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    Quote Originally Posted by shikamaru View Post
    Perhaps one of the purposes for estate and gift tax is for government to try to allay net asset disparities between different groups?
    If this becomes too extreme, the society will collapse. A broken engine makes no money and has no benefits.

    One of the reasons for Rome's collapse is that people just left the polity.
    Sumeria and Babylon nearly collapsed several times due to people just up and abandoning their lands and debts.
    I think the purpose for taxation simply is domination, not dominion. Here (in trust kaw) we have an example of a mental model being created and thrust upon people without their knowledge, therefore without their consent. I'm speaking about trusts in general, not merely deeds of trust.

    I became very excited when, upon reading the roles of various persons in a trust, I realized that one man can hold more than one office in a trust. That is something I knew beforehand, but it suddenly became crystal clear. I don't want to interrupt the flow of this thread, but I have to mention that we hold FRN's in trust. Redeeming them in lawful money changes the trust. I'm sorry for revisiting what is probably old news for you, but I'm having a moment of clarity.

    Now then, if society collapses because certain groups of people holding positions of power within it are engaging in dishonest and self-aggrandizing behavior, so be it. Perhaps societal collapse could be avoided, but that would require more people to understand their role in the overall societal trust. How many take the time to do that? And how could they know they're understanding correctly?

    The trust model is useful for those in power. In fact, it appears to be the engine of domination in society to me. When I discovered that all property vests in the state, supposedly for my benefit, I have to say I was a bit perturbed by that. The sovereign gathers taxes at all checkpoints in the trust, and for what? To assert dominion over people, not merely things. That is radically evil in my estimation.
    Last edited by Keith Alan; 01-13-13 at 02:30 PM.

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