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  • Michael Joseph
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1596

    #16
    Originally posted by george View Post
    what is? i was hoping to see it unfold in realtime like you did it n the past but seems to be a few notches higher powered than before too. the bits and pieces of news is better than nothing though. hopefully there will be a successful disclosure here at some point.

    it is exciting stuff even from a distance, cant imagine how intense it gets for you. I dont doubt you at all but am concerned because I havnt seen anyone dealing with the system as head on as you seem to be!

    obviously I tune in to many others in an effort to figure things out. I dont carry much guilt but I will admit that fear drives me in these studys. I want to overcome it! Ive never been in trouble and only in a courtroom once and it was by my uninformed choice to argue a traffic ticket. I have been around long enough to see how things are getting more difficult and aggressive with the system. I dont like BEING a number and I am searching hard on how to overcome that. Yes, I can see the future this way so I do my best to learn how to change it. driven by fear, tired of it but its up to god whether I ever figure it out enough. i suppose that in a way that is the fear of god really but seems like my creator need not be feared.


    google just doesnt feel right to me.. hard to explain and obviously not the same for most. havnt caved for the facebook trend ever but may have to check out legal deceptions pusblishments there by proxy at some point if they keep keeping it real like they have with the talkshoes.


    I'll hava listen to the madmans talkshoe youve posted MJ, hopefully it has something for me to work with.

    sometimes I think both you guys are the best ever, sometimes I think your both secret agents of some sort, sometimes I think your both just full of crazy. but overall, Im still here reading and paying attention so im still undecided.. not looking for proof.. something else.

    I think y'all are onto certainly something though just not sure what it could be. I'll keep working on myself and try to step it up even more so please forgive me for being me and not something else if needed. not trying to cause any harm loss or injury, just working with what Ive got and y'all certainly dont make that easy here.


    thanks
    The Word - Scripture is so wonderful - but also remember that the same knowledges have been also related in many many other sources Ref Acts 17:28 and Romans 1:20. This is a time of experience. You must experience. Thusly what is for me is for me and thusly what is for you is for you.

    Consider again Genesis again.

    verse one. and do check me out....

    Gen 1:1 In the beginning Elohim [God] (prepared, formed, fashioned, and) created the Heavens and the earth. (Perfect, complete and to be Inhabited).

    Comment: At once there is also something missing in this better translation. The term Aleph-Tav exists in the Hebrew but is not rendered in the English. Who is the Aleph-Tav? Aleph is the First and Tav the Last. Of course if the question is phrased Who then the answer is Christ. But WHAT is Christ? Well the same Scriptures define Christ as the WISDOM and POWER of God. Now also, look again the Hebrew does not relate Heaven [singular] but Heavens [plural]. This comports exactly with Deuteronomy. And many many other sources in Scripture. Now lets proceed to verse 2.

    But before we proceed lets frame or look at Scripture - especially this chapter as the re-establishment of man. Or the renewing of the Earth. Thusly Gen 1 is about bringing the natural man - a brute beast - into the status of a spiritual man - 6th day man.

    Now on to verse 2.

    Gen 1:2 Chaotic Earth
    *And the earth became waste, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep (Frozen Ice). And the Spirit of God moved (hovering, brooding); [the beginning of the heavens and earth which are now] upon the face of the waters. [Melted Ice]


    Comment: I left in the physical parameters but try to stay on consciousness. Isaiah relates that in a former time "children" were raised up and they rebelled but now we see that the Earth [base consciousness] AND actual physical Earth is now laid waste. The physical deed was approximately 12-13k years back. But don't get bogged down in physical because that generally does not lead to any growth in the actual being. Remember the prayer Jesus taught to pray - Thy Will be done IN Heaven and IN Earth. This is perfect haromony in man. For the Kingdom of God is WITHIN you.

    In other words, it is God's Work IN man to bring man to the status of Christ. Now should we accept that the Earth was FIRST formed void and without form as many have incorrectly assumed? If so then nullify the Scriptures for there is a huge problem.

    Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD The Creator of the heavens; God Himself The Former of the earth and The Maker of it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

    Comment: So which is it? Was the Earth [base consciousness] created to be void or was it to be inhabited by the sons and daughters [thoughts and desires] of God? Which is it? Well the answer lies in the verb hayah which is translated "was" and many have taken that to be the original state of being. But if one considers that Genesis 1 is NOT the beginning of Scripture then the understanding comes. John 1:1 is the beginning.

    Now then DARKNESS was on the face of the deep. Better said IGNORANCE. For in ignorance there lies confusion and a state of NOT KNOWING TRUTH. But when the Sun of Righteousness arises in Light then comes Truth and the REAL Baptism in Truth. And we see Jesus relating "ye shall know THE TRUTH and the truth shall set you free." Thusly one who walks in ignorance walks in sin! And how great is this sin if one is WILLINGLY ignorant.

    In the former state there was innocence. Thusly in a state of innocence there is no conscience. Therefore we see at Gen 1:3:

    Gen 1:3 Recreated Earth
    *And God said, "Let there become light:" and there became light.

    Comment: Here now is the state of experience where man will experience "good and evil" so that knowing can develop and thusly a conscience.

    And now we later find when God has worked in man to bring "a" being into a 6th day Man status that we find the following verse:

    Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."


    Comment: The spiritual Man is not judged of men but of God. But this man has not yet come to the 7th day status of rest [Sabbath]. The natural man, who is as a gentile, tramples upon these truths in darkness - merely keeping a day or dunking each other in water [or sprinkling whichever is his preference].

    =======================================

    I agree with Enoch that man was made to be a being in VOICE. For all the words written ever can never give anyone being. Experience is key. Thusly one is in need FIRST of Truth [baptism by water] and then one is in need SECOND of Experience [Baptism by Fire]. And both of these are the work of God in man.

    The 6th day man was commanded to go and take dominion over the EARTH. That is better understood, in my experience, to subdue and discipline the lower mind. Thusly Jesus had disciples. This is the work. For all the disciples were in the "Boat" of Conscience. Peter the un-regenerated mind catches Nothing all night long [darkness] but when the dawning of the Sun comes - Jesus says "fish out of the right side" and when Peter brings in so many GREAT FISHES [1 + 5 + 3 = 9] he then prostrates himself realizing how impossible it is for the lower mind to even fathom the Wisdom of God.

    Peter is every man undertaking to understand God in his own intellect. For it is Judah [Light] which camps at the Right side [East] and it is Ephraim [Intellect] which camps at the Left side in the West.

    =======================================

    george, Michael Joseph is no better than you. We are all in this Holy Experience. Embrace it. For even my so called adversaries are playing the negative part of the play which is for me. Thusly, I thank God - for Pilate holds no office in his own power.

    Shalom,
    MJ
    The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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    • Michael Joseph
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1596

      #17
      Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
      The Word - Scripture is so wonderful - but also remember that the same knowledges have been also related in many many other sources Ref Acts 17:28 and Romans 1:20. This is a time of experience. You must experience. Thusly what is for me is for me and thusly what is for you is for you.

      Consider again Genesis again.

      verse one. and do check me out....

      Gen 1:1 In the beginning Elohim [God] (prepared, formed, fashioned, and) created the Heavens and the earth. (Perfect, complete and to be Inhabited).

      Comment: At once there is also something missing in this better translation. The term Aleph-Tav exists in the Hebrew but is not rendered in the English. Who is the Aleph-Tav? Aleph is the First and Tav the Last. Of course if the question is phrased Who then the answer is Christ. But WHAT is Christ? Well the same Scriptures define Christ as the WISDOM and POWER of God. Now also, look again the Hebrew does not relate Heaven [singular] but Heavens [plural]. This comports exactly with Deuteronomy. And many many other sources in Scripture. Now lets proceed to verse 2.

      But before we proceed lets frame or look at Scripture - especially this chapter as the re-establishment of man. Or the renewing of the Earth. Thusly Gen 1 is about bringing the natural man - a brute beast - into the status of a spiritual man - 6th day man.

      Now on to verse 2.

      Gen 1:2 Chaotic Earth
      *And the earth became waste, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep (Frozen Ice). And the Spirit of God moved (hovering, brooding); [the beginning of the heavens and earth which are now] upon the face of the waters. [Melted Ice]


      Comment: I left in the physical parameters but try to stay on consciousness. Isaiah relates that in a former time "children" were raised up and they rebelled but now we see that the Earth [base consciousness] AND actual physical Earth is now laid waste. The physical deed was approximately 12-13k years back. But don't get bogged down in physical because that generally does not lead to any growth in the actual being. Remember the prayer Jesus taught to pray - Thy Will be done IN Heaven and IN Earth. This is perfect haromony in man. For the Kingdom of God is WITHIN you.

      In other words, it is God's Work IN man to bring man to the status of Christ. Now should we accept that the Earth was FIRST formed void and without form as many have incorrectly assumed? If so then nullify the Scriptures for there is a huge problem.

      Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD The Creator of the heavens; God Himself The Former of the earth and The Maker of it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

      Comment: So which is it? Was the Earth [base consciousness] created to be void or was it to be inhabited by the sons and daughters [thoughts and desires] of God? Which is it? Well the answer lies in the verb hayah which is translated "was" and many have taken that to be the original state of being. But if one considers that Genesis 1 is NOT the beginning of Scripture then the understanding comes. John 1:1 is the beginning.

      Now then DARKNESS was on the face of the deep. Better said IGNORANCE. For in ignorance there lies confusion and a state of NOT KNOWING TRUTH. But when the Sun of Righteousness arises in Light then comes Truth and the REAL Baptism in Truth. And we see Jesus relating "ye shall know THE TRUTH and the truth shall set you free." Thusly one who walks in ignorance walks in sin! And how great is this sin if one is WILLINGLY ignorant.

      In the former state there was innocence. Thusly in a state of innocence there is no conscience. Therefore we see at Gen 1:3:

      Gen 1:3 Recreated Earth
      *And God said, "Let there become light:" and there became light.

      Comment: Here now is the state of experience where man will experience "good and evil" so that knowing can develop and thusly a conscience.

      And now we later find when God has worked in man to bring "a" being into a 6th day Man status that we find the following verse:

      Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."


      Comment: The spiritual Man is not judged of men but of God. But this man has not yet come to the 7th day status of rest [Sabbath]. The natural man, who is as a gentile, tramples upon these truths in darkness - merely keeping a day or dunking each other in water [or sprinkling whichever is his preference].

      =======================================

      I agree with Enoch that man was made to be a being in VOICE. For all the words written ever can never give anyone being. Experience is key. Thusly one is in need FIRST of Truth [baptism by water] and then one is in need SECOND of Experience [Baptism by Fire]. And both of these are the work of God in man.

      The 6th day man was commanded to go and take dominion over the EARTH. That is better understood, in my experience, to subdue and discipline the lower mind. Thusly Jesus had disciples. This is the work. For all the disciples were in the "Boat" of Conscience. Peter the un-regenerated mind catches Nothing all night long [darkness] but when the dawning of the Sun comes - Jesus says "fish out of the right side" and when Peter brings in so many GREAT FISHES [1 + 5 + 3 = 9] he then prostrates himself realizing how impossible it is for the lower mind to even fathom the Wisdom of God.

      Peter is every man undertaking to understand God in his own intellect. For it is Judah [Light] which camps at the Right side [East] and it is Ephraim [Intellect] which camps at the Left side in the West.

      =======================================

      george, Michael Joseph is no better than you. We are all in this Holy Experience. Embrace it. For even my so called adversaries are playing the negative part of the play which is for me. Thusly, I thank God - for Pilate holds no office in his own power.

      Shalom,
      MJ
      If you can comprehend states of being, then you will realize that "the lamb slain BEFORE the foundation of this world" is Christ JESUS and the cross is man. For in the regenerated status man is known as a "Tree of Righteousness" but we also read cursed is a man who is hung on a tree. Look at your body - see the trunk, limbs, etc. And the "blind man" before receiving his Spiritual In-Sight said "I see men AS TREES walking."

      Emotion sweeps many away in falsity - half truths. Thusly in Genesis we see that the lower truth [waters] and separated [ref the gulf in Luke 16] from the waters [The Truth].

      Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

      Comment: Verse 26 in retrospection contemplates the Alter erected in the MIND between Abraham / Abimilech.

      Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

      Comment: I wonder if your intellect is telling you verse 6 is referring to atmosphere and groundwater/surface water. If so, that too is correct but this comprehension does not lead to life.

      Consider the allegory of Jacob and Esau. Who was born first? Was it not Esau? Is not Esau fleshly, ruddy a man of the field? See now the natural man? Who received the blessing? Answer: It was Jacob. Was it not the Second son who was Spiritual Minded - not of the world? What was said of Esau? God said "Jacob I love, Esau, I hated." Why? Those poor little boys and God already hates this poor little Esau. See how Emotion sweeps one away into error? Look within yourself to discover those two little boys!

      Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
      Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
      Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

      See now the two States of Being? They are you.

      Shalom,
      MJ
      The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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      • David Merrill
        Administrator
        • Mar 2011
        • 5949

        #18
        The physical deed was approximately 12-13k years back...

        Interestingly Keith DEVLIN in The Math Gene speculates more like 20K years back, the formation of the hyoid bone enabling man to speak.


        Man gets a Voice, Name and Cognizance.

        That X-Files episode is hilarious because an innocent lizard-man gets bitten by a human and suffers transforming into a human himself, complete with shame of his naked body, worrying about retirement and finding a job so he can get a mortgage etc...



        P.S. I remember where I heard that quote - ACIM;

        That was the first projection of error outward. 2 The world arose to hide it, and became the screen on which it was projected and drawn between you and the truth. 3 For truth extends inward, where the idea of loss is meaningless and only increase is conceivable. 4 Do you really think it strange that a world in which everything is backwards and upside down arose from this projection of error? 5 It was inevitable. 6 For truth brought to this could only remain within in quiet, and take no part in all the mad projection by which this world was made. 7 Call it not sin but madness, for such it was and so it still remains. 8 Invest it not with guilt, for guilt implies it was accomplished in reality. 9 And above all, [be not afraid of it]
        Last edited by David Merrill; 02-21-16, 08:54 PM.
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        • Michael Joseph
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1596

          #19
          Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
          Interestingly Keith DEVLIN in The Math Gene speculates more like 20K years back, the formation of the hyoid bone enabling man to speak.


          Man gets a Voice, Name and Cognizance.

          That X-Files episode is hilarious because an innocent lizard-man gets bitten by a human and suffers transforming into a human himself, complete with shame of his naked body, worrying about retirement and finding a job so he can get a mortgage etc...
          Right, I should have been more careful instead of declaring the date was - it is approx - because we don't know with certainty. Nevertheless there remains a reflection - a poor reflection - but nevertheless a reflection into what we see today. For At once we see God in man working to bring man to Jesus status of "IN LIGHT MENT" but then we see Jesus saying "Don't pray to me" and yet we see people ending their prayers in Jesus' name. Also we see Jesus saying "of myself I can do nothing" and yet we see people holding up an image. And we see Jesus saying ye can do greater than I but who believes this to be true?

          And we see Jesus asking "who touched me" for he perceived power flowing THRU him. We know that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God but we don't like to think of the Kingdom in those terms. But consider the idea of a transmitting utility of Spirit in Jesus. The POWER and WISDOM of God in Jesus. And we are told to have the same Mind as Jesus who thought it not robbery to be equal with God. But who believes that?

          And we see in our every day experience of which we curse in our ignorance - a transmitting utility known as a Legal Name [with Account Number] and we know that that name is Legal to a particular system of Law and there is nothing Legal to that Law system in some other name such as a Christian Name. For that CN is a stranger to that "particular form of Law". And we see that the State in which that "particular form of Law" operates is a State of group Consciousness. And as such, the State is as God to the Legal Name. And all Wisdom and Power which might flow to the user is done by and thru the Transmitting Utility known as a Legal Name.

          Poor little man is so ignorant - but Christ laid down in man - man was not WILLING for this to happen - thusly the fall was not voluntary as many would suppose as a rebellion against God - rather it was planned so that man might evolve into Jesus status. For many will now claim blasphemy - which shows how little they understand or have read Scripture. For the Scriptures declare

          2Co 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

          Thusly it is the Power and Wisdom of God working in man to regenerate man from the natural state of ignorance and debt/death/sin to a Spiritual State of Life. It is the carnal mind warring against God. I have looked in the mirror and I behold my enemy and at the same time I behold my Salvation.

          Thusly the transmutation is done by the Spirit of the Lord working in man. Can these bones life Ezekiel? Response: Thou knoweth.

          Eze 37:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
          Eze 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
          Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

          Comment: Do you hear verse 5? If you do then you will understand the 7th day man.

          Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


          Comment: Man is formed in Experience! But it is God's work in man. No man may boast of his status for it is God working in man. I wonder how many will be swept away into the physical response of thought regarding the intellect of word smithing regarding the term "breathed" and thus totally miss the boat in regard to consciousness?

          For Noah's Ark had three decks [Physical, Mental and Spiritual] but there was a window at the top of the Ark and this is the mechanism whereby man can be present with the Lord this day. To Day if you can hear his Voice.



          Shalom,
          MJ
          Last edited by Michael Joseph; 02-21-16, 09:15 PM.
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          • Michael Joseph
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 1596

            #20
            I just realized that I need to make a distinction in terms. When I make a use of the term Man - I mean the regenerated Spiritual being who becomes Man by the grace of God.

            When I use the term man, I mean the natural state of being that we are all born into whereof we rely upon our intellect for everything. Our intellect and knowledges are all of course subject to our five senses or in biblical terms the "five lords of the Philistines."

            Thusly it is the work of God by Grace to regenerate mankind [everyone] from an unregenerate man into Spiritual Man. And further into Celestial Man. But the latter is for another day. Therefore the office of Man as far as Scripture is concerned is not the same as natural beings running around who are male/female in physical form.

            Therefore consider now with "new eyes" the term "Son of Man". This should at once awaken the Mind - to what is being spoken of in the following:

            Eze 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

            Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

            Comment: The sixth day Man in verse 7 is being transformed into a new Glory - 7th Day Celestial Man. This is all the work of God in the creature - you and I.

            Rom_8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
            Rom_8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

            Comment: Before anyone goes and puts on a pity party for ego/self/shadow consider the GREAT PROMISE in verse 21. But first must come experience! Baptism by Fire. Thusly this experience [aeon/age] is the work of God in man. Be not quick to judge that which is not understood for in judging the projection reflects upon self - this is the "Mirror of the Mind".

            Question: How do you "see" Self? Whatever you see is what will be. Therefore you are getting exactly what you think you deserve!

            Shalom,
            MJ
            The blessing is in the hand of the doer. Faith absent deeds is dead.

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            ONE man or woman can make a difference!

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            • David Merrill
              Administrator
              • Mar 2011
              • 5949

              #21
              I really do admire how advanced your interpretations are Michael Joseph - being entirely on a mental level of allegorical metaphor. It even strikes me that this may strike a balance for the Member here too; to read my historical setting-based evaluations in the physical/literal time/space continuum and then to read through your posts as well.

              This website is really the cat's pajamas. I know I might be biased in saying so, but the people posting here seem to really enjoy themselves, and on occasion people reading chime in. Professor Phi; You may have said something and deleted your comment, so I deleted it off the page entirely. I hope you might re-post it? We have not heard from you here for a bit.
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              • george
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 329

                #22
                yeah David, this forum is really something. whats the topic again? lol

                just after the forum was first established here, when it got hacked and replaced with a pirates of D.C. logo, I knda new then it was special somehow. Ha! (true story, readers)


                Originally posted by Michael Joseph View Post
                Do all things [deeds] in Jesus' name. A name is a WAY OF BEING. Thusly,
                almost forgot this.. I heard Ken W. mention the Che Rio christogram https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho being utilized with ones signature so that the name is marked as sacred and not to be used or printed. not sure where he got that idea from. also mentioned how similiar it was to the skull and bones or pirate flag.

                Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                Imagine for a moment that guilt and fear are the same thing. It may not be so but try it since you seek understanding. You do not have to find real reasons to feel guilty - like taking the life of a bird. That too is not a real reason since birds to not die.

                We are conditioned to fear out of somebody forming a business plan - an agenda. You say it in your post. At least that is what I hear. Since fear and guilt are the same (for the moment) you feel guilty out of social conditioning unless you simply dwell neurotically on the poor bird. Rather than ending the entire universe from a bird's perspective. [Which is simply not a bad thing, unless you live in the Second Separation of the Fourth Verse.]

                The DoJ simply relied on me feeling ashamed, reciting the breach of trust and chaotic delusions. They did not address that administrative collection agents pretending to be judicial officers is defrauding the court and People. They hoped to invoke fear where there is no guilt. See how that works forming the synonym?

                The reason I removed Mr. PRETENDER's name is that it might be distracting, the way I used that the clerk was obliged to publish my Response anyway, whether I ordered it or not. Now that he is indicted though, above, we find he is no longer threatening me about being "disrespectful" - or even comment about me ordering the clerk of court around. Using the Great Seal for the State of Colorado alone is a class 5 felony except that the breach of trust is quite real - I am trustee for the resulting trust; in any capacity. I do not appear; I visit.
                this seems helpful, thanks. and I dont know anything about this "Second Separation of the Fourth Verse." not sure what to make of it, can you expand on it or shall I utilize a search engine?

                I am glad you visit them in this way and am hopeful it changes everything for the best.


                i think if an abnormal amount of DMT is needed for one to be chosen by god then it be best to wait for it instead of going out and trying to find some or making it from scratch. sound interesting but not sure I'd try it unless I had some righteous family beside me.

                I also enjoy MJ's interpretations and it doesnt seem to hurt considering them to find a balance.

                MJ, I listened to the madman recording in full. Ive tuned into that station before but only briefly (DMG) I enjoyed that one and can relate to a lot of what was said but its weird..

                i read the KJV cover to cover at very young age, most didnt make sense to me but a lot made perfect sense. before that though I was already experiencing what this recording was about. mainly the power of imagination.. I may have written about my experiences with this before so I wont go into details unless someone want to read it but anyway..

                I discovered this power can be nearly if not completely instantaneous too! that wasnt talked about on the recording but Ive experienced it as a child only in somewhat extreme circumstance. in my case, when fear and caution is totally abandoned, then it happens! I first noticed this power because its results caused me physical pain! I thought to myself that cant be happening, let me test this image idea, and sure enough, it was happening! so I tested it once more. the way I tested it, for the test to succeed I would have to experience some sort of pain due to the nature of the test. so after a couple of tests to verify what was happening, I was satisfied that it was indeed due to image idea. thats all I could handle for testing because it could have been seriously injured or even killed but that was enough for me.

                I new from then on how to keep bad things from happening in a certain stae of mind, some call it "the zone" this also enabled me to be very successful at some things, way beyond average. but I only new how to use it in certain circumstances that were not normal to begin with.

                I could do it in some normal situations but not instantly but pretty fast sometimes. later in my teens, my friends started to notice this and a few actually asked me if I was magic! I would tell them no, Im just really confident in my imagination.

                Ive used this all along for simple things. I know it works but not how or why and it only works for me when Im alone or only with one or two others. more than that or a crowd and forget it. this lead me to believe and know things that I dont think average people are aware of. like for instance the power in numerous individuals consciousness over and individuals.

                I knew I was weak that way so Ive never been a fan of large groups or crowds. and Im not that special I dont think, I discovered it by what seems like stupid luck.

                Ive never used it to harm anyone or anything except myself sometimes. and it has literally put me in the hospital before but that was good in a way because I learned a little more control over it.

                having written all that, I really feel I should be better at it. oh, I think I have helped a lot of people anonymously this way too. maybe the reason I cant put it to the best use is because having learned it so early in life, i kinda take it for granted and so I havnt really put it to good use. didnt really realize what I "had"? your recording seem to really help me with this part. I got a lot of ideas to work with from it.

                ok anyway, sorry for the long read, hope it was helpful in some way and made sense. and something strange has just happened, like a confirmation. im not sure.. its never happened before I will leave it at that for now.

                Love you all!

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                • David Merrill
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                  • Mar 2011
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                  #23
                  It might be about vibration.




                  My deductions about DMT is that it is not worth the MAO nausea - ayahuaska tea. Melatonin destroys the DMT quickly too, that is my experience anyway. STRASSMAN had to inject it pure and direct for people to have the experiences. In summary, this seemingly material experience is the highest spiritual realm - and I suppose that from how "memory clusters", call them ghosts if you like, channeled beings tend to be looking around for channels. Why step down?

                  I was experimenting around with lucid dreaming in the '90's. A rainbow lady told me I needed a spirit guide so I inquired and quickly met up with a Roman soldier who introduced himself as Tato. "Like Tato-Tot?" He had a sword but it was no more material than the rest of him so he just got offended and disappeared. That was my imagination, I imagine I have no use for these beings... if they ever impose themselves I might inquire why they are trying to get back in the world?

                  The answer is probably that this is the highest spiritual experience. So this "Jesus" - the Voice for A Course in Miracles is an errant soul, in my estimation. But the science is great. Bill was dosing Helen with LSD against her will and knowledge. So the Voice was some kind of natural mental phenomenon that leaked all over her because of her psychotomimetic rape.

                  You are on the right track Walter. I would say trust me but that is the last thing I could say. I believe that if you are looking outward for the answers then you have fallen into the same old trap.


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                  • george
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                    • Aug 2014
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                    #24
                    double post but i think related:

                    "I was told by Enoch that 'the Light pictographs' will seal the bodies that will be resurrected. Therefore I was told that those anointed through divine pictographs would receive their knowledge through pictographs of light..." - 5:148, quoting J.J. Hurtak, Keys of Enoch

                    i think this explains how some have exceptional knowledge and wisdom i was writing about earlier.

                    also, pictographs are what ive tried to describe that ive learned to use and avoid using depending on what is needed.

                    i make them or avoid making them. images in the mind basically.. but i dont seem to be getting direct knowledge this way. i am keen to pay more attention to this now though.


                    thanks

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                    • David Merrill
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                      #25
                      I wonder if that was the same intent to these etchings? This artist may have been doing that same thing.

                      I found this book, one of three in the Special Collections area at the federal repository. This is a locked vault of very valuable books and art. On several occasions I would dawn gloves and photograph entire books. Sometimes I have even persuaded the reference librarian to do the copying for me.
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                      • george
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                        • Aug 2014
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by David Merrill View Post
                        I wonder if that was the same intent to these etchings? This artist may have been doing that same thing.

                        I found this book, one of three in the Special Collections area at the federal repository. This is a locked vault of very valuable books and art. On several occasions I would dawn gloves and photograph entire books. Sometimes I have even persuaded the reference librarian to do the copying for me.
                        thanks for sharing it!

                        Nicola Tesla purportedly said that his inventions came to him sorta like this. pictographs in the mind, except his were animated, said he could design, build, and test machinery all in his mind before ever physically re-creating it!

                        not so related but check this out:




                        ive only worked with what i can imagine or sometimes the opposite, like a zen state to prevent my imagination from hurting me. this is what ive decided to try and develop more now. sometimes its silly things like imagining a computer or electrical fault or failure in a system when that systems data is used by other people and the results of which could cause a harm, loss, or injury to me. (i think you can "see" what Im getting at here)

                        this is also why personal dream recording (and also interpretation for other reasons) is such a beneficial exercise. working with the inner light pictograms/images.

                        in that book youve shared, there is one image that clearly illustrates the dreamer focusing on a bubble of lighted imagination coming to him.

                        maybe this is sorta what is meant by "Enoch was translated" except the other way, instead of translating light into matter, he translated his matter back into light?

                        MJ has written here about the "language of light", and youve mentioned shemjaza was the one who introduced mankind to written words.. i have a feeling that these written words are more of a curse than anything but im not sure. Ive had reading dreams too. ussually, its just like reading a book, black letters on white paper. sometimes I read stuff on buildings or cars or whatever is in the dream that has words on it but theres one I had that was written in HUGE carved stones, probably 100' tall, showing lots of aging with moss and stuff growing on them. it said:

                        Twelve
                        OCTAVES

                        stacked just like that, it was HUGE! had to mean something but Ive never figured it out, only found one mention on the web about 12 Octaves and it didnt lead me anywhere. I will never forget that one though so i suppose I will know what it meant when I do.

                        Im gonna be practicing my imagination more now.

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                        • David Merrill
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                          #27
                          I found a great poem by Helen in The Gifts of God, page 66:


                          THE STAR FORM

                          The world can be to us a shining star,
                          Because it represents a Thought of God.
                          In truth it has no form. But seen in time
                          It lies between His fingers, and is still
                          Within the sure protection of His hand.
                          His face shines down on it, and in response
                          It sparkles up to Him. There is no care
                          In anyone who dwells upon the land
                          His hand has covered, and His Voice assures
                          Of everlasting holiness and peace.
                          His Son abides where He would have him be.
                          And not one beat in Heaven's song is missed
                          Within the quiet shining of the star
                          That is the silent Answer to the quest
                          The world has set, but which does not exist.

                          When it is recognized there is no quest,
                          No hand, no Voice, no Answer, and no thought
                          Apart from God, the star will disappear.
                          For what it now reflects will take its place
                          For just one instant more. And then the dream
                          That is the world is over. Sun and Moon
                          And all the stars are happy thoughts with which
                          The sad illusion of the world is lit
                          And interlaced. The star that is the form
                          It takes until the One Creator is
                          Accepted as the Source of everything,
                          Is not eternal. Yet the Light of God
                          Still shines on it, until there is not time
                          And stars have vanished. Then the stillness comes
                          In which there is no form, no sound, no dream.
                          There was a cross, but it has disappeared.
                          There was a world, but there is only God.
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