Funny your post
#203 should mention that allodial “What if it is instead that John H Doe is at the DMV identified as the person holding the birth certificate?”
I renewed my DL and had my full middle name spelled out on it and never did I ever use it; only had the initial.
I asked where that came from, how did you know that was my middle name?
The DMV person asked me is that your middle name, I said yes but I don’t use it and don’t like it this way, the DMV would not change it.
This had to come from the Secretary of State.
Fluke I think not ………… Maybe it is the Certificate of Incorporation from the Secretary of State?
I agree with george “you and MJ are have interesting conversations and it may not seem like it but I think you both bring out the best in each other, the best useful info anyway.”