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  • doug555
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 418

    #1

    The BILL is NOT a BILL

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    The BILL is NOT a BILL - The New LAWFUL MONEY Currency!asset credit voucher "coupon" containing the credit amount that we must release/surrender to the Trustee (or agent thereof) by indorsing the BACK of the Bill, writing the demand for lawful money on the FRONT, and then returning it, to accomplish "Merger" for "extinguishment" of the obligation.

    See this folder for more research information.

    When the "dollar" fails, the "bills" will keep coming.

    Just start using "bills" as the new currency, and lawful money, by demand!

    The New LAWFUL MONEY CurrencyThe Way to outdo England without fighting herlawful money account to "draw" their credit from on a monthly basis, based on their current income and needs. Talk about a real stimulus package!!!

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    For more information about this, see:
    http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014...d-bill-remedy/
    http://usufructremedy.blogspot.com/p...ct-letter.html
    http://lawfulmoney.blogspot.com/p/la...-currency.html
    Last edited by doug555; 10-03-14, 08:19 PM.
  • Christopher
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 3

    #2
    have you done this? I am in the process of sending the coupon from passed bills to comcast trying to get a check back from them. And i am sending the coupon for the current to discharge the debt. i will let you know how it works. I have wrote on the front of the past coupons "Redeeming coupon for lawful money of The United States of America" and also on the front "This is not a check". I wrote this is not a check because as i understand the UCC code the coupon also seems to fit the criteria for a check and i don't fell like getting a check fraud charge of any kind. After reading what you posted I am also going to endorse the back

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    • doug555
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 418

      #3
      Originally posted by Christopher View Post
      have you done this? I am in the process of sending the coupon from passed bills to comcast trying to get a check back from them. And i am sending the coupon for the current to discharge the debt. i will let you know how it works. I have wrote on the front of the past coupons "Redeeming coupon for lawful money of The United States of America" and also on the front "This is not a check". I wrote this is not a check because as i understand the UCC code the coupon also seems to fit the criteria for a check and i don't fell like getting a check fraud charge of any kind. After reading what you posted I am also going to endorse the back
      I have not done this yet... I need to create all of the follow-through documents first.

      Please listen to Boris's latest audio on 10/2/14 entitled "National Agenda - Usufructuary Truth"

      Especially at the 0:28, 1:04, 1:11, 1:45 and 1:50 hour:minute marks to get some tips on these.

      I believe Boris still has a fatal flaw because he is not using 12 USC 411 and demanding lawful money for all transactions... hence he is still contracting with the FED and becoming an enemy to the USA.

      BTW: Why are you not using the example indorsement, letter and procedure ?

      Also, have you rebutted on the record the presumption that the INFANT on "your" birth certificate is a decedent so that you are properly authorized (ie., upon your appearance on the record as being alive and thereby vested with reversionary interest in same) to act as General Executor of same's Estate?

      Also, have you gotten it on record that you are demanding lawful money and full discharge for ALL transactions?

      If not, you may be premature in your actions, and may set a bad precedent and muddy the water for others who follow this path.

      Notice that Roger Elvick used to always ask those who sent him a charge "Where is the check?". Boris cited following Elvick in doing an acceptance for honor. My take is that the BILL is a CHECK, or rather a CREDIT VOUCHER, that is an instrument capable of transferring consideration (equitable title to the amount on the BILL). It just needs your indorsement, and, as indorser, under the UCC you have rights to recourse if said instrument is not presented for payment (for deposit to the United States). IMO.


      Prov 24:6
      Last edited by doug555; 10-06-14, 01:26 AM.

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      • allodial
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 2866

        #4
        Originally posted by Christopher View Post
        have you done this? I am in the process of sending the coupon from passed bills to comcast trying to get a check back from them. And i am sending the coupon for the current to discharge the debt. i will let you know how it works. I have wrote on the front of the past coupons "Redeeming coupon for lawful money of The United States of America" and also on the front "This is not a check". I wrote this is not a check because as i understand the UCC code the coupon also seems to fit the criteria for a check and i don't fell like getting a check fraud charge of any kind. After reading what you posted I am also going to endorse the back
        Could it be possible that the voucher stub is an incomplete draft?
        Last edited by allodial; 10-06-14, 03:01 AM.
        All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

        "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
        "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
        Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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        • Michael Joseph
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1596

          #5
          Originally posted by doug555 View Post

          Notice that Roger Elvick used to always ask those who sent him a charge "Where is the check?". Boris cited following Elvick in doing an acceptance for honor. My take is that the BILL is a CHECK, or rather a CREDIT VOUCHER, that is an instrument capable of transferring consideration (equitable title to the amount on the BILL). It just needs your indorsement, and, as indorser, under the UCC you have rights to recourse if said instrument is not presented for payment (for deposit to the United States). IMO.
          Clearly the Legal Title is not in the End User. In fact the Equitable Title may not be in the End User either. For instance Trusts can be formed such as the Mass. Business Trust whereby the Legal and Equitable Titles are BOTH held in the Board of Trustees, which also has the Management of the Estate as well. The Personalty is in the End User which might be avails, profits and proceeds from a bargain and sale.

          If you accept the Person of State is not your creation but it is moved via your will, thus by your will you express your trust as the moving party and as such the moving party is with the liability. This is an UNDERTAKING. A one-sided contract. A promise to perform as it were is an undertaking of sorts.

          Thus the Person of State is completely subject to the Uses Settled by the Creator of the Trust Agreement. So it is simple in my mind. If one has a question concerning the uses of the Person, then one must ask the Administration - else one might be in Rebellion. See this is a double edged sword if you comprehend.

          Regards,
          Michael Joseph
          The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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          • doug555
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 418

            #6
            Originally posted by allodial View Post
            Could it be possible that the voucher stub is an incomplete draft?

            Exactly!

            See Merger.

            And Confusio - Merger -Extinguishment - Discharge.


            Last edited by doug555; 10-06-14, 09:14 AM.

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            • walter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 662

              #7
              Its a defective bill because they don't have "consumer purchase" written on it.
              It becomes defective when NOTICE is given of the defect.

              Has anyone ever tried depositing a "statement" (bill) into a bank account?

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              • allodial
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 2866

                #8
                Originally posted by walter View Post
                Its a defective bill because they don't have "consumer purchase" written on it.
                It becomes defective when NOTICE is given of the defect.

                Has anyone ever tried depositing a "statement" (bill) into a bank account?
                From reports, Amex bills have an associated bank rounting number( probably because Amex is a bank). In the "old days" (banking text books from long ago), where there are vouchers were checks. The idea was that you endorsed them payable to the biller.


                Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                Clearly the Legal Title is not in the End User.
                The bill or notice itself might be considered to be abandoned.
                All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                • walter
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 662

                  #9
                  Originally posted by allodial View Post
                  From reports, Amex bills have an associated bank rounting number( probably because Amex is a bank). In the "old days" (banking text books from long ago), where there are vouchers were checks. The idea was that you endorsed them payable to the biller.
                  In Canada if you send a statement then you must be a member of the Canadian Payment Association.


                  Bill payment Remittances
                  https://www.cdnpay.ca/imis15/eng/FAQ...c-c2203c0218b2

                  Rule H6
                  https://www.cdnpay.ca/imis15/pdf/pdfs_rules/rule_h6.pdf

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                  • doug555
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 418

                    #10
                    Originally posted by walter View Post
                    Its a defective bill because they don't have "consumer purchase" written on it.
                    It becomes defective when NOTICE is given of the defect.

                    Has anyone ever tried depositing a "statement" (bill) into a bank account?
                    This is why I suggest this indorsement.

                    BACK OF PRESENTMENT, 90-DEGREE ANGLE, HAND-PRINTED, BLUE INK:

                    For Deposit Only
                    to the account of
                    United States
                    12 USC 342

                    John Henry Doe



                    This DEPOSIT is the next step... but all of the follow-up documents need to be in place first... based on research in this folder about "Confusio - Merger - Extinguishment - Discharge"

                    And about "indorser's recourse" in this book.

                    Notice that all "statements" demand "payment".

                    Why are we then tendering "promises of payment" known as FRNs?
                    Last edited by doug555; 10-10-14, 09:58 PM.

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                    • doug555
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 418

                      #11
                      Originally posted by doug555 View Post
                      This is why I suggest this indorsement.

                      BACK OF PRESENTMENT, 90-DEGREE ANGLE, HAND-PRINTED, BLUE INK:

                      For Deposit Only
                      to the account of
                      United States
                      12 USC 342

                      John Henry Doe



                      This DEPOSIT is the next step... but all of the follow-up documents need to be in place first... based on research in this folder about "Confusio - Merger - Extinguishment - Discharge"

                      And about "indorser's recourse" in this book.

                      Notice that all "statements" demand "payment".

                      Why are we then tendering "promises of payment" known as FRNs?
                      The Money In Your Bank Account Was Stolen This Morning!

                      Perhaps FRNs and checkbook money will soon not circulate AS MONEY given the report at the above link.

                      This is exactly why the Indorsed Bill Remedy is needed ASAP!

                      In conjunction with the Usufruct Remedy

                      If so, then the only thing left in circulation AS MONEY will be just the BILLS themselves.

                      Why not just indorse, return and enforce them as the negotiable instruments that they truly are?!

                      If dishonored, resurrect McFadden's 1933 charges lodged in the Judiciary.

                      David, would you know how to get a certified copy of those documents?

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                      • doug555
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 418

                        #12
                        A good successful example in Italy of a "Debt-Free Alternative Currency"

                        debt-free alternative currency, called simec, and offered it at an exchange rate of 1-to-1.

                        Simec
                        www.simec.orga committee, with the Professor as the head, to keep the program going.

                        This program needed a wealthy benefactor to get it started (which the government could easily do itself), but it still shows the great potential of debt-free currency to facilitate economic growth and prosperity.
                        P.S. The above is not meant as an endorsement of "Thrive".


                        Also see: The Utopian Country

                        Also see: Indorsed Bill Remedy and Usufruct Currency
                        Last edited by doug555; 11-30-14, 12:47 AM.

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                        • David Merrill
                          Administrator
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5949

                          #13
                          What a great website Doug! I love that slogan:

                          Accessing Your Own Value.
                          www.lawfulmoneytrust.com
                          www.bishopcastle.us
                          www.bishopcastle.mobi

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                          • allodial
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 2866

                            #14
                            Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                            What a great website Doug! I love that slogan:

                            Accessing Your Own Value.
                            Might that have something to do with inheritance?
                            All rights reserved. Without prejudice. No liability assumed. No value assured.

                            "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
                            "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
                            Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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                            • doug555
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 418

                              #15
                              Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
                              What a great website Doug! I love that slogan:

                              Accessing Your Own Value.

                              Originally posted by allodial View Post
                              Might that have something to do with inheritance?
                              You're right!

                              THE Inheritance!

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