IRS inquiry: Do incorrect 1099s need rebuttal?

[David Merrill]

I see it as Notice and Demand. But it is to the IRS which means it is limited. I believe that the IRS agents get guideline memorandums and last I checked these are no longer available for us as laymen to view. I find that encouraging.

This may be a little off point from the thread but I want to show you something. This is an indication of how one might be able to summon a response from the IRS attorneys through the federal court. I am using this process toward getting compliance toward settling a lien so I will be quiet about the details there. However you might get something out of these filings and the code too.

Title 28 USC §1782(a) The district court of the district in which a person resides or is found may order him to give his testimony or statement or to produce a document or other thing for use in a proceeding in a foreign or international tribunal, including criminal investigations conducted before formal accusation. The order may be made pursuant to a letter rogatory issued, or request made, by a foreign or international tribunal or upon the application of any interested person and may direct that the testimony or statement be given, or the document or other thing be produced, before a person appointed by the court. By virtue of his appointment, the person appointed has power to administer any necessary oath and take the testimony or statement. The order may prescribe the practice and procedure, which may be in whole or part the practice and procedure of the foreign country or the international tribunal, for taking the testimony or statement or producing the document or other thing. To the extent that the order does not prescribe otherwise, the testimony or statement shall be taken, and the document or other thing produced, in accordance with the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

A person may not be compelled to give his testimony or statement or to produce a document or other thing in violation of any legally applicable privilege.


(b) This chapter does not preclude a person within the United States from voluntarily giving his testimony or statement, or producing a document or other thing, for use in a proceeding in a foreign or international tribunal before any person and in any manner acceptable to him.

This came up with people in NY and elsewhere having trouble filing a Miscellaneous Case Jacket for an evidence repository for Notice and Demand (to redeem lawful money) like shown around here. So I used the PACER search engine to look up Miscellaneous Case usage and to conform the rules so that these new suitors could get their Notice and Demand published, therefore they can serve a certified copy on their bank instead of hassling with a Signature Card novation.

So you got it right if you figured it out on your own here. You want your Notice on Demand on the front page after your quick Application for whatever. In this case you want a correspondence back from the IRS. In a NY suitor's example he wants a response to the Notice and Demand ordered by the federal judge - from GEITHNER and BERNANKE too!

It does not matter if you get your response though. The purpose is that you get your Notice and Demand on the record in the "exclusive original cognizance" of the US government so that you can use it in your court at your pleasure.

These attachments gave me an example of something that the clerk of court would recognize and file, giving the suitor an evidence repository.

[allodial]

You can always put in default responses--as in tell them what they are agreeing to if they don't reply--I'd be reasonable. I have issued demands for reply and have gotten them in exactly the time required. I have even gotten requests for more time to reply. I don't take an antagonistic approach with the IRS agents. Many of them are quite helpful and can be quite kind people. However, if they fail to reply you can simply follow up with your concept of what they are agreeing to and file it in a case jacket. If the USDC Clerk is shy about taking the other papers, the memo might not seem so 'scary'.

I have taken the perspective much like this: that in some way or another they work for me and so I help both the IRS agents and "clients" by getting matters resolved peacefully (ala conservator of the peace).

I see it as Notice and Demand. But it is to the IRS which means it is limited. I believe that the IRS agents get guideline memorandums and last I checked these are no longer available for us as laymen to view. I find that encouraging.

Yeah those memos can be handy. Like one that hinted at an "individual" being a trust. Nonetheless, one can keep an eye out for changes to the Internal Revenue Manual.

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Re: 1099s. A 1099 doesn't necessarily evidence taxable income. It can simply indicate that some kind of 'flow' took place. It doesn't indicate that the amount in question was profit. A record of redemption for lawful money should serve as evidence in case of an audit. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Keywords: Gross income, taxable income, capital receipt, revenue receipt.

[David Merrill]

WoW! Allodial!

Great information! Thanks.

[stoneFree]

I just see a lot of rules and regs there; can you be more specific?

[JohnnyCash]

The benefits are still there, awaiting claim, even though I have not participated in SS since 2007; see below. And the estimates have grown since my last Earnings Report.

[Chex]

I’m just trying to get to the bottom of this letter.

In the first paragraph the federal law. Where is it?

The second paragraph cannot withdrawal from the program. Why not?

You can’t withdraw the taxes paid. Why not?

The fourth paragraph the supreme court upheld the constitutionality of the ss program as well as the act. Where is it?

The fifth IRS has jurisdiction over the liability for SS taxes. Why?



I read some have more than 1 set of account numbers and others that are visitors that work here don’t participate.

Besides ss being a welfare program it is a medical program now paying for other peoples health care and notice the voluntarily and mandatory words.

The act is a contract with one signature on it (mine) the rules are in the ss poms and in the ss act.

Do you understand this contract?

After extensive research into the issue of taxes and the use of the social security number. http://www.bibleprophesy.org/squaw.htm

United States Main article: Social Security number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_number

Then it’s a National identification number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...#United_States

[David Merrill]

My interpretation is that SSI is an insurance policy. You pay premiums and just because you did not get old yet you do not get to stop it while still alive and aging. Likewise you do not get your premiums back because you can always change your mind when you get old.

The terms as I understand them - meaning the terms when I signed on mean that after I pay premiums for 40+ quarters (10 years) I am eligible for life. I do not have a Social Security Number.

People wonder how I can put those sentences together.

For the purposes of posting on StSC, I have no SSN. I am not making an insurance claim. If you think your SSN is for revenue and income tax purposes you will be giving it for such purposes. If I thought that a SSN was for posting purposes then I could not truthfully tell you that I have no SSN, could I? I would defeat the purpose of the SSN by saying that here, supposing such a purpose existed.

Two keys opened this insight to me.

One was a visit to the Social Security Administration office - which I suggest you might try if you are serious about learning from your own works instead of trusting mine. The lady treated me like a financial terrorist when I demanded she remove my SSN from the records. She got the manager and was clearly expecting him to set me back right, in prison. He asked me when I applied for the number? - When I was twelve. Then he asked me how I keep the SSN in existence? - By writing it or saying it out loud. This was a long time ago but as I remember he suggested that I quit doing that.

[Let that slowly sink in between your ears!]

Key #2: I have heard that the terms of the contract about the 40+ quarters has been repealed... Not for me! Insurance is handled in admiralty:

Citation #6: A cardinal principle, in which the practice of admiralty courts differs from that of courts of common law, permits the parties to a suit to prosecute and defend upon their rights as such rights exist at the institution of the action; the assignment of a right of action being deemed to vest in the assignee all the privileges and remedies possessed by the assignor...

[Chex]

Where does one get that Certificate of Search written in Key #2: at David?

I see where you coming from http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...urity-20110919

The Judge: Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/19071...-ponzi-scheme/

[David Merrill]

Where does one get that Certificate of Search written in Key #2: at David?

I see where you coming from http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep...urity-20110919

The Judge: Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/19071...-ponzi-scheme/

Sorry I have not visited and noticed your question!

That cite is from Are You Lost at C? - the Memorandum of Law.

[Keyser Soze]

Although I have been redeeming lawful money, something I have been considering this year since my alleged tax burden will be a couple hundred at best, is to well-document a withdraw of lawful money from the bank, walk down to my local IRS office and get them to recognize that they are receiving lawful money in payment of this alleged debt. My question is, Can they accept payment?