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    Quote Originally Posted by jesse james View Post
    Wow Motla68!
    I'm simply amazed you cannot connect the dots. You sincerely need to be impartial to allow to see all the facts...........you really have to be honest with yourself. It was the hardest thing I did after being banned from losthorizons, but I wanted to know the truth!
    I didnt like it but it was the truth.
    Social Security is a retirement program of the Government of the United States. Social Security was enacted by Roosevelt. He acting as president of the US set up a panel that later became the SSA. Still today the SSA is a federal agency and therefor administering a government retirement.
    If you ever look at a SS5 form (ssn application form) it is signed under penalty of perjury of being a "US citizen".
    The courts know what "US citizens" are:

    “...he was not a citizen of the United States, he was a citizen and voter of the State,...” “One may be a citizen of a State an yet not a citizen of the United States”.
    McDonel v. The State, 90 Ind. 320 (1883)

    “That there is a citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state,...”
    Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236 (1927)

    "A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..."
    Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383



    In title 5, the same section you got this "federal personel" from, they define who a "individual" is:
    § 552a. Records maintained on individuals
    (2) the term “individual” means a citizen of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence;

    "Federal personel" of 5USC 552(A) and a 14th amemdment "US citizen" are both one in the same Motla68! You dont have to be of colored race to apply for a ssn.
    You've read my post and know I bring up 26usc 3101 and 3402 alot. Well did you happen to notice 3101?

    § 3101. Rate of tax
    (a) Old-age, survivors, and disability insurance
    In addition to other taxes, there is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax equal to the following percentages of the wages (as defined in section 3121 (a)) received by him with respect to employment (as defined in section 3121 (b))—

    See anything, motla68, simular in title 5 "federal personel"?

    5 USC 552A(a)
    (13) the term “Federal personnel” means officers and employees of the Government of the United States, members of the uniformed services (including members of the Reserve Components), individuals entitled to receive immediate or deferred retirement benefits under any retirement program of the Government of the United States (including survivor benefits).

    Your duty as a "US citizen" is to be regulated and pay any taxes to receive the associated "privileges".
    Also, when you see someone do a FOIA to get their records like you see alot of people in the patriot movement do they dont realize the records they wish to get come from Title 5............ § 552a. Records maintained on individuals
    You are only in the government record system because the SSA inputs the information.
    Thank you for bringing title 5 to this thread.
    Title 5 is where "employment" as defined for the Social Security Act originates from................if you didnt know.

    Now if theres any doubt click this link which is from the SSA website linking to Title 5 itself. You even see 5USC 552A http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/comp2/D-USC-05.html
    The word "person" in legal terminology normally includes in its scope a variety of entities other than man. See e.g. 1 U.S.C. sec 1. ; Church of Scientology v. U.S. Dept. of Justice (1979) 612 F.2d 417, 425.

    U.S. Code:
    TITLE 1 > CHAPTER 1 > § 1
    § 1. Words denoting number, gender, and so forth
    " the words “person” and “whoever” include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals"

    True name never signed a SS5. True name never signed a oath of loyalty to be a citizen, Next?
    Last edited by motla68; 11-12-11 at 07:03 PM.

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