Quote Originally Posted by Chex View Post
Funny your post #203 should mention that allodial “What if it is instead that John H Doe is at the DMV identified as the person holding the birth certificate?”

I renewed my DL and had my full middle name spelled out on it and never did I ever use it; only had the initial.

I asked where that came from, how did you know that was my middle name?

The DMV person asked me is that your middle name, I said yes but I don’t use it and don’t like it this way, the DMV would not change it.

This had to come from the Secretary of State.

Fluke I think not ………… Maybe it is the Certificate of Incorporation from the Secretary of State?

I agree with george “you and MJ are have interesting conversations and it may not seem like it but I think you both bring out the best in each other, the best useful info anyway.”
I've noticed more States are starting to use Middle Name spelled out on DLs and IDs. However, the order is still

LAST FIRST MIDDLE

which is not the same name as on the birth certificate.