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    This is what TrustGuy was talking about


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    The U.S. Constitution is a PUBLIC TRUST.
    The U.S. Constitution is a CHARITABLE TRUST.

    The body of "the People of the United States" was unascertained, uncertain, and fluctuating with regard to its individual members.
    It was intended for a portion or class of the public community.

    Government of the United States is the TRUSTEE.
    The Constitution of the United States is also a POWER OF ATTORNEY document.

    Note in the preamble of the Constitution it states in part:

    "... and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, ...."

    The FOUNDERS (SETTLORS) made themselves and their descendants BENEFICIARIES of the Constitution of the United States.

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    Trust Law from Wikipedia:

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    In the United States, the settlor is also called the trustor, grantor, donor or creator. In some other jurisdictions, the settlor may also be known as the "founder".

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    Is this why the founders of the U.S. Constitution are called the FOUNDING FATHERS?

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    CESTUI QUE TRUST also known as cestui que use

    cestui que trust n. (properly pronounced ses-tee kay, but lawyers popularly pronounce it setty kay) from old French. 1) an old fashioned expression for the beneficiary of a trust. 2) "the one who trusts" or the person who will benefit from the trust and will receive payments or a future distribution from the trust's assets. (See: beneficiary)

    CESTUI QUE TRUST, A barbarous phrase, to signify the beneficiary of an estate held in trust. He for whose benefit another person is enfeoffed or seised of land or tenements, or is possessed of personal property. The cestui que trust is entitled to receive the rents and profits of the land; he may direct such conveyances, consistent with the trust, deed or will, as he shall choose, and the trustee (q.v.) is bound to execute them: he may defend his title in the name of the trustee. 1 Cruise, Dig. tit. 12, c. 4, s. 4; vide Vin. Ab. Trust, U, W, X, and Y 1 Vern. 14; Dane's Ab. Index, h.t.: 1 Story, Eq. Jur. Sec. 321, note 1; Bouv. Inst. Index, h.t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    The U.S. Constitution is a PUBLIC TRUST.
    The U.S. Constitution is a CHARITABLE TRUST.

    The body of "the People of the United States" was unascertained, uncertain, and fluctuating with regard to its individual members.
    It was intended for a portion or class of the public community.

    Government of the United States is the TRUSTEE.
    The Constitution of the United States is also a POWER OF ATTORNEY document.

    Note in the preamble of the Constitution it states in part:

    "... and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, ...."

    The FOUNDERS (SETTLORS) made themselves and their descendants BENEFICIARIES of the Constitution of the United States.

    Yes, Yes, Yes....you have it, in my opinion. But then again, you have had it for a long time now. I like to consider the Constitution as a BUSINESS PLAN. Consider that there existed a union of States - but these States were actually Sovereign Nation States. The interesting thing was that these Sovereigns united in Confederation [Agreement] which is called the Articles of Confederation - it is essentially a union. The commercial ventures were Chartered by the King in England and as such, these had Head Rents to pay to the King. But in fact they [the States] were not performing on their duty to the King.

    As such, I believe it was about 55 +/- men who pledged their estates as Surety to COVER the debts of the Confederacy. And it was these Founders who were OF a new Thing [United States] they were a Special People of the United States. And these pledged their assets in case their Commercial Venture failed. So then, they did the thing for "Ourselves and our Heirs". And they created a Business Plan by which the people of the States might repay the debt wherein said debt was Securitized by the Estates of the 55. The people of the states became Constitutors.

    I like your model of Power of Attorney because in fact the United States or the People thereof, created a "more perfect Union" which was, in a sense, a super State, whereby the Government of the United States is Trustee. See that there are many offices in the Government of the United States, but no one person is named so this is not a life trust but an indefinite trust in terms of its existence. See that the 55 People of the United States are the Settlors - therefore, they are Sovereign in terms of its creation. But in fact if one places their trust in another the Trustee has IMMUNITY as long as the Trustee is performing according to the Trust Agreement.

    See how the rogue police officer is fired immediately upon his exposure.

    Charitalbe Trust - you bet - secure the general Welfare
    Ministerial Trust - you bet - we do Ordain

    It has always been about Business - Tyre had conquered the World in Business long, long ago. Only Solomon [Israel] exceeded Tyre. Therefore we see Solomon and Hiram in Alliance. International shipping existed around 1200-1000 BC and perhaps before that. So we see the Plantations of America were Commercial Charters - with Shares issued to individual Proprietors. See attachments concerning the Carolinas. One of the original Commercial Interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    I like your model of Power of Attorney ...
    This is from Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Ed.

    Constituere. Lat. To appoint, constitute, establish, ordain, or undertake. Used principally in ancient powers of attorney, and now supplanted by the English word "constitute".
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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    This from Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Ed.
    well, that is what I like about you - no hearsay. Thank you for that.
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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