Lawful Money and Ownership

[sam charles]

“It is lawful for a man to hold private property; and it is necessary for the carrying on of human life.” — St. Thomas of Aquinas

[David Merrill]

“It is lawful for a man to hold private property; and it is necessary for the carrying on of human life.” — St. Thomas of Aquinas

I like that citation. I wish I had studied more of St Thomas AQUINAS.

To answer the question I doubt that it is. I recall an episode of the cartoon, King of the Hill. One of the characters had a 4' chain link dog fence and declared his home a new nation. He pulled his flag up on the pole. The results utilized tanks and UN Peacekeeping Forces if I recall. Somehow I think that cartoon episode might be a poignant exploration into the law of nations and private ownership.

The Constitution says something against creating a state within a state.

I think the keys to understanding "private ownership" are found in understanding trust law. IN GOD WE TRUST is on the currency and that ties to SO HELP ME GOD on the oaths of office. This binds (bonds) the behavior of public officials against a payoff by the Treasury - a fidelity bond. If all the officials are bound to the Bills of Rights, that is the social definition of "ownership". If you declare your own survey - (a 4-foot chain link fence) then you have to spend all your time setting on the roof with a rifle. Now you own your home. If you want 911 Emergency phone service, or even if you don't and are in the recognized survey, you are getting the benefit, even around you of that social government service and there goes your ownership in an social compact.

I keep saying something that apparently goes over most people's heads. Or at least I find it keenly interesting and nobody else seems to feel it worth delving into. The Territory of Colorado is a faulty proposition in law. The "law" under girding this Territory is faulty as it never saw a thirty day cure (Book of Daniel) before the Congress adjourned for the War of Rebellion (Civil War). It is the idea of survey we should examine.


Regards

David Merrill.


P.S. In 1994 I read (library) that the Constitution is suspended in the actual theater of war. That was in American Jurisprudence 2d Constitutional Law. I went back and could not find it. I asked after spending a long time looking and discovered that the Volumes get swapped out with new ones and the old ones are offered up cheap in the book store for a bit, then discarded. I lost track of that passage.

[doug555]

Ownership examples in the Scriptures:

Genesis 23 shows how Abraham paid full price for a field to bury Sarah in for 400 shekels of silver, weighed out.

Gen 23:20 - So the field and the cave that is in it, were deeded over to Abraham for a burial site by the sons of Heth.

Notice that this transaction involved lawful money, real substance of silver. We do the same today with lawful money that we demand.

OK, that was in the past... Does ownership concept still apply today, and in the future in the kingdom?

Jer 32 shows that Jeremiah, at the Lord's command, weighed out silver to buy a field, and signed and sealed a deed of purchase, as sign that in the future the same thing will be done again when the Lord restores the fortunes of Judah and Israel in the promised land, as fully explained and promised in Jer 33.

OK, that indicates that ownership exists during the Millemium.

What about in the new heavens and new earth?

Rev 21:6-7 indicates that the overcomers shall inherit all things, and will be very sons of God, drinking from the spring of the water of life without cost.

Rev 22:14 indicates these sons have the RIGHT to the tree of life. Does this indicate an ownership right?

Rev 22:17 again shows they are taking of the water of life without cost.

Gal 4:1 declares "Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything,..."

Lk 20:14 and Mt 21:39 also indicate that the heir is the owner... "But when the vine-growers saw him, they reasoned with one another, saying, 'This is the heir ; let us kill him so that the inheritance will be ours.' "

Mt 17:26 shows that the sons do not have to pay tribute. They are exempt from paying... "without cost".

Js 2:5 declares that the saints are heirs of the kingdom.

Rom 8:16-17 declares "The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ..."

Col 1:16 declares "For by Him [Christ] all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities -all things have been created through Him and for Him."

Jn 16:15 declares "All things that the Father has are Mine ; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you."

Jn 17:10 declares "and all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine ; and I have been glorified in them..."

These scriptures, taken together, lead me to believe that the sons can take of the waters and tree of life without cost because we are fellow-heirs and co-owners with the Messiah who owns all.

I realize this is contrary to the prevailing views of many here, but in the spirit of full disclosure of all of the Scriptures, I present them here for sincere review and consideration.

Ownership carries with it liability, responsibility, accountability. I believe the Father and Son have set us a perfect example of ownership to follow.

Mt 5:48 "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

[Michael Joseph]

Gen 23:20 - So the field and the cave that is in it, were deeded over to Abraham for a burial site by the sons of Heth.


A couple three times the sons of Heth tried to get Abraham to place his confidence in them - We know you are a prince amongst us, what is money between us, go ahead and possess the burial place. Abraham would have none of it.

I imagine perhaps the sons of Heth offered in the gate - in the city place of judgment - Abraham trusts Elohim, not the sons of Heth.

I heard a report years back that when the U.S. went to war against Babylon, I mean IRAQ, the leader at that time, parked some of his jets near a certain cave. He knew that the U.S. would never bomb anything near that cave.

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Gal 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;

Lord
LORD, n.

1. A master; a person possessing supreme power and authority; a ruler; a governor.

Man over man he made not lord.

But now I was the lord of this fair mansion.

2. A tyrant; an oppressive ruler.

3. A husband.

I oft in bitterness of soul deplores my absent daughter, and my dearer lord.

My lord also being old. Gen 18.

4. A baron; the proprietor of a manor; as the lord of the manor.

5. A nobleman; a title of honor in Great Britain given to those who are noble by birth or creation; a peer of the realm, including dukes, marquises, earls, viscounts and barons. Archbishops and bishops also, as members of the house of lords, are lords of parliament. Thus we say, lords temporal and spiritual. By courtesy also the title is given to the sons of dukes and marquises, and to the eldest sons of earls.

6. An honorary title bestowed on certain official characters; as lord advocate, lord chamberlain, lord chancellor, lord chief justice, &c.

7. In scripture, the Supreme Being; Jehovah. When Lord, in the Old Testament, is prints in capitals, it is the translation of JEHOVAH, and so might, with more propriety, be rendered. The word is applied to Christ, Psa 110. Col 3. and to the Holy Spirit, 2 Th 3. As a title of respect, it is applied to kings, Gen 40. 2 Sam 19. to princes and nobles, Gen 42. Dan 4. to a husband, Gen 18. to a prophet, 1 Ki 18. 2 Ki 2. and to a respectable person, Gen 24. Christ is called the Lord of glory, 1 Cor 2. and Lord of lords, Rev 19.

LORD, v.t. To invest with the dignity and privileges of a lord.

LORD, v.i. To domineer; to rule with arbitrary or despotic sway; sometimes followed by over, and sometimes by it, in the manner of a transitive verb.

The whiles she lordeth in licentious bliss.

I see them lording it in London streets.

They lorded over them whom now they serve.


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G2962
kurios
koo'-ree-os

From ?????? kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.

[doug555]

Gal 4:1 declares "Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything,..."


The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon
Owner - Kurios (Greek):

Definition:

"he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lord;
the possessor and disposer of a thing
the owner, one who has control of the person, the master
in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor
is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their master
this title is given to: God, the Messiah

[Michael Joseph]

Gal 4:1 declares "Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything,..."


The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon
Owner - Kurios (Greek):

Definition:

"he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lord;
the possessor and disposer of a thing
the owner, one who has control of the person, the master
in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor
is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their master
this title is given to: God, the Messiah

So now does an owner pay tribute?

[doug555]

So now does an owner pay tribute?

That question has already been answered... Mt 21:24-27

But I am sure you already know that though, so the real question is: What is your purpose for asking it?

It appears the Messiah, who is in charge of all, has put that question and answer - and OUR CHOICE - right in front of us every day, every time we look at a FRN with the 2 seals on it.

It is our choice, by demand or by default, which image/seal governs the instant transaction.

I choose the RIGHT image/seal, when looking at the face of the front of a FRN, to govern all transactions by writing "lawful money is demanded for all transactions 12 USC 411" on the front of all of my checks and deposit slips.

Thereby I preserve my RIGHT of OWNERSHIP by NOT DELAYING PAYMENT and by paying in lawful substance (the transfer of equitable title to my labor held in Trust in the IN GOD WE TRUST, to the Trustee of same).

Said DELAY is what happens when one uses a FRN, a PROMISE OF FUTURE PAYMENT by the United States, courtesy of the private credit extended by the FRS, which thereby legitimately incurs a usage fee known as taxes or tribute. (Such a DELAY is also a dishonor in Scripture.)

So, then, an Owner can pay the tax/tribute, if he chooses, as the Messiah did it that situation, but truly He, and the sons, are exempt from "taxes/tribute" (private credit usage fees), as He declared, because Owners always PAY - NOT DELAY PAYING - what is owed in every transaction with lawful money of exchange.