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    The ego fears the loss of identity (death). The fear of loss instigates attack and belligerence.

    I hope this is properly timed to the thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumpkin View Post
    "One who keeps the peace does so not only for others, but also for himself."

    I have thought about this. When they argue against me and my rights, they argue against themselves and their rights, their friend's rights, their family's rights, including children and grandchildren. They have to be dumb as dirt not to realize this.
    Just remember once someone begins to Understand [stand surety] for FRS or central banking scheme there is a quasi-contract in UNDERTAKING. Thusly the constitutions war against that one as he sold himself of his own free will. Art 1 Sec 10 fights against that one. So the court is just upholding contractual duties and obligations. So if a man enter into a contract he does it to himself.

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  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Just remember once someone begins to Understand [stand surety] for FRS or central banking scheme there is a quasi-contract in UNDERTAKING. Thusly the constitutions war against that one as he sold himself of his own free will. Art 1 Sec 10 fights against that one. So the court is just upholding contractual duties and obligations. So if a man enter into a contract he does it to himself.

    Pain can be a wonderful teacher for those who have eyes to see.
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  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by pumpkin View Post

    Any equity jurisdiction should be challenged at once. If someone would like to bring you into equity (into the consciousness of the cross dresser in the black dress), make him provide the document for the express trust, or provide the basis for a constructive trust. Or you will be subjected to the discretion of the cross dresser in the high chair.
    This statement raises a false dilemma in that equity jurisdiction is invoked on a far wider basis than trusts merely, whether express or implied by law. Off the top of my head in the exclusive jurisdiction alone there are also suits for specific performance, fraud (actual and constructive), accounting, receivership, mistake, accident, equitable liens, foreclosure (barring the mortgagor's equity of redemption), rescission & reformation of instruments, bankruptcy and probably a bunch I can't remember right now.

    Express trusts don't require anything in writing. They can be orally expressed or better yet expressed simply by the conduct of the parties...this would require asking a chancellor for declaratory relief at a hearing to establish the validity of the trust one wishes to express.
    Last edited by ohiofoiarequest; 12-25-15 at 03:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    The ego fears the loss of identity (death). The fear of loss instigates attack and belligerence.

    I hope this is properly timed to the thread...
    Care to elucidate a bit more on your thoughts here? I wasn't able to draw any meaning from what you linked other than the P-Appellant's statement concerning his reason for instigating the action..typical grasping-for-straws action instigated by disgruntled mortgagor who wasn't able to perform their undertaking or remedy the default? Or something I'm missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    You have the right to an attorney, or to represent yourself or to waive those rights. Which of the three rights do you accept? A rational thinking man or woman must at once ask : Whereof do these rights issue?

    If one is told from UNDER an existing contract, then one must ask: Am I a part to that contract? If not, one must ask: If I accept this benefit of law, are there strings attached? And these "grants" made under an existing contract does that mean if I accept and make a use of said grant does that make me a grantee/trustee?

    If those rights are derived from UNDER an existing contract - of which I am not a party of or to - then, does that mean I am a "protected person" or is there a Wardship?

    My trust is implied by mere use - my trust is expressed by signature....

    And God said
    And God saw
    And God called

    To speak the trust - deed: OBSERVATION which is consciousness acting : And God called [Declaration].

    One may explore resulting trust with the framing of money- but then again if one expands consciousness into any medium of value, then one can explore all sorts of property even incorporeal property such as rights. When one begins to see with new eyes, then one begins to get a better hold upon "resulting trust".

    And then one becomes aware of how valuable one's trust is. My trust expressed has tremendous value. If you want to get a handle on the foregoing just talk to a lawyer and specifically begin to ask questions. At some point if you press in too much, the response will invariable be "I have no trust IN YOU".

    A trust pledged is Faith in operation! But now back to beginnings: Which right do you think I should make a use?


    Isa 36:4 And Rabshakeh said unto them, Say ye now to Hezekiah, Thus saith the great king, the king of Assyria, What confidence is this wherein thou trustest?

    Isa 36:5 I say, sayest thou, (but they are but vain words) I have counsel and strength for war: now on whom dost thou trust, that thou rebellest against me?

    Isa 36:6 Lo, thou trustest in the staff of this broken reed, on Egypt; whereon if a man lean, it will go into his hand, and pierce it: so is Pharaoh king of Egypt to all that trust in him.

    Isa 36:7 But if thou say to me, We trust in the LORD our God: is it not he, whose high places and whose altars Hezekiah hath taken away, and said to Judah and to Jerusalem, Ye shall worship before this altar?

    Isa 36:8 Now therefore give pledges, I pray thee, to my master the king of Assyria, and I will give thee two thousand horses, if thou be able on thy part to set riders upon them.

    What if I don't wish to choose? Thank you but no thank you. My carnal mind [Pharoah] deceives me. It is enmity against God. Let me therefore work this day to discover the Inner Trust - to pledge to remove the baggage in my Shadow. I am immediately reminded of the warning to those who seek the Day of the Lord. It is a day of great darkness. There is much work to be done in each of us [especially me]. Let us go about the work to clean out the skeletons locked away in the Shadow.

    Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

    Amo 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.

    Amo 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

    For a trust pledged could imply UNDERTAKING - a promise - of which one Voluntarily binds one's self into duty to another [Public]. The consideration for any undertaking is Statute. For it is the Statute which provides the liability. I ask the question in jest: "Does a Statute need to be written not to steal for one to know it is not good to steal?" If you say no, then why lean on Egypt at all?

    An officer of trust elected with proper oath sits subject to the bylaws [liabilities upon his office]. One who is not elected or appointed to office must be granted License to Undertake on behalf of the Public or To the Public. He who undertakes promises. Thusly an undertaking is a ONE SIDED contract with the consideration being the liability to the Public Trust - of which- dear reader the Undertaker is also a member! And therefore the undertaking is a benefit upon society!

    There can never be peace when it is kept at the end of a gun!

    And as we wind on down the road
    Our shadows taller than our soul.
    There walks a lady we all know
    Who shines white light and wants to show
    How everything still turns to gold.
    And if you listen very hard
    The tune will come to you at last.
    When all are one and one is all

    To be a rock and not to roll.


    God is not an American! Why has it been lost on many that we are called elohim. A great mystery unfolds right before our very eyes for God is Elohim. And if we be of the same kind - well then, dear reader - you do the math. Perhaps Love shall win the day and the elohim will begin to act not in duty but for what is the good of all. God blessed forever Amen

    Consider now the way of Cain - is Faith based. The way of Abel is Love based! Which do you perceive is better?

    It appears today that Faith [husband] is married to Love [wife] but it should be the other way around. For it is Faith which should submit to Love.
    I will quote from Gibson's book sec. 930.

    Resulting trusts are those which arise where the legal estate is disposed of, or acquired, without bad faith, and under such circumstances that equity infers or assumes that the beneficial interest in said estate is not to go with the legal title. These trusts are sometimes called presumptive trusts, because the law presumes them to be intended by the parties, from the nature and character of the transactions. They are, however, generally called resulting trusts, because the trust is the result which Equity attaches to the particular transaction.
    Resulting trusts arise: 1, when the property is conveyed, or devised, on some trust which fails, in whole or in part ; 2, When land is conveyed to a stranger without any consideration, and without any use, or trust, declared ; 3, Where the property is purchased and the title taken in the name of one person, but the purchase price is paid by another ; and 4, Where the purchaser pays for the land but takes the title, in whole or in part, in the name of another.

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    Resulting trust is all about asking for possession of the legal title. If successful the important question remains..what does one with MJ's "new eyes" do with their newly acquired legal title?

    Can you please provide us with a real world example of how resulting trust would provide a remedy to your granted right to counsel in a criminal matter instead of stating a bunch of seemingly unconnected thoughts in a pontificating manner? Otherwise the poster's stated content is spurious at best and provides nothing of practical USE.

    If you want to get a handle on the foregoing just talk to a lawyer and specifically begin to ask questions. At some point if you press in too much, the response will invariable be "I have no trust IN YOU".
    Invariable response? How did you come to those results...or should I just trust your word for it?
    Last edited by ohiofoiarequest; 12-25-15 at 05:29 AM.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Just remember once someone begins to Understand [stand surety] for FRS or central banking scheme there is a quasi-contract in UNDERTAKING. Thusly the constitutions war against that one as he sold himself of his own free will. Art 1 Sec 10 fights against that one. So the court is just upholding contractual duties and obligations. So if a man enter into a contract he does it to himself.

    Pain can be a wonderful teacher for those who have eyes to see.
    And we can all thank whatever sky wizard we pray to that contracts are voidable or reformable for various elements of Fraud, Mistake, etc. Ignorance of a peculiar or specific right is one of many things that can be shown on a properly drafted bill to give the chancellor a reason to come to the ignorant party's aid.

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    Consider now the way of Cain - is Faith based. The way of Abel is Love based....
    ???? Hardly.
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  9. #39
    hi ohiofoiarequest,

    good stuff it seems that you bring with you here. more info and perspective to at the least consider but hopefully much more will come from it.

    the guys are the best of the best IMO so its nice to read words from another out there who can discuss things with them. for me, that seems the only way to get what they discuss. Ive really learned alot from them this way.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohiofoiarequest View Post
    Care to elucidate a bit more on your thoughts here?
    good luck with that one! Ive asked him that dozens of times at least. sometimes its fruitful but I dont bother much anymore.

    hope ya stick around. thanks

    hi pumpkin,

    yes "Govern-mental" exactly, thats the one that really got me started looking at words much differently than before. Ive been heading in a more phonic direction most recently. what sounds are the words composed of? (and why) just seems the right direction. cant trust the spells or much else either so why not see where the sound leads.

    thanks

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    ???? Hardly.
    see.. this right here.. I saw that too (about cain and able) and thought for sure it would get more attention. Im undecided on most things here but more info always seems useful so I love this place!

    thanks
    Last edited by george; 12-25-15 at 06:21 AM.

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