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    jesse james
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    A W-3 is generated by the place you work for when you give them a SSN. They presume you wish to be a part of the SSA ponzi. They then treat your pay as "wages" for the purpose of withholding SSA credits toward your supposed "trust fund". They then CC the IRS with the W-3 info now called a W-2. The W-2 is not proof positive of "income". Its merely saying you MAY have received "income" and if it IS "income" and you don't report it the service will ass rape you.

    Now when you try the HENDRICKSON method the service says bullshit. Cause they look at the info returns and then your bank account records and say "you earned income" and if the nature of your income is in the form of corporate currency by blanket endorsing your paychecks...checkmate your screwed.
    I agree with most of what you are sayng Brian except for two issues-

    1. The SSA inputs the info from the W3 transmittal into the system. The only purpose for the W2 is for the filer to prepare his/her return. The W2 is a receipt of "income" just as 26USC 6051 says it is which must be mailed to the employee by a certain date. 3121(a) "wages" and 3401(a) "wages" are both one in the same and are the measuring medium of "income".
    "Service" and 3121(a) "wages" are synomimous when it comes to defining "income". The SS handbook will tell you that.

    2. What Hendrickson is doing by replacing the W2 with a form 4852 is challenging the W3 transmittal info. The problem with this 4852 approach is it doesnt magically change the W3 info the SSA already has inputed which the IRS uses to determine a return or a deficiency. The form 4852, for one, is not meant for the CtC (zero return) purpose. The IRS is nothing more than a simple built in collection agency of the Treasury. The IRS, nor any agency, has any legal standing to determine if you want to participate in SS or not (Bill of Rights are effected by participating). They are just a collection agency trying to do its job, thats all. They dont even have a legal standing to tell you what you are doing wrong. I'm not siding with the IRS here, just being impartial to fully understand facts. And the facts are the IRS relies on the W3 transmittal from the SSA.
    All I'm saying about Pete is he decided to participate in SS thereby generating forms indicating he, in fact, had bonifide statutory reportable "income"...........the W3 "smoking gun".
    The proof is in Petes own trial. The prosecution in Petes case presented, the employer, who tesitified, and the W4, which convicted Hendrickson.
    What would you think the outcome of Pete's trial would have been if the employer testified in the other direction? Do you think the prosecution would have any legal teeth without Petes W4?
    What everybody doesn't realize about Pete's trial is the significants of what the presecution used to convict Pete.........the W4! But Pete distracted himself away from the real issue of the W4 and entered the trial focusing on the frivolous 800lb gorilla "government employee" issue. Stupid but it is what it is!

    This is not hard. If you endorse corporate currency/credit generated by exclusive privilege granted by CONgress to the FRS you fall into the private law of Title12 and 26 and must obey. Benefiting from that "privilege" (what benefit eludes me) is most certainly a taxable activity.

    The Demand for redeemed lawful money however changes the nature of that income beyond their jurisdiction.
    I disagree......fiat currency is used for both "private and public" debt, says so on every piece of paper.
    The question here is they were endorsing checks into fiat way before 1939 and a majority of Americans had no obligation to file 1040's. History says the facts are that in 1940 tens of millions of Americans filed tax returns for the first time in their lives, the IRS website will tell you this.
    When was the Reserve Act enacted and put into place Brian?
    The Reserve Act was enacted on Dec. 13, 1913. Thats 26 years before the Social Security Act of 1939. Theres no coincidence to fiat currency like there is to chapter 21 of Subtitle C- Employment taxes of Title 26. One year after the 1939 internal revenue revision tens of millions of Americans were filing 1040's for the first time in 1940. This is because the 1939 code was the first revision to include chapter 21 (Social Security) in Subtitle C- Employment Taxes where you find governent employees. Does this make you a government employee? No it doesnt, but thats not what Pete wants you to believe.
    It takes one year of earning "wages" to tally up for filing purposes. So do you beleive theres no coincidence to chapter 21 in the 1939 revenue code to the tens of millions of first tiem filers of 1040's in 1940? It doesnt take a retard to have a little reasoning and do the math here!
    As for the jurisdiction. You fall within Congress's jurisdiction when you sign any government document stating you wish to be treated as a "US citizen".
    "US citizens" are distinquished from the People by "privileges" from Rights.
    If you, Brian, want to know which Buill of Rights are considered "fundamental" between the People and "US citizens" let me know I can post a link to the official Senate document stating which ones.
    "US citizens" dont have much protections eminating from the Bill of Rights......what they do have are "Civil Rights" or government granted "privileges" that eminate from the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and you dont have to be colored to apply for them.
    Last edited by jesse james; 11-11-11 at 02:17 PM.

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