Mortgage Co. going bankrupt

[Himself]

I do like the concept of binary, being a programmer that description is very satisfactory.

Is that not the basic system that was established for all of us, except that none of us were told there was such a thing as private and we all filled the role of our public persona all the time.

How does one acquire anything on the private side without going through some commercial process-with the exception of private-to-private contracts-and thereby having to dawn the public persona? What is the vehicle for transference? When redeeming lawful money is that considered a private transaction?

Yes, i agree on the UCC stuff, i am sure there is some validity to some things, but i don't really want to play their game, i just want out. I think a fair majority of the UCCers are by nature antagonistic and want some kind of vengeance. I on the contrary just want to be left the hell alone.

[shikamaru]

I do like the concept of binary, being a programmer that description is very satisfactory.

Programmer, eh? Well, I am a server engineer.

How does one acquire anything on the private side without going through some commercial process-with the exception of private-to-private contracts-and thereby having to dawn the public persona?

Many ways. One way is to produce or build it yourself.
Another way is to pay cash. Cash affords anonymity and privacy.
Draw up your contracts as private and tender gold and or silver coin at law.
Avoid registration.
Avoid insurance.
Avoid licensing.
Avoid controversy.
Practice privacy.
Practice competent administration.

There is also the issue of capacity in addition to establishing an evidence repository with respect to some major purchases.

What is the vehicle for transference?

You can buy right the first time as well as avoid credit.

When redeeming lawful money is that considered a private transaction?

David Merrill would have to answer that question.

[Himself]

Programmer, eh? Well, I am a server engineer.

That is a bit beyond me, i manage quite a few of them, but i could not engineer one if my life depended on such. Majored in networking not quite sure how i ended up as a consultant with a heavy emphasis on the development, but such is life.

Many ways. One way is to produce or build it yourself.
Another way is to pay cash. Cash affords anonymity and privacy.
Draw up your contracts as private and tender gold and or silver coin at law.
Avoid registration.
Avoid insurance.
Avoid licensing.
Avoid controversy.
Practice privacy.
Practice competent administration.

There is also the issue of capacity in addition to establishing an evidence repository with respect to some major purchases.

In theory that all sounds great, but having no precious metals, and being required to have contracts on the commercial/public side, getting them to agree to such terms is pretty laughable.

I would love to drop insurance, registration and the like, but to be honest i am not that brave yet (having a family of five to support and being the sole provider, somewhat dampens the courage in the face of possible imprisonment)

I have MUCH to learn, and i thank you sincerely for sharing with me your time and your knowledge.

[shikamaru]

That is a bit beyond me, i manage quite a few of them, but i could not engineer one if my life depended on such. Majored in networking not quite sure how i ended up as a consultant with a heavy emphasis on the development, but such is life.

These are great times to be a server guy .

Virtualization, cloud computing, SANs, datacenters, .... nothing but fun .

I'm really digging Powershell. M$ is doing some good stuff these days. Linux is always fun.

Customers .... not so much fun :[.

In theory that all sounds great, but having no precious metals, and being required to have contracts on the commercial/public side, getting them to agree to such terms is pretty laughable.

Theory becomes practice through application.
Application influences, refines, and creates theory.
It is a feedback loop.

I do have precious metals. I draft my own contracts as well.
If people want paper notes over metals, give'em banknotes. There are exceptions to this guideline.

Start small. Continue studying. Preparation takes time anyways.

I would love to drop insurance, registration and the like, but to be honest i am not that brave yet (having a family of five to support and being the sole provider, somewhat dampens the courage in the face of possible imprisonment)

Allow me divulge a bit more.
This is something you work into. Just as it takes time to move a program through planning, development, testing, implementation, and maintenance lifecycle, it takes time to work into this.
The program is not an all or none. Do bits and pieces. Do what you can. Slowly move towards where you want to be.

Given you do take care of others, they are dependent upon the system. You need those insurances, registration, and the like .... for now .
This model also represents a change in mindset. You'll be deprogramming yourself over time. Given all the years of indoctrination and inculcation of ideas and values you have endured, it will take to undo that.

It will take you years to reach a threshold that comforts you, but slow growth is good.

A poor or middle class probably couldn't handle having wealth all at once. A person must work up and into it. Give the mind and habits periods of adjustment.

I have MUCH to learn, and i thank you sincerely for sharing with me your time and your knowledge.

I recommend beginning with a study on contracts. Treatises are a favorite of mine.

I think in time you'll develop your own style and philosophy that works for you. That is what it is ultimately about in my opinion.
Most on this board have found theirs.

You just reminded me that I will need to write a treatise on this model sometime in the future.

[TDL]

Hey Guys.

Thought i would pose this question here as there seems to be quite a bit of knowledge floating around these forums. I have received notice of bankruptcy from my mortgage company and was wondering if there is a way to flip this on their heads and become a creditor to them and file a proof of claim or something to set off the debt.

Anyone have any ideas or knowledge in this area?

I have some thoughts, but 1st, a question: did you get "noticed" by the US-Bankruptcy Court, or the "mortgage company", sort-of in "fyi" terms?