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  • Keith Alan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 324

    #16
    Awesome! That will take a little time to digest. Thanks so very much. After reading it one time, I realized I've been wrongly interpreting the phrase, "issued by the discretion of the Board..."

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    • Keith Alan
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 324

      #17
      Originally posted by allodial View Post
      I suspect the one redeeming the bill for value is removing the bill from being Private Federal Clearinghouse Credit to United States Public/Social Credit. Feel free to search books.google.com for information about clearinghouse certificates. Some of the pre-1913 clearinghouse certificates looked an awful lot like Federal Reserve Notes look today.

      Its important to study the fundamentals. The central banks are clearing houses or 'clearing corporations'. AFAIK it is the Federal Reserve Board of Governors issues them *to* the banks and they do not issue Federal Reserve Notes themselves for CIRCULATION (although keep in mind that checks, money orders and the like could be construed to be a form of currency). A 'bank' is a 'store' or a 'resevoir' it is not a generator except perhaps by induction. A piggy bank doesn't generate coins, it is a place for storing them. The currency comes from the U.S. Department of the Treasury not from the Federal Reserve Bank. The Promissory Notes on mortgages are neither issued by the Federal Banks nor by the State Banks. Since banks pass checks and such between each other, they need a common place to settle accounting between each other. That is what the 12 Federal Reserve Banks facilitate. When a 'national' or state bank in Chicago needs to clear a check drawn on or payable through a bank in New York, it must AFAIK use the Federal Reserve System. If the check is local, the mail, a courier or a local (ACH) clearinghouse could be utilized.

      [ATTACH=CONFIG]1461[/ATTACH]



      If you are a FRB member or agent, then you are member or agent of a federal clearinghouse or a federal clearing corporation. If you are dealing with an unredeemed clearinghouse certificate, you're dealing with "(FRB/Casino) House Credit" rather than public money. AFAIK, the Federal Reserve System doesn't make cars, clothes, mobile homes. The Federal Reserve System doesn't even print its own money/currency. The value doesn't come from the bank it goes into or through the bank. The banks are service providers (i.e. accounting, telegraphic, courier and legal services--that's 'bout it).

      Also...



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      Imagine you have a wonderful, wealthy father who has hired a trustee to underwrite your endeavors and to give a guarantee to your payment obligations expressed in lawful money. However, Mr. Stranger crops up and offers you a guarantee too--at a steep price and in the terms of clearinghouse credits. The Mr. Stranger doesn't want to see you prospering and wants you to live a pitiful poor life or to die in a bad way. Naughty-naughty Mr. Stranger knows if you don't express the amount in lawful money, it never triggers the father's guarantee. He also knows and tries to keep it secret that until you redeem the clearinghouse credit for lawful money it wont trigger the father's guarantee. Mr. Stranger knows that you have choice and loves to see you exercise your free will ....

      [ATTACH=CONFIG]1465[/ATTACH]
      ...in the stupidest way possible that helps Mr. Stranger greatly enrich himself. It might be important to note that HJR-192 mentioned dollars* not clearinghouse credits--oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh sneeekayyyy. But aren't you glad at least someone has been paying attention?

      [ATTACH=CONFIG]1464[/ATTACH]Royal Canadian Mint does.

      However, banks do print, sell or exchange: checks, money orders, deposit slips or bank drafts.

      P.S. Consider that the underwriting activity that a state bank or a federal bank might engage in might only ever be with respect to repossessed assets or with respect to abandoned assets. As in if a bank or a bank holding company [two different things] ever issued its own money it would likely only be underwritten by assets that it confiscated or abandoned assets (i.e. repossession, foreclosure, abandonment, 1099-A, plunder, overpayments, etc.--double dipping might however would be more along the lines of extreme usury and plunder). Apart from services provided, banks don't tend to originate anything of value.
      Awesome! That will take some time to difest! Thank you!

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      • Keith Alan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 324

        #18
        Originally posted by allodial View Post
        I suspect the one redeeming the bill for value is removing the bill from being Private Federal Clearinghouse Credit to United States Public/Social Credit. Feel free to search books.google.com for information about clearinghouse certificates. Some of the pre-1913 clearinghouse certificates looked an awful lot like Federal Reserve Notes look today.

        Its important to study the fundamentals. The central banks are clearing houses or 'clearing corporations'. AFAIK it is the Federal Reserve Board of Governors issues them *to* the banks and they do not issue Federal Reserve Notes themselves for CIRCULATION (although keep in mind that checks, money orders and the like could be construed to be a form of currency). A 'bank' is a 'store' or a 'resevoir' it is not a generator except perhaps by induction. A piggy bank doesn't generate coins, it is a place for storing them. The currency comes from the U.S. Department of the Treasury not from the Federal Reserve Bank. The Promissory Notes on mortgages are neither issued by the Federal Banks nor by the State Banks. Since banks pass checks and such between each other, they need a common place to settle accounting between each other. That is what the 12 Federal Reserve Banks facilitate. When a 'national' or state bank in Chicago needs to clear a check drawn on or payable through a bank in New York, it must AFAIK use the Federal Reserve System. If the check is local, the mail, a courier or a local (ACH) clearinghouse could be utilized.

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]1461[/ATTACH]



        If you are a FRB member or agent, then you are member or agent of a federal clearinghouse or a federal clearing corporation. If you are dealing with an unredeemed clearinghouse certificate, you're dealing with "(FRB/Casino) House Credit" rather than public money. AFAIK, the Federal Reserve System doesn't make cars, clothes, mobile homes. The Federal Reserve System doesn't even print its own money/currency. The value doesn't come from the bank it goes into or through the bank. The banks are service providers (i.e. accounting, telegraphic, courier and legal services--that's 'bout it).

        Also...



        [ATTACH=CONFIG]1463[/ATTACH]
        Imagine you have a wonderful, wealthy father who has hired a trustee to underwrite your endeavors and to give a guarantee to your payment obligations expressed in lawful money. However, Mr. Stranger crops up and offers you a guarantee too--at a steep price and in the terms of clearinghouse credits. The Mr. Stranger doesn't want to see you prospering and wants you to live a pitiful poor life or to die in a bad way. Naughty-naughty Mr. Stranger knows if you don't express the amount in lawful money, it never triggers the father's guarantee. He also knows and tries to keep it secret that until you redeem the clearinghouse credit for lawful money it wont trigger the father's guarantee. Mr. Stranger knows that you have choice and loves to see you exercise your free will ....

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]1465[/ATTACH]
        ...in the stupidest way possible that helps Mr. Stranger greatly enrich himself. It might be important to note that HJR-192 mentioned dollars* not clearinghouse credits--oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhh sneeekayyyy. But aren't you glad at least someone has been paying attention?

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]1464[/ATTACH]Royal Canadian Mint does.

        However, banks do print, sell or exchange: checks, money orders, deposit slips or bank drafts.

        P.S. Consider that the underwriting activity that a state bank or a federal bank might engage in might only ever be with respect to repossessed assets or with respect to abandoned assets. As in if a bank or a bank holding company [two different things] ever issued its own money it would likely only be underwritten by assets that it confiscated or abandoned assets (i.e. repossession, foreclosure, abandonment, 1099-A, plunder, overpayments, etc.--double dipping might however would be more along the lines of extreme usury and plunder). Apart from services provided, banks don't tend to originate anything of value.
        Awesome! After thinking about this for a day or two, it occurs that I don't know enough about the actual issue of credit. Or maybe my perception just isn't broad enough yet.

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        • Anthony Joseph

          #19
          Originally posted by allodial View Post
          Writ of mandamus; acceptance of oath of office. The more one knows about the underlying law, the more effectively or concise one can be with respect to mandamus or the like.

          P.S. it might help if you have someone available to act if the person fails to comply with the mandate --you know kinda like what they do if someone doesn't pay a fine. Shouldn't take too much thought on what government officials could be useful to back you up.

          Related: http://freedom-school.com/acceptance/.
          United States Marshals.

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          • Leo Undelli
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 4

            #20
            Talking to the guns for hire working in Federal Buildings, it was revealed that there are only two (2) Federal Marshalls per State. Not all you see is the truth. I believe your Remedy lies in their forms. Listen to Joe on Angela's calls...http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web...d=39904&cmd=tc EPISODE 223 - Special Guest Speaker Joe; EPISODE 224 - Back by Popular Demand "Joe"; EPISODE 233 - Special Guest Speaker Joe Private Equity Recovery; EPISODE 242 - Special Guest Speaker Joe......also David Merrill is spot on concerning his research......refiling W-4 has stopped all federal withholding with a major manufacturing company.....transcripts from IRS Penn. indicates no taxable income the last 3 years.....filed corrected w-4's back to the 1990's........using the example on this forum.....placed two (2) w-4's on 1 sheet of paper with Notary juriat at bottom, then had Sec of State authenticate all forms with their Certificate.....gave copies to IRS and had IRS file stamp my copies then sent copies to the major manufacturing company....your Remedy lies with the county you sleep in.....California counties have been burned and are ponying up to their duties....other states are behind the curve as suitors have not studied how to enforce their wishes.....NEVER SAY I WANT ONLY "I WISH"....next post will include forms to use for county compliance.......

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            • Leo Undelli
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 4

              #21


              http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf Form for Public Servants who think they are above the law

              http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf Form for county departments who refuse to provide their filed form 990's

              http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f211.pdf Reward for reporting Public Servants who steal from the united States of America

              http://www.unclefed.com/IRS-Forms/ Good source for W-4 forms

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              • Leo Undelli
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 4

                #22
                Counter Deed - (Law) a secret writing which destroys, invalidates, or alters, a public deed. http://tinyurl.com/oo26klj

                Take your Counter Deed and sign in front of four witnesses......have the four witnesses sign the Counter Deed in front of Notary

                I have not tried this yet, but sounds good....thus removing your signature from Notary using witnesses as buffer. Not sure what description of property one uses and what format is included in counter deed.....I use bond paper for important documents.

                Each state's statutes has code similar to the following California Code:

                California GOVERNMENT CODE http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Joe.html
                SECTION 26900

                26900. The auditor shall examine and settle the accounts of any
                persons indebted to the county or holding money payable into the
                county treasury, and shall certify the amount to the treasurer. Upon
                the presentation and filing of the treasurer's receipt therefor, the
                auditor shall give to such person a discharge and charge the
                treasurer with the amount received by him.

                [property tax, child support, etc]

                This is your Remedy for county taking care of your bills issued by the county....counties are all non-profit charity organizations...thus the elusive FORM 990 the counties do not want you to see. The counties EIN numbers are on the FORM 990

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                • David Merrill
                  Administrator
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 5949

                  #23
                  That was where I began.

                  I removed my signatures for all documents at the county clerk and recorder. I could still get that by certified doc if I wanted - even back in what? 1994?

                  Then I signed my approbation to the Survey - otherwise known as the Declaration of Independence. This was done in the form of Matthew THORNTON, who arrived in Pennsylvania in November of 1776 wanting to add his signature.


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                  My approbation is published through the county clerk and recorder. One time of several I went for certified copies and they kept behaving like they could not find it. I told them to call the sheriff to investigate and maybe arrest the clerk. They pretended to look really hard, staring at their computer screens all dumb. I remembered that I had to feed the meter and suddenly took off out the door directly for my car, and the Sheriff's office. I came back after dropping some coins into the meter and there were two copies, all certified and nobody around. I found somebody and the copies were free!

                  It is amusing how and where we can find validations like in your post.
                  www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                  www.bishopcastle.us
                  www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                  • Chex
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1032

                    #24
                    Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                    That was where I began. My approbation is published through the county clerk and recorder. One time of several I went for certified copies and they kept behaving like they could not find it. I told them to call the sheriff to investigate and maybe arrest the clerk. They pretended to look really hard, staring at their computer screens all dumb. I remembered that I had to feed the meter and suddenly took off out the door directly for my car, and the Sheriff's office. I came back after dropping some coins into the meter and there were two copies, all certified and nobody around. I found somebody and the copies were free!
                    Senator Harry Reid
                    One of the biggest public supporters of the Affordable Care Act has reportedly decided that some of his staff should be exempted from the new law.

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                    This picture reminds me of him saying. Got ya, again.

                    His view. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg

                    A spokesman for Louisiana Republican David Vitter told Yahoo News that the senator has introduced the "Show Your Exemption Act," which would require all members of Congress to publicly list which staff members have been exempted.http://news.yahoo.com/harry-reid-exe...192925037.htmlhttp://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/18115
                    "And if I could I surely would Stand on the rock that Moses stood"

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                    • David Merrill
                      Administrator
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5949

                      #25
                      WOW!

                      That is precious information. Thanks!


                      www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                      www.bishopcastle.us
                      www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                      • allodial
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 2866

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
                        The main distinction is whether the "lawful money' is elastic or inelastic. ....the just and proper balances guaranteed by "Father's trust".
                        Simple iron nails might expand or contract in actual size depending on the weather. But the expansion or contraction is 'universal' effecting 'everyone'. Thus you can have universal 'micro-elasticity' and it would be just. Gold might be worth more one day than another, but again its a 'universal' kind of flexibility or elasticity to the extent that the change is 'just' or, rather, 'equitable'.

                        Originally posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
                        All of "Father's trustees" remain silent and in voluntary ignorance.

                        This is probably due to the fact that each of these men and women 'moonlight' for "Mr. Stranger" and prefer said 'moonlighting' over their 'day job'.
                        I have found it best to avoid making presumptions about the trustees. Perhaps they have a gun to their head? Perhaps they are sworn to do nothing unless the heir shows competence. As in perhaps they have a very strict rule for what evidences competence. If the heir hasn't done his homework, they might construe the heir to be sleep/dead/incompetent/insane/'not quite ready'. Alternatively, perhaps the typical office holder is totally clueless. If Father told the heir about system works, why is the heir begging the trustee to teach him? Father can hire 1,000,000 men to repair or maintain different aspects of the Great Machine but you know, the servants might just expect the heir to know more than they do.

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                        Perhaps 'stealing candy from a baby' is code for 'robbing the incompetent heir'?
                        Last edited by allodial; 12-11-13, 04:49 AM.
                        All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                        "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                        "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                        Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                        • Anthony Joseph

                          #27
                          Originally posted by allodial View Post
                          Simple iron nails might expand or contract in actual size depending on the weather. But the expansion or contraction is 'universal' effecting 'everyone'. Thus you can have universal 'micro-elasticity' and it would be just. Gold might be worth more one day than another, but again its a 'universal' kind of flexibility or elasticity to the extent that the change is 'just' or, rather, 'equitable'.



                          I have found it best to avoid making presumptions about the trustees. Perhaps they have a gun to their head? Perhaps they are sworn to do nothing unless the heir shows competence. As in perhaps they have a very strict rule for what evidences competence. If the heir hasn't done his homework, they might construe the heir to be sleep/dead/incompetent/insane/'not quite ready'. Alternatively, perhaps the typical office holder is totally clueless. If Father told the heir about system works, why is the heir begging the trustee to teach him? Father can hire 1,000,000 men to repair or maintain different aspects of the Great Machine but you know, the servants might just expect the heir to know more than they do.

                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]1480[/ATTACH]

                          Perhaps 'stealing candy from a baby' is code for 'robbing the incompetent heir'?
                          Have you shown competence to a knowledgeable and willing trustee who, in turn, performed as is required?

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                          • allodial
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 2866

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Anthony Joseph View Post
                            Have you shown competence to a knowledgeable and willing trustee who, in turn, performed as is required?
                            Of course. In my time, I have seen tax accounts settled, driver licenses unsuspended, felony cases sealed, full immunity honored and supported, licenses issued and much much more.

                            Competence can be shown: [1] by not contradicting oneself, [2] by not asking the public servant to do that which would be unlawful, [3] by making it evident that you know the law, statute, regulation, underlying principles and the lay of the land without contradicting oneself in principle or [4] by not requesting or demanding to contradictory things.

                            Re: competence -> Being exhaustive in one's studies and being footed on unshakable foundations is perhaps key. Taking the time to know what the trustee might be bound to is important. If Father has told the Treasure Room Guardian to hold the valuables and toys and goodies safe and only transfer them for the given price or else the Treasure Room Guardian would be punished, the son doesn't come along and simply take things, the son would leave the Treasure Room Guardian with some remedy. Doesn't the Bible call for one to be a good master? Not being a good master might also be evidence of incompetence. Does the good master put his Treasure Room Guardian in the position of being punished for missing property but allow his sons to take property without remedy. Just an example.

                            Ways to show incompetence: [1] being inconsistent about who or what you are or what role you are playing; [2] showing excessive blind emotionalism to the extent that it ruptures through the document in question; [3] talking or writing too much (kitchen sinking) or too little; [4] revealing your lack of knowledge or wisdom about the topic or matter in question; [5] glaring guffaws such as "I'm not a resident" but having an "address" that clearly shows you to be resident; [6] treating the trustee like an enemy while also expecting the trustee to perform as if not an enemy--if the trustee is truly an enemy then he should be removed from office not expected to perform honorably right?; [7] trading or dealing with the enemy as if he were your friend or trading or dealing with the enemy at all; [8] making requests from or begging to inferiors; [9] arguing with inferiors.

                            Rather than being blind angry or hyper-emotional, it has proven far more effective and important to ask and to knock on the Door for remedy. Believe me: I have been injured, attacked, kidnapped and more. But am I angry? No. Was I angry at some point? Yes. Anger can be a healthy motivator to get er done but I don't suspect anger to be a good ultimate inspiration. Believe me, the Adversary has at some point had to deal with regret. Anger shouldn't cause a shift away from principled foundations.

                            Someone once told me about HALT. They say to make self-assessments regularly: [H]ungry, [A]ngry, [L]onely, [T]ired. If you are ever all in the state of all of the above or nearly so then halt--stop...cool your boots. Pray, gather your senses to avoid getting into a blindly destructive cycle or more. With law and the like I find to always be important to focus on the Greater Good for oneself and for others as being of great import. When such directs and inspires what you do, I would question whether there be any judge, military, weapon, tyrant or power on the planet that can steadfastly resist such.

                            ***

                            One thing that some might do well to get a grip on is that the trustees might often be allergic to liability. If you want a state officer to handle a given matter, you want them to be competent enough to do so and typically the higher level officers are trained adequately or reasonably so: attorney general, secretary of state, minister or director of revenue, etc. Laying 'burdens' on someone that can't handle isn't 'good master'.
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                            "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                            "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                            Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                            • David Merrill
                              Administrator
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 5949

                              #29
                              Daydreaming I found myself in a scenario related to arraignment. The judge was badgering me about being in the State of Colorado. [Of meaning Issuance.] The Great Seal is more often than not part of my signature as I am trustee of the resulting trust.

                              The breach of trust that created the opportunity for me is that in 1861 instead of forming the Territory of Colorado, execution of law formed more like a War Chest out of the gold claims here. However everybody trundles along, everybody but David Merrill anyway, thinking that there actually exists a State of Colorado here.

                              This leads me into thinking about "They" in the remedy. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand...
                              www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                              www.bishopcastle.us
                              www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                              • allodial
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 2866

                                #30


                                As in: we can stop (bind) or avoid the licensing of bondage to the illusion. We can license and permit (loose) good things. But perhaps we might do well to come to the realization that the public servant has had a hard time because of the failure to exercise power by those who may have not realized the power had been theirs to exercise all along?

                                In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God.
                                I tend to agree with the notion that "Government" is not the trustee but instead the office holders are entrusted with Government whether it be for a Casino, for a Bank a State or for a Country Club--some kind of governance, order keeping, promotion of equity, keeping the Peace.

                                Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                                The breach of trust that created the opportunity for me is that in 1861 instead of forming the Territory of Colorado, execution of law formed more like a War Chest out of the gold claims here. However everybody trundles along, everybody but David Merrill anyway, thinking that there actually exists a State of Colorado here.
                                It came to me one day that the breeches of trust may have always been by design as invitations to the sons to "step up to the game". The Injured Sheep in the field that are moaning in pain might be earnestly calling out to the Son.

                                For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (not to be taken out of context but simply illustrative of the nature of the sonship)
                                Open to quite a remarkable interpretation.

                                For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. Romans 8:19-21


                                Maybe redemption has stories to tell
                                Maybe forgiveness is right where you fell
                                Where can you run to escape from yourself?
                                Where you gonna go?
                                Where you gonna go?
                                Salvation is here
                                (From lyrics of the song Dare You to Move, 2:38 mark in the video)
                                Last edited by allodial; 12-11-13, 11:16 PM.
                                All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                                "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                                "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                                Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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