DMV Certifications

[BONMAN]

competent authority, eh,

how did they become an authority?

First I am unclear as to whom you are refering to as "THEY"??

If I may; Please endulge me for just a moment with a likely scenario;
1. A child is born
2.The mother and or father is a "COMPETENT AUTHORITY", the child belongs to them;
3. The mother and or father being a "COMPETENT AUTHORITY", applies for a "LICENSE", "(in the form of a "Birth Certificate")
ONE MUST GIVE PERMISSION TO THE STATE (LICENSE) IN ORDER TO FOR THE "STATE" TRESSPASS ON ONES PRIVATE RIGHTS,
4. The "LICENSE" "(in the form of a "Birth Certificate")GIVES PERMISSION (authorization) to the "STATE" to "TRESPASS" upon the PRIVATE RIGHTS of the applicant


BLACKS 1910
LICENSE. In the law of contracts.
A permission, accorded by a competent authority,
conferring the right to do some act
which without such authorization would be
illegal, or would be a trespass or a tort.

sCENARIO #2
1. A Child is born (most likely on land that has been tranfered by land patent)
2.The mother and or father is a "COMPETENT AUTHORITY", the child belongs to them;
3. The mother and or father being a "COMPETENT AUTHORITY", DOES NOT apply for a "LICENSE"(in the form of a "Birth Certificate")
4.The child grows older and desires a "DRIVER LICENSE"
5. License agency states the child must provide a "Birth Certificate" otherwise the State License agency cannot DO BUSINESS with the applicant
6. The child or "COMPETENT AUTHORITY", must "GIVE" the "STATE" "LICENSE" (authorization) to TRESSPASS upon the PRIVATE RIGHTS of the child, otherwise it would be illegal,
7. So in by the act of providing "LICENSE" (authorization) to the "STATE" one gives up "PRIVATE RIGHTS" in favor of "PUBLIC"
8. Driver License is evidence of this fact, ( also Birth Cert., car tabs, Registered Land,etc.), also interestingly at the same time the "STATE" gives the applicant permission to "USE" the PUBLIC roads for Commercial purpose, i.e., Profit or Gain, PRIVELDGE ACTIVITY, since the Driver License, car tabs, etc., are Business License's
9. The applicant is issued a "BUSINESs LICENSE" in the FORM OF "SOLE PROPRIETOR"

Unless one commits a crime there is no reason or authority or the "STATE" or its agency to interact with you until you provide "LICENSE"

[EZrhythm]

Those are nice scenarios and mostly accurate except that the BC is not a license, it is a security instrument and certification of a pledge.
There is no "license" given by the BC alone. "License" is given with subsequent process such as when applying for a STATE OF... ID card, Driver License or ANY other process in which one declares that they are a "resident" within the STATE ( <---Political/Corporate "STATE", not territorial State). This includes enrollment in STATE schools or even obtaining STATE regulated services such as insurance.

*Declaring one self a "resident" also establishes the rebuttable presumption that one is engaging in commercial activities or otherwise, "in commerce" at ALL times. The theory that one is only "in commerce" while transporting passengers or cargo for hire is moot.

Example- While riding a bicycle at night without a light one is stopped by an officer and asked for ID. If ANY type of ID or information is offered that lends evidence that one is a "resident" then that person is presumed (rebuttable) to be in commerce within the STATE and is subject to the STATE codes/statutes. These codes are all regulated under the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC).

[Chex]

Like #9 states:

(9) "Financial asset," except as otherwise provided in Section 8-103, means:

(i) a security;

(ii) an obligation of a person or a share, participation, or other interest in a person or in property or an enterprise of a person, which is, or is of a type, dealt in or traded on financial markets, or which is recognized in any area in which it is issued or dealt in as a medium for investment; or

(iii) any property that is held by a securities intermediary for another person in a securities account if the securities intermediary has expressly agreed with the other person that the property is to be treated as a financial asset under this Article.

As context requires, the term means either the interest itself or the means by which a person's claim to it is evidenced, including a certificated or uncertificated security, a security certificate, or a security entitlement.

more

(7) "Entitlement holder" means a person identified in the records of a securities intermediary as the person having a security entitlement against the securities intermediary. If a person acquires a security entitlement by virtue of Section 8-501(b)(2) or (3), that person is the entitlement holder.

(b) Except as otherwise provided in subsections (d) and (e), a person acquires a security entitlement if a securities intermediary:

(1) indicates by book entry that a financial asset has been credited to the person's securities account;

(2) receives a financial asset from the person or acquires a financial asset for the person and, in either case, accepts it for credit to the person's securities account; or

(3) becomes obligated under other law, regulation, or rule to credit a financial asset to the person's securities account.

[BONMAN]

Those are nice scenarios and mostly accurate except that the BC is not a license, it is a security instrument and certification of a pledge.
There is no "license" given by the BC alone. "License" is given with subsequent process such as when applying for a STATE OF... ID card, Driver License or ANY other process in which one declares that they are a "resident" within the STATE ( <---Political/Corporate "STATE", not territorial State). This includes enrollment in STATE schools or even obtaining STATE regulated services such as insurance.

“Opinions are valueless as evidence without exploration of the underlying facts and rational showing the path from the facts to the opinion.”
U.S. v. R.J. Reynolds, 416 F. Supp. 316, 325.
I SEE THAT YOUR OPINION IS ONE OF THE GENERALY ACCEPTED CONCLUSIONS OF THE DEFINITION OR USAGE OF THE “BIRTH CERTIFICATE”, IT WELL MAY BE AFTER CONSUMATION OF REGISTRATION OF THE CERTIFICATE THAT THE “BIRTH CERTIFICATE”, THAT IT BE USED AS A SURETY INSTUMENT AS COLLATERAL AGAINST THE “NATIONAL DEBT” ( via 14th amend., corporate debt), AFTER ONE HAS VOLUNTEERED TO SURRENDER PRIVATE RIGHTS IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC VIA THE “BIRTH CERTIFICATE”.
I HAVE INCLUDED BELOW THE REVISED CODE OF WASHINGTON (RCW), IF ONE IS TO BELIEVE THE STATEMENT OF THE LEGISLATURE OF WASHINGTON, (via the “CODE REVISER”), THE LEGISLATURE DEFINED WORDS THAT HAVE LEGAL BINDING, AS WELL AS THE ORDINARILY DEFINED WORDS ONE WOULD COME TO THE CONCLUSION AS TO THE ACTUAL USE OF THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, i.e., “A BUSINESS LICENSE”. ONE MUST GIVE PERMISSION TO THE STATE (LICENSE) IN ORDER TO FOR THE "STATE" TRESSPASS ON ONES PRIVATE RIGHTS.
THEN YES YOUR “RESIDENCE”, OR, “RES” ( see definition below), IS THEN VESTED IN THE “FRANCHISE”, ( business), THAT YOU HAVE APPLIED FOR ONCE THE “CERTIFICATE” IS “REGISTERED” WITH THE “STATE”(corporation).
MY MOTHER AND FATHER PROVIDED ME WITH A NAME WHICH THEY USED TO SUMMON ME FOR DINNER AND THE LIKE, THE STATE ACCEPTED THE NAME THAT THEY PROVIDED TO ME, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY CHANGE THE SPELLING TO ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, THE STATE USES THE NEW NAME REGISTERED WITH THE STATE, (business license), TO SUMMON ME WHEN THEY WANT SOMETHING, i.e., SUCH AS TAXES.
MY INTEREST IS PEAKED……… IF THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS IN FACT A SURETY, PLEASE PROVIDE THE LAW CODE RULE THAT YOU ARE RELYING UPON TO PROVE THAT FACT, AS I AM UNABLE TO LOCATE THAT INFO IN THE RCW’S HERE.
Hoppe v. King County, 95 Wash.2d 332, 622 P.2d 845 (1980): "Public officers have only those powers expressly granted or necessarily implied by statute, " 622 P.2d, at 848

[walter]

the evidence that the BC is not a license is that it can not be revoked,

look at every license one can hold given from the state,
they all say on them that they are property of the issuing agency and MUST be returned upon request,
even the passport has it on it,


the BC says on its face that it is a CERTIFIED EXTRACT FROM THE REGISTRATION OF BIRTH

Bouviers Law Dictionary

EXTRACT.
A part of a writing. In general this is not evidence, because the whole of the writing may explain the part extracted, so as to give it a different sense; but sometimes extracts from public books are evidence, as the extracts from the registers of births, marriages and burials, kept according to law, when the whole of the matter has been extracted which relates to the cause or matter in issue.



when titles are registered the government makes an abstract,



ABSTRACT OF TITLE.
A brief account of all the deeds upon which the title to an estate rests. See Brief of Title.

BRIEF OP TITLE,
practice, conveyancing. An abridgment of all the patents, deeds, indentures, agreements, records, and papers relating to certain real estate.

2. In making a brief of title, the practitioner should be careful to place every deed and other paper in chronological order. The date of each deed; the names of the parties; the consideration; the description of the property; should be particularly, noticed, and all covenants should also be particularly inserted.

3. A vendor of an interest in realty ought to have his title investigated, abstracted, and evidence in proof of it ready to be produced and established before he sells; for if he sell with a confused title, or without being ready to produce deeds and vouchers, he must be at the expense of clearing it. 1 Chit. Pr. 304, 463.



now do you see how they became the AUTHORITY?

[David Merrill]

the evidence that the BC is not a license is that it can not be revoked,

look at every license one can hold given from the state,
they all say on them that they are property of the issuing agency and MUST be returned upon request,
even the passport has it on it,


the BC says on its face that it is a CERTIFIED EXTRACT FROM THE REGISTRATION OF BIRTH

Bouviers Law Dictionary

EXTRACT.
A part of a writing. In general this is not evidence, because the whole of the writing may explain the part extracted, so as to give it a different sense; but sometimes extracts from public books are evidence, as the extracts from the registers of births, marriages and burials, kept according to law, when the whole of the matter has been extracted which relates to the cause or matter in issue.



when titles are registered the government makes an abstract,



ABSTRACT OF TITLE.
A brief account of all the deeds upon which the title to an estate rests. See Brief of Title.

BRIEF OP TITLE,
practice, conveyancing. An abridgment of all the patents, deeds, indentures, agreements, records, and papers relating to certain real estate.

2. In making a brief of title, the practitioner should be careful to place every deed and other paper in chronological order. The date of each deed; the names of the parties; the consideration; the description of the property; should be particularly, noticed, and all covenants should also be particularly inserted.

3. A vendor of an interest in realty ought to have his title investigated, abstracted, and evidence in proof of it ready to be produced and established before he sells; for if he sell with a confused title, or without being ready to produce deeds and vouchers, he must be at the expense of clearing it. 1 Chit. Pr. 304, 463.



now do you see how they became the AUTHORITY?

I like my abstract - summarized to the original charter. Read §6 - perpetual inheritance:

[BONMAN]

the evidence that the bc is not a license is that it can not be revoked,

look at every license one can hold given from the state,
they all say on them that they are property of the issuing agency and must be returned upon request,
even the passport has it on it,


the bc says on its face that it is a certified extract from the registration of birth




now do you see how they became the authority?

my "driver license" and "birth certificate" says no such thing upon it............
Although a license is a "priviledge" which can be revoked at any time.........
A birth certificate admits residence, "res", which then confers or admits citizenship
citizenship can be revoked, changed.........

FIRST YOU MUST GIVE THEM (the State),"LICENSE" TO TRESSPASS ON YOUR RIGHTS, (at least here in the U.S., dont know about the great white north)...............

AGAIN WHERE IS THE AUTHORITY LOCATED IN THE "LAW" .........
I HAVE PRESENTED IN THE ATTATCHMENT IN ABOVE POST THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE AUTHORITY AS USED IN "THIS STATE"(washington RCW'S), WHICH CLEARLY STATES THAT A "LICENSE" IS A "CERTIFICATE"(i.e., BIRTH CERTIFICATE), THIS IS ALSO IN ACCORDANCE TO THE FEDERAL "LAWS" ............

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT : A DICTIONARY DEFINITION DOES NOT CONFER AUTHORITY , IT MERELY HELPS TO DETERMINE THE APPLICABILITY OF A "LAW", STATUTE, etc., etc., .............................

WHAT IS A BIRTH CERTIFICATE NEEDED FOR IN THE FIRST PLACE, ...YOU ARE YOU, I AM ME,...
THE REGISTRAION TAKES YOU FROM "PRIVATE" TO "PUBLIC"...........
ONE BECOMES PART OF OR JOINS WHAT EVER ONE REGISTERS WITH ..........

QUESTION: WHO BENIFITS FROM THE REGISTRATION ??------ BENIFICIAL USER ????
YOUR PRIVATE INFORMATION (common law) IS MADE PUBLIC (statutory law)

REGISTER
To record, or enter precisely in a designated place, certain information in the public records as is mandated by statute. A book of public records.

A register contains various types of information that is available to the public, such as births, dates, and marriages.

The term register is also used as a designation for the public official charged with the duty of maintaining such records.

West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008

Why are you mixing birth certificates with land titles i dont see the connect ........
Or how "they" became the authority.................

[BONMAN]

I like my abstract - summarized to the original charter. Read §6 - perpetual inheritance:

THIS IS ALL VERY INTERESTING AND IN ALL PRACTICALITY VERY, VERY TRUE, IF IT WERE ONLY THAT SIMPLE LIFE WOULD BE MUCH MORE EASY.
LET ME POINT OUT;
1. YOU ARE COMPAREING APPLES TO ORANGES SO TO SPEAK, PEOPLE (MAN WOMAN), TO PERSONS ( ARTIFICIAL ENTITIES, BUSINESS ENTITIES)
2. PEOPLE ARE NOT PERSONS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A MAN OR WOMAN ENGAGING IN A “SOLE PROPRIETOR” BUSINESS ENTITY
3. AS IS POINTED OUT IN THIS THREAD A DRIVER IS A “SOLE PROPRIETOR” BUSINESS ENTITY
4. A BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS “LICENSE” GRANTED BY A MAN OR WOMAN GRANTING PERMISSION TO TRESSPASS ON ONES PRIVATE RIGHTS ( please note “LICENSE”---- NOT A LICENSE)


BLACKS 1910

PATROON. The proprietors of certain
manors created in New York in colonial
times were so called.

PROPRIETOR.' This term is almost
synonymous with "owner," (q. v.,) as in the
phrase "riparian proprietor." A person entitled
to a trade-mark or a design under the
acts for the registration or patenting of
trade-marks and designs (g. v.) is called
"proprietor" of the trade-mark or design.
Sweet. See Latham v. Roach, 72 111. 181;
Yuengling v. Schile (C. C.) 12 Fed. 105;
Hunt v. Curry, 37 Ark. 105; Werckmeister v.
Springer Lithographing Co. (C. C.) 63 Fed.
811.

PROPRIETY. In Massachusetts colonial
ordinance of 1741 is nearly, if not precisely,
equivalent to property. Com. v. Alger,
7 Cush.' (Mass.) 53, 70.
In old English law. Property. "Propriety
in action; propriety in possession;
mixed propriety." Hale, Anal. § 26.


PROPERTY. Rightful dominion over
external objects; ownership; the unrestricted
and exclusive right to a thing; the right
to dispose of the substance of a thing ia
every legal way, to possess it, to use I t and
to exclude every one else from interfering
with it. Mackeld. Rom. Law, § 265.
Property is the highest right a man can have
to anything; being used for that right which
one has to lands or tenements, goods or chattels,
which noway depends on another man's courtesy.
Jackson ex dem. Pearson v. Housel, 17
Johns. 281, 283.
A right imparting to the owner a power of
indefinite user, capable of being transmitted to
universal successors by way of descent, and
imparting to the owner the power of disposition,
from himself and his successors per universitatem,
and from all other persons who have
a spes successions under any existing concession
or disposition, in favor of such person or
series of persons as he may choose, with the like
capacities and powers as he had himself, and
under such conditions as the municipal or particular
law allows to be annexed to the dispositions
of private persons. Aust. Jur. (Campbell's
Ed.) § 1103.
The right of property is that sole and despotic
dominion which one man claims and exercises
over the external things of the world, in total
exclusion of the right of any other individual
in the universe. It consists in the free use, enjoyment
and disposal of all a person's acquisitions,
without any control or diminution save
only by the laws of the land. 1 Bl. Comm. 138;
2 Bl. Comm. 2, 15.
The word is also commonly used to denote
any external object over which, the right of
property is exercised. In this sense i t is a
very wide term, and includes every class of
acquisitions which a man can own or have
an interest in. See Scranton v. Wheeler, 179
D. S. 141, 21 Sup. C t 48, 45 L. Ed. 126; Lawrence
v. Hennessey, 165 Mo. 659, 65 S. W.
717; Boston & L. R. Corp. v. Salem & L. R.
Co., 2 Gray (Mass.), 35; National Tel. News
Co. v. Western Union Tel. Co., 119 Fed. 294,
56 C. C. A. 198, 60 L. R. A. 805; Hamilton v.
Rathbone, 175 U. S. 414, 20 Sup. Ct. 155, 44
L. Ed. 219; Stanton v. Lewis, 26 Conn. 449;
Wilson v. Ward Lumber Co. (C. C.) 67 Fed.
674.

[David Merrill]

My Patroon ancestor also built a Manhattan estate with a large stone wall that became the namesake for Wall Street. I wonder if I can ties his plantings into 55 Water Street some time too!

[walter]

my "driver license" and "birth certificate" says no such thing upon it............
Although a license is a "priviledge" which can be revoked at any time.........
A birth certificate admits residence, "res", which then confers or admits citizenship
citizenship can be revoked, changed.........




FIRST YOU MUST GIVE THEM (the State),"LICENSE" TO TRESSPASS ON YOUR RIGHTS, (at least here in the U.S., dont know about the great white north)...............




QUESTION: WHO BENIFITS FROM THE REGISTRATION ??------ BENIFICIAL USER ????





Why are you mixing birth certificates with land titles i dont see the connect ........

1.
in canada it says on the back of the DL that the DL is the property of the issuing state and must be returned upon request,
check out a passport closely because in fine print somewhere it has it on it to,
if you were born on the land of the country claiming it then nationality can only be revoked by your request,
you do not want to be stateless,

Article 15.

(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.


notice they don't say citizenship but nationality?


2.
not necessary a license to trespass on your "right", more of a jurisdiction traverse,
exchange of rights, different worlds, different status,

Article 2.

"Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty."

notice the highlighted "birth or other status" ?


3.
first your parents benefit from the birth being registered when they apply for the BC,
its the carrot being dangled in front of their face,
the state says if you want baby bonus checks, health care, income tax dependent deduction, etc, then you must first have a BC,
the jurisdiction hop, move from one side of the fence to the other because the grass looks greener on the other side,

then the state benefits from charging the account with statutes,
usufruct,
both sides are using the NAME,

4.
the BC, DL and land titles are all registered the same way, a trust agreement in title splitting,





@ DM
that's is an interesting book you posted,