www.seagov.net that describe political and ecclesiatic jurisdictions. The survey of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness describes the jurisdiction of America better than the Constitution in my opinion. - Fifty-five men posting their entire estates as bond on a quiet title known as the Declaration of Independence.

Since that conversation I have been thinking that the public trust created by Congress in 1913 is a jurisdiction of its own. People can choose to be members of that Lodge or not.