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    My first steps to redeeming Lawful Money are underway, but I need guidance.

    I stopped by my Credit Union to put the restricted endorsement on my signature card. The branch manager wanted to know why I was requesting such an unusual thing, so I told her. Naturally, she had absolutely NO idea what I was talking about. Befuddled, she wanted the request in writing. I told her I would comply with that.

    The following is the actual text of the letter that I drafted up. It is written by hand. It is yet to be sent, but when I do send it, it's going by way of certified mail with return reciept.

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    I, The Suitor, DBA THE SUITOR, am hereby this letter making my official demand that all withdrawals and deposits, by whatever means, for the accounts opened under my person, are to be redeemed for lawful money pursuant to Title 12 U.S.C. subsection 411. My account signature card needs to reflect the new restricted endorsement. I do not endorse private credit from the Federal Reserve.

    THE SUITOR
    Account #: XXXXXXXXXX

    In good faith,
    The Suitor's true name
    The Suitor's address (-zip)
    Phone #
    Email Address

    Signed, and Dated,

    My Signature, & the date it was signed
    (NOTARIZED IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK)


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    After it was notarized, I stopped by the courthouse to open an evidence repository, but was unsuccesful. None of the clerks had any idea what I was talking about. Apparently opening an evidence repository is extremely uncommon.

    Before I send this letter to the Credit Union, I would like to first enter it into an evidence repository, but I need help on this part.

    Am I doing this all correctly? I feel like such a novice. I think the following adage is appropriate: "We only learn new things when we step outside of our comfort zone"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebasedCurrency View Post
    I stopped by my Credit Union to put the restricted endorsement on my signature card. The branch manager wanted to know why I was requesting such an unusual thing, so I told her. Naturally, she had absolutely NO idea what I was talking about. Befuddled, she wanted the request in writing. I told her I would comply with that.

    The following is the actual text of the letter that I drafted up. It is written by hand. It is yet to be sent, but when I do send it, it's going by way of certified mail with return reciept.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I, The Suitor, DBA THE SUITOR, am hereby this letter making my official demand that all withdrawals and deposits, by whatever means, for the accounts opened under my person, are to be redeemed for lawful money pursuant to Title 12 U.S.C. subsection 411. My account signature card needs to reflect the new restricted endorsement. I do not endorse private credit from the Federal Reserve.

    THE SUITOR
    Account #: XXXXXXXXXX

    In good faith,
    The Suitor's true name
    The Suitor's address (-zip)
    Phone #
    Email Address

    Signed, and Dated,

    My Signature, & the date it was signed
    (NOTARIZED IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK)


    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    After it was notarized, I stopped by the courthouse to open an evidence repository, but was unsuccesful. None of the clerks had any idea what I was talking about. Apparently opening an evidence repository is extremely uncommon.

    Before I send this letter to the Credit Union, I would like to first enter it into an evidence repository, but I need help on this part.

    Am I doing this all correctly? I feel like such a novice. I think the following adage is appropriate: "We only learn new things when we step outside of our comfort zone"
    Basically you have been conditioned to be subservient.

    You just want to correct your signature. That is all. You do not need to request to correct your signature. The non-endorsement is part of your signature now. You want to integrate your demand for lawful money into your signature.

    The clerks at the federal courthouses are becoming tight about opening Miscellaneous Case files ($46). The Fed banks seem to have shut down to professional process servers too. It is inconvenient but an affidavit of due diligence (attempt to serve) works as well. What all this shows is that we have the same inherent right to redeem lawful money demonstrated in MILAM:


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    I've made great strides to break the bonds that hold me, or at least change my attitude to one of non-acceptance.
    I can see the matrix for what it is now.

    If you read the letter carefully, I am not asking for permission; I am exercising my Right.

    I feel the letter serves a dual purpose; It is my official demand as required in 12USC411, which will be on record at the court house, and it is also a way to get my signature card changed.

    I want my signature card changed as notification to my Credit Union that they are dealing with an inelastic money, and cannot use my monies as reserves for fractional reserve lending. I prefer to give them a heads up.

    Perhaps I was asking the wrong question. I'll have to try opening a Miscellaneous Case file instead. Thanks.

    Also, I comprehend the importance of the Milam case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebasedCurrency View Post
    I've made great strides to break the bonds that hold me, or at least change my attitude to one of non-acceptance.
    I can see the matrix for what it is now.

    If you read the letter carefully, I am not asking for permission; I am exercising my Right.

    I feel the letter serves a dual purpose; It is my official demand as required in 12USC411, which will be on record at the court house, and it is also a way to get my signature card changed.

    I want my signature card changed as notification to my Credit Union that they are dealing with an inelastic money, and cannot use my monies as reserves for fractional reserve lending. I prefer to give them a heads up.

    Perhaps I was asking the wrong question. I'll have to try opening a Miscellaneous Case file instead. Thanks.

    Also, I comprehend the importance of the Milam case.
    You are doing far more than most. I apologize for coming off critical. You are doing great; thanks for explaining your objectives. I don't know why I did not see it as record-forming.

    If you can manage it get the $46 withdrawn by demanded lawful money like below, when it was $39:


    Go do that at your bank so that the manager might better understand when you show a certified copy from the USDC. It will have that Demand on it from her bank.

    Next, suitors are indicating that the US clerks of court are becoming unwilling to open Miscellaneous Case files for evidence repositories. You might be better to hire a professional process server to go file it for you. Give him the money and basic instructions and the clerk will likely file it because he will be recording testimony.



    Regards,

    David Merrill.

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    Thank you for the compliments.

    I'll go to the Credit Union today to withdraw the $46 in Lawful Money to open the Misc. Case File.

    I know where to go now ...There is a District Court across the river; I was in the wrong Court, making an incorrect demand.

    I'll enter a copy of that withdrawal into the misc. case file after it's opened. I'll get everything notarized.

    Of note, I also cross through the "the order of" when I write a check. I just started doing it a few checks ago. I'm not forwarding credit anymore; I'm actually paying people.

    I'll try to do this myself without the process server, but if need be I'll go that route.

    Again, thank you,

    Debased

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    IN the MILAM case where it says he was entitled to redeem the note but not entitled to redeem it in precious metal, how do you get that this was to mean entitled to redeem in lawful money or precious metal? To me it reads was entitled to redeem the note only in money or currency that the US borrowed from the federal reserve on their credit.
    Clarification in this matter is appreciated.

    Tom

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    Mr. Merrill
    I did as you told us all to do. I went to a bank today and I told them I want to open a non-bearing interest checking account.
    The lady told me she could do that for me. I then told her that my practice in all business contracts was to get copies of everything I signed.
    She told me she couldn’t give me copies. I told her than we wouldn’t be able to do business.
    She told me she would talk to her manager. She came back and told me her manager said I could get copies.
    To make things short, when
    it got time for to sign the signature card , I pulled out two stamps.
    The first had “all transaction and deposits demanded in lawful money pursuant to 12 USC sec 411.I stamped the signature card with it.
    The second stamp had my signature (true name in cursor First and Middle only) and below it “dba lawful name all in caps) and stamp that below true name.
    She asked me what those extra stamps was for? I told her it was to stop taxation on by benefits. That’s why I was asking for no interest bearing accounts. She didn’t question me any more.
    I saw I was being lucky, so I opened a second account and did exactly the same on the second signature card. Then I asked to transfer my social security account from another bank to her bankand she did do so. I Signed that signature card.
    I stamp the checks on the back Demanding lawful money pursuant to 12USC sec 411 signed true name and dba all caps my lawful name.
    I cashed all my checks got copies of all three signature cards. I also got Copies of all my checks front and back .
    She went to her manager to make sure that my signature would be accepted. Took a while. So I was thinking well here it comes (the denial).
    The Manager came over to her cubicle to talk to me. He said the signature stamp if stolen or lost and some one else came in and used it fraudulentely, I cannot claim my moneys.
    I asked what he wanted me to do he said just sign over the stamped signature in ink pen. So that is what I did. True name(First Middle) and below dba lawful name all in caps).
    However after I got home I discover an error on my part. On the middle paragraph of signature card titled certification: it had paragraphs 1,2, and 3. It’s paragraph “3” I am worried about. It states , “I am a U.S. citizen or other U.S. person (as defined in the form W-9 instructions)
    I have already signed twice on each signaturecard on each of the three accounts. And on all three I forgot to correct this error.
    Actually when they told me to sign my name in ink pen I got another set of 3 copies for that correction in the signature card.
    I plan to go back tomorrow and ask them to call OPM and the VA to put the checks directely into my opened accounts. And ask if another change can be made to signature card. Where it says I am a U.S. Citizen, I plan to strike out the “a” in “I am “a” U.S. Citizen” and write “not” below it.
    If they don’t allow me to alter the signature card then I plan write out an amendment to signature card. Explaining the error. The error being that “I am not a U.S. Citizen or person . and add that that amendment to my bank accounts. I also plan to add IRS cannot inspect my accounts without a Form 6014 signed by me.
    Any better ideas on how to go about doing this are welcome.
    If I cannot change it on my signature card how detrimental will it be to use it in my fight against IRS? And can IRS collect for CTC liabilities owed for past years from my lawful money in my bank accounts?
    Thank you very much. Franco



    Mr. Merrill
    I did as you told us all to do. I went to a bank today and I told them I want to open a non-bearing interest checking account.
    The lady told me she could do that for me. I then told her that my practice in all business contracts was to get copies of everything I signed.
    She told me she couldn’t give me copies. I told her than we wouldn’t be able to do business.
    She told me she would talk to her manager. She came back and told me her manager said I could get copies.
    To make things short, when
    it got time for to sign the signature card , I pulled out two stamps.
    The first had “all transaction and deposits demanded in lawful money pursuant to 12 USC sec 411.I stamped the signature card with it.
    The second stamp had my signature (true name in cursor First and Middle only) and below it “dba lawful name all in caps) and stamp that below true name.
    She asked me what those extra stamps was for? I told her it was to stop taxation on by benefits. That’s why I was asking for no interest bearing accounts. She didn’t question me any more.
    I saw I was being lucky, so I opened a second account and did exactly the same on the second signature card. Then I asked to transfer my social security account from another bank to her bankand she did do so. I Signed that signature card.
    I stamp the checks on the back Demanding lawful money pursuant to 12USC sec 411 signed true name and dba all caps my lawful name.
    I cashed all my checks got copies of all three signature cards. I also got Copies of all my checks front and back .
    She went to her manager to make sure that my signature would be accepted. Took a while. So I was thinking well here it comes (the denial).
    The Manager came over to her cubicle to talk to me. He said the signature stamp if stolen or lost and some one else came in and used it fraudulentely, I cannot claim my moneys.
    I asked what he wanted me to do he said just sign over the stamped signature in ink pen. So that is what I did. True name(First Middle) and below dba lawful name all in caps).
    However after I got home I discover an error on my part. On the middle paragraph of signature card titled certification: it had paragraphs 1,2, and 3. It’s paragraph “3” I am worried about. It states , “I am a U.S. citizen or other U.S. person (as defined in the form W-9 instructions)
    I have already signed twice on each signaturecard on each of the three accounts. And on all three I forgot to correct this error.
    Actually when they told me to sign my name in ink pen I got another set of 3 copies for that correction in the signature card.
    I plan to go back tomorrow and ask them to call OPM and the VA to put the checks directely into my opened accounts. And ask if another change can be made to signature card. Where it says I am a U.S. Citizen, I plan to strike out the “a” in “I am “a” U.S. Citizen” and write “not” below it.
    If they don’t allow me to alter the signature card then I plan write out an amendment to signature card. Explaining the error. The error being that “I am not a U.S. Citizen or person . and add that that amendment to my bank accounts. I also plan to add IRS cannot inspect my accounts without a Form 6014 signed by me.
    Any better ideas on how to go about doing this are welcome.
    If I cannot change it on my signature card how detrimental will it be to use it in my fight against IRS? And can IRS collect for CTC liabilities owed for past years from my lawful money in my bank accounts?
    Thank you very much. Franco

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    Isn't that something! The bank teller would not give you copies of a financial instrument!

    It is of couse a good idea to arrive with a copy in case you get that same teller. I would request in the future and I think they will have corrected that. I think that a teller refusing to give you copies of instruments is inappropriate.

  9. #9
    I stopped in the Credit Union today to withdraw some cash, and the same teller was there; Her and I had a nice chat as the exchange took place. I think she is more receptive to the idea now. She asked me if I was studying to be a lawyer. Haha.

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    I have a question please forgive if this is the wrong thread for this. I have not had a bank acct in over 8 years due to IRS issues. I currently cash my paychecks directly at the credit union from which they are drawn and take the money with me. My question is, is there any reason legally or otherwise that I can not or should not immediately start demanding lawful money when I cash these? As I am new to this process I do not yet have an evidence repository but would like to start dealing in lawful money and start creating a record with the photocopied checks. So far in what I've read on the site everything involving the banks centered around the signature card statement. As I have no acct I'm a little confused as whether or not it makes any difference.

    Thank you for your time and consideration.
    Rick

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