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    Quote Originally Posted by David Merrill View Post
    DMV and DoR distinction flavors the whole deal with DISTRICT jurisdiction.
    In a system where all of the capital (trees) is underwriting the currency, perhaps only re-venue or fruit can be expected rather than new capital at a certain point in that system.

    The distortion in thinking is that one re-registers the automobile, but simply replies "That is private." when asked what the sale amount is for. What you are talking about is removing plates. Colorado has the same (uniform laws) doctrine of "Last Registered Owner" as far as process goes.
    Well that is the thing, everyone seems to look to the seller to "do it for them" and fail to realize that they can re-assign the property to their tastes at any time. That mindset about being gummed up over "what someone else didn't do" rather than making it so for oneself. No offense, that is what over-feminization (i.e. sans masculinity) of a society does--boys seeing feral moms as role models and diligent dads as dickheads (siding with Esau instead of Jacob).

    As to the amount being private, if its only a transfer of capital without additional revenues (i.e. $0.00) then it should be no tax and in the sense that since a taxable event isn't invoked its not a public matter.

    The point being that I could already be driving the State's automobile, registered as the trustee (for the purpose of settling Charges) in "my" legal or full name, and sell it and re-register it to me (the True Me in Jesus CHRIST, CHRIST Jesus balanced right/left male/female) I AM, for a private amount. I come out, through my shadow material with awakened genome having biblical prophecy (alpha/omega) time being an illusion, actually owning the vehicle. See that there is no property tax? - But fair is responsible so I am still paying for bridges and road use?
    If you say its in the State owned by a resident of the State or of the United States, then that is why the property is seen as the State's. They are presuming the property is from a UN/US transferee to a UN/US transferor. Consider the soundness of a whole society of becoming accustomed to leaving their luggage on the luggage conveyor while they travel (and even when they get back home) and then being unhappy and shouting threats at "the elite" should their stuff disappear from time to time. (Like papers + desk + fan without paperweights or aiming the fan just right, whose fault is it really?)

    Note: there is a state that explains exactly how to deregister certain type of property. I posted the code long ago, so many people ignored it, still asking how to do it. Its related to what you posted. Hint: they had to do something involving themselves and no one else. Too simple maybe?

    When you look at it simply though, you have to create the car to own it.
    I suspect that a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE is really just a certificate of ownership (i.e. suretyship in respect of an automobile). NJ, WA and maybe a few other states are at least honest about that by titling the form application form "Application for Certificate of Ownership" or the like. But if you think about it, its the statement or affidavit of ownership that you are creating by way of the application that they observe as evidence as being sufficient enough to present you with the certificate. In Missouri its an "APPLICATION FOR MISSOURI TITLE AND LICENSE". In New Jersey its "APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF OWNERSHIP". What some people might miss is that the application (and not just the bill of sale + signed-over certificate of title) itself is evidence of ownership that the applicant makes himself.

    A key point is that in Missouri you are led to believe that you are requesting title when really on the application you are asserting ownership of the vehicle (i.e. creating evidence), which they use as evidence in support of issuing tags and a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE. So you think they gave you the title when what they really did is certify your certification of ownership. (For a real learning experience, lurk in forums where those guys buy military surplus vehicles and get SF-97 and the process they have to go through to get a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE from a state--the SF-97 is equivalent of an MCO or MSO).

    In other words, it seems quite clear title is abstract, its not necessarily something you hold in your hands. You can hold evidence of title in your head or in your hands or under your tongue I suppose? The description of the thing isn't the thing itself. If you want it in reality, then who has to make that happen?

    If you keep the Creator of the car out there, then the Creator of the car owns the car - out there.
    If you ignore that real men created the car (instead believing the lie that GM made it or some faceless, lifeless, cartoon character made it), then you keep it out there in la-la land too. At one point I realized one thing is that is sold is the opportunity to be thankless and pretend like things don't come from other men or from God to the sense that you can simply buy things without any thanks or attribution to an man somewhere that labored. To be honest, I suspect women like to be able to purchase things without recognizing some man labored to produce it--its an ego thing, having no one to thank even if sweat and fingerprints are all over it. Thusly, selling fictions is big business. Lies as as bribe-gifts to stay asleep.

    IS THE STATE YOUR GOD?
    If in God we live, and move, and have our being, how could I possibly live in the State?
    Last edited by allodial; 11-22-15 at 03:02 PM.
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