Re: Self Determination

[Michael Joseph]

I can experience my Self - Soul all the day long, yet, I cannot prove to you anything about my own experiences they are my own truths - or said another way - true for me and noone else as I cannot prove the existence of my Soul. Is it like a River? A river looks the same from day to day, yet it is composed of different Hydrogen and Oxygen matter at any given time. Therefore while it looks the same it is in fact ever changing. Consider now your Self. It is not static it is dynamic and couple the Eve to the Adam - the Spirit and the soul - one can Create too - by Choice.

Is the act of Creation the act of Self Determination? I think so. A choice to do a thing. The thought first impregnating the mind to think and create. I can conceive it, I can do it.

Which, ironically, is where "opinion" comes in. And, opinion, is where confirmation bias (I call it "conformation" bias) comes in.

Agreed. And that leads to Re- Ligions. And religions lead to separation - dividing the assembly. Who is with the real truth. And said separation is good for those who seek to divide man as that one enjoys the power vested in him by his following. Yet, you cannot escape Origins. I however, leave it up to you to resolve Origins.

If you get a thousand people, you may indeed come up with a thousand different answers, but one prevailing attitude: They all believe they are right, and yet cannot prove it.

Exactly the point. Prove you have a soul. Prove there is a God. Prove you were created. You can't do it, neither can I, yet I experience. And my experiences cannot be proven. Therefore the Self Determination is an outward expression of Choice.

If I choose to Not be Under a certain construct of Laws, will not my actions imply my trust? If the opposite then I am one confused man.

Those questions beg for the creator to make itself known, in a full-disclosure sort of way. Or, said creator can leave said created self in the dark, floundering around, while finding said creation a source of great entertainment, much like the "Truman Show," all while demanding (again according to opinions of interpretation of a sole communication purportedly left behind many centuries ago, with no software upgrades or bug reporting system, or even a help desk number where "users" can get help, especially with connectivity issues: "My blacktooth is not picking up this frequency")

I can only testify that the summons I have issued were returned as "undeliverable."

Here I have no response. As again, out of respect, I refuse to trespass upon you. Absent judgment, I remain upon my own expressions and I refuse to impose my expression upon you absent you asking me for it and engaging me in question or request.

So YHVH just lowered himself by incorporating a name? I don't get the "lowering" by using a name. Why not "raising?" I thought that the "Messiah" was given a name above every name? Wouldn't that be raising, instead of lowering? (Although he wasn't given the name that was prophesied...)


Again, if using a name is "lowering," then how does this apply to us, but not to the "creator?"

Okay, I accept that rationale. Let me re-phrase - who gives issue to the name that men are called? Is it not mom and dad? Who gave issue to the Messiah's name? Was it not the Creator? I believe the Creator said 'you will worship me where I place my name'. Yet that sort of strays from this discourse.

Mom and Dad named me. Yet the State also created a name for me. But noone made me use the State's name. That was my own Choice - my own Self Determination. The State's name belongs to the State. Back to Survey. When the Child was born was there not a Survey upon the Child? Of course there was. And the Survey formed the basis of the new Birth - Trust Certificate. Yet, the Child is still with the ability to Chose his own Self Determination.

All souls belong to YHVH as Creator - then vested in Yehoshua, as Trustee

Response by Methist: Isn't this a claim? I would imagine that you, MJ are the claimant for this thread, anyway, but the ORIGINAL claimant, who is that? Why has the right to cross-examine, or continued communication, ceased?

I admit that is a claim based in part to my lack of knowledge. And based upon the Scripture, which I believe to be truth. Yet, I cannot prove either one to be truth. it is my belief based on experience. Yet, your experiences may be different. So I choose to live and let live. I cannot save you nor you me. So why should I trespass upon you with my belief systems.

Yet, I have studied extensively Origins without - philosophers - and within - my own experiences and my own determinations based on my observations. And I have realized I cannot 1) identify myself and 2) know beyond origins 3) fathom that matter can just become absent an expression of will.

Therefore, I reject that we are absent a Creator. But I think that we can see a glimpse of the Creator in other men - as the Creator dwells with man's spirit.

This is where I get confused, because if the Creator can decide to act against his creation, then why not just a little communication from said Creator? And, further, can said creator write on stone tablets, and on the wall of a palace, but with the most important writing, the one that the purported creation is supposed to rely on for centuries upon end, the same Creator, at the time of such writing, decided to work through "agents" instead of taking time out of his busy schedule of being entertained by his creation...

The logic isn't there for me, nor is the faith, since the logic is so, well, illogical.

I accept that those are your view and beliefs I shall respect them.

Who needs to? I say who I am. Who's stopping me? You've seen judges agree that I can call myself whatever I want, and you've seen them agree that I am the man, rather than the legal name.

But, why do I need their agreement? (or the creator's agreement, although to get response for any reason would be a definite change)

[As a side note, the performance review seems a little late for me also... (It is appointed unto man once to die, and after this the judgment) Couldn't we kinda have a few sessions as we go along, and kinda tweak things, so that the end meeting wouldn't be so one sided?]

Well I see this in another light. I would rather not appear before a judge. Why should I? That is unless I have injured another man or woman or public property. There is no cause to appear. As I do not trust in that. My trust is in the Divine. And my Self Expression is as Priest before Men. Walking in the middle path.

Yet consider the enforcement officer, and his confusion. If you say so what, that's his problem, then enjoy the strife as you will have to deal with his problem. yet there seems to me another way. To Self Express ones position before the fact seems like a better path. But that's just me.

And yet the pope grants such rights to the monarch of London.

The Pope [door] and its Cardinals [hinges for the door] is another thread altogether. Their claim is that they are speaking for God. Therefore the re-write the Scripture and call it a Testament. Acting as Trustee for a Dead Grantor. I find the Pope repugnant. Yet, again, that is for another thread.

I see this dance all the time. Honor is developed and built. Demand for honor, when no honor has been extended, is something that I am adverse with...

Honor is developed and extended to those who render honor to another. If you expressed a new Trust into Existence - a new Society - and you, as Trustee spoke for your estate - then you would be extended honor as you have come to the table with your 'piece of eight'. Else, you might just do nothing and complain about the way you are not honored.

Do I expect the US to honor me? No. Yet, I walk in peace and honor the US by not trespassing upon its jurisdictions and venues.

When I was told not to come back to the courthouse unless I had an appointment, I comprehend. That is a private venue. I was trespassing. And I will not be going into any Court house of the US again, unless I am granted an invitation. And if said invitation is extended, then I shall come speaking for my family and estate as friend of the court to help the court settle the matter before it.

However, in reality, if I should desire I will go where I want to go, because it depends on the Survey and I have just as much right to the Land as another. I AM to the Faithful Son - All that I have is yours.

So therefore, my Self Determination is in the Scripture. Or to be precise is in the Creator. And I walk as an expression of that Determination. Expression of Divine Trust.