Birth Certificate - What it is

[salsero]

David - it is not important we agree - but to be open to a different POV.

It is my opinion that "IN GOD WE TRUST" on what is referred to on the money - is not the same God you think it is. To me - this means IN THE STATE WE TRUST. Now you ask why? OK On a spiritual side - The Creator has provided everything FREELY GIVEN to every living Being for his use, possession, control and dominion over. The living soul DOES NOT OWN IT. We, as men are being tricked to believe that "FRNS" are our savior, a false god, in violation of the 10 commandments. Do you put your trust in the Real God or the false god? It is a test.

By definition per the SOT website

Federal Reserve notes are not redeemable in gold, silver or any other commodity, and receive no backing by anything This has been the case since 1933. The notes have no value for themselves, but for what they will buy. In another sense, because they are legal tender, Federal Reserve notes are "backed" by all the goods and services in the economy.

So logically - TO ME - this trust you refer to is backed by nothing other than real men who perform some function in society. Those public servants swear an oath to the State not to God. This is why a Lois Lerner can get a way with what she is about to get away with - she has an oath to the State and the State must protect her. She must protect the public trust - the public trust is a fiction. The value is man not the trust. The trust is written on a piece of paper. Man uses real things. paper is a dead tree representing the real. The pope is the Head trustee and the Vicar of Christ here on earth.

And here we agree - The public employee basically makes an agree with the devil or state to uphold all the bankrupt public policy statutes of the US. The public servant MUST serve the public and only the public. You, the man are private - however, you have an indemnity receipt for indemnification for the public property you use called a name. Man indirectly receives a benefit where everything man does here on earth is to PUBLICALLY glorify Caesar - however, in private he honors his Creator AND all is well. The public servant under the rules of bankruptcy in the public policy statutes have a manner in which to DISCHARGE all obligations under the current system. FIRST man must rebut any presumption of THEIR status AND be willing to give Caesar all the glory [meaning no warring as an enemy of the State] AND then ACT as a man by not intermeddling by making false claims to public property.

Again, David or anyone - DO WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU. Play in their sandbox. From my understanding, our friend, Dean Clifford, who is a man wanted to "war and play" - there is a cost. THEY can change the rules anytime they want in order to protect that fictional public trust. A comment about the AFV - sometimes they work, sometimes they do not. WHY is this? Carefully think why. Are you authorized to discharge public obligation?

All we have to do is accept and acknowledge what has ALREADY been done. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's

“And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor”. – Declaration of Independence

And so David is comfortable with not insulting me - I offer this about MY opinions: WTF do I know?

I am uncertain if you are posing questions or not.

The IN GOD WE TRUST Trust on money assures value in a trust. The officials under a tenet of monotheism swear in and validate the office before that same God. Therefore the Oath of Office may be accepted for value as notice that violations of the bills of rights will be met by a bill of indictment.

Traditionally also is that upon proof of this violation of statute (constitutions) the official is without judicial or sovereign immunity and becomes personally liable.

Above in my post I must admit I came against Boris/A4V acutely simply because I have wanted to see some good examples of successful A4V, and have only collected a few myself. In all fairness I should disclose a certain perspective that cuts through the dross of fashioning a formidable Bill of Indictment through a grand jury, in a system that will tend to protect its own officials.

Instead of a Bill of Indictment my heritage as a Patroon allows me simple billing process through access to the Municipal CODE as old as the Levite Priesthood itself, called waiver of tort[/URL].





This is why I say it seems condescending. I refer to a specific bloodline when this is simply how I was able to see the redemption heritage through my own example and demonstration. I am not special.

My point specifically is that there may be other instances where Treasury monies are available through Acceptance for Value. It just becomes frustrating over the years waiting for somebody to come up with good examples that are easy to verify as reproducible.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[walter]

Salmon P. Chase, Treasury Secretary, scribes "In God is our Trust," scratches out "is our" and overwrites "We" to arrive at "In God We Trust" in a 1863-12-09 letter to James Pollock, Director of the Philadelphia Mint.

Who is We?

[Keith Alan]

Salmon P. Chase, Treasury Secretary, scribes "In God is our Trust," scratches out "is our" and overwrites "We" to arrive at "In God We Trust" in a 1863-12-09 letter to James Pollock, Director of the Philadelphia Mint.

Who is We?

Users of the money?

[Michael Joseph]

All we have to do is accept and acknowledge what has ALREADY been done. Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's

“And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor”. – Declaration of Independence

salsero,

Before there was District of Columbia it was called Rome. I find Rome dba USA. Therefore I see not a church in Rome but a State. I saw recently "since capitalism and communism don't work, lets try catholicism again". The Settlors of State declare the constitution which settles the money of State. On an ancient claim, builders see I working for Pontifex Maximus. A title held by one and no other.

What I see is a war. And this war is foretold in the Scripture. Rome waring against the Word of God. I saw in Henry VIII a king who took back his kingdom from Rome in the Statute of Uses he established both at law and in equity all interests in the throne.

Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The times come and are now when Onesimus [Remnant] will have to stand for Truth - for there is in deed a flood [of lies] being cast forth onto the Earth out of the mouth [spokesmen] of the Dragon.

Philemon is blind - he denies the Christ. Pretends to be the mouthpiece of Jesus Christ. Oh there indeed is a king in the earth skilled at dissimulation.

All of those who pledged save MAYBE a few belonged to societies which serve Rome - secretly. I wonder when men begin to just wholesale surrender everything to another - what might happen when they are betrayed? or perhaps SOLD?

Did you notice that some men bound together in their society, pledged to themselves, declared themselves and in doing so got first hand access to the Land? I find it repugnant to bow my knee to any man. So why should I surrender ANYTHING to a man? Let the dead bury the dead.

I am a student of history - true history - and I know that men were actually tortured and killed for just READING the New Testament. Rome she wants to dole out to you your very thoughts! It is a slippery slope when one looks to be represented by another. One had best know for a surety to whom one is placing trust.

Enticements abound - everything is free - I don't think so. For then Atlas would in deed Shrug and then who would be available to serve me? I jest of course. I find a man who will not work should not eat. I find fascism - which is a nasty word - nevertheless is the style of government today within the United States. A little red worm has eaten the gourd which once gave shade.

John the Baptist ate locusts and honey so he could learn to love the good and hate the evil. I wonder why John was not in town drinking it up with all the other clowns bowing to their god- Ceasar. I heard a preacher once say "God does not give wealth to those who cannot handle it". I find that to be true. For absent God there is no Ceasar. Therefore what is Ceasar's except that he makes a Use of that which is God's property.

Again I see the Potter and the pot. Even in a Theocracy God meted out boundaries to the tribes so that their inheritance would be sure - nevertheless there was provision in the law concerning selling their inheritance. I am reminded of the son who went into a far country. I see Abraham buying a cave from the sons of Heth [burying place for Israel]

I wonder pray tell, which one of you here has EVER taken a pledge to the United States? Or for that matter even the State? I seriously doubt anyone here has done that - and yet - I hear talk issued by some that we somehow are part of that pledge - as hereinbefore referenced? Hogwash. No mutual pledge, no declaration, no standing!

What is funny to me is that the Scriptures even declare the same thing! They say at John 3:16 whomsoever places their trust in Jesus Christ...also we see the cup of communion - which is a pledge to marry!

So dear readers, tell me when did the United States take you to bride? Do you even have an engagement? Or have you been adopted? The husbandman takes a bride in contract. The father adopts a son per the father's prerogative.

Lacking evidence of a claim - under the Laws of Nations - one is Stateless [resident]. Will a Queen be courted by a peasant? I think not.





Shalom,
Michael Joseph

[Michael Joseph]

What then of a Bankruptcy? The trustees [Officers of State] would hold the Estates in Receivership. One making a Use is subject to the Terms of Use.

Shalom,
MJ

[salsero]

It looks like we agree on most ---
I agree - it is a war for Man's soul on who he will serve - the Real God or the false god? The false god is permitted to deceive, coerce, and trick everyone into believing "in god we trust" is the real god, but it is the false god. This is where man errs and there is a dear price on his soul for this error.

I agree - those men pledged themselves - their fortunes, and their honor. We are NOT a part of that pledge EXCEPT to release and surrender [by acknowledgment and acceptance of what has ready been pledged - dead paper appearing as something with value] back to them what is their property.

I am not sure what you mean by "lacking evidence of a claim - under the LON - one is stateless [resident]...

Personally I am not looking to be a resident, citizen, person, whoever of any nation - as I recall man is [a nation] unto himself - really the word "man" alone says it all. Stateless is their classification for their internal BS. I think we agree on the word "claim" - but again like Karl, once the word is defined better than by "normal regular talk", it seems I agree more.

To me making a claim COULD be making a complaint IF one is not careful and that is my only concern.

What I see is a war. And this war is foretold in the Scripture. Rome waring against the Word of God. I saw in Henry VIII a king who took back his kingdom from Rome in the Statute of Uses he established both at law and in equity all interests in the throne.

Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The times come and are now when Onesimus [Remnant] will have to stand for Truth - for there is in deed a flood [of lies] being cast forth onto the Earth out of the mouth [spokesmen] of the Dragon.

Philemon is blind - he denies the Christ. Pretends to be the mouthpiece of Jesus Christ. Oh there indeed is a king in the earth skilled at dissimulation.

All of those who pledged save MAYBE a few belonged to societies which serve Rome - secretly. I wonder when men begin to just wholesale surrender everything to another - what might happen when they are betrayed? or perhaps SOLD?

Did you notice that some men bound together in their society, pledged to themselves, declared themselves and in doing so got first hand access to the Land? I find it repugnant to bow my knee to any man. So why should I surrender ANYTHING to a man? Let the dead bury the dead.

I am a student of history - true history - and I know that men were actually tortured and killed for just READING the New Testament. Rome she wants to dole out to you your very thoughts! It is a slippery slope when one looks to be represented by another. One had best know for a surety to whom one is placing trust.

Enticements abound - everything is free - I don't think so. For then Atlas would in deed Shrug and then who would be available to serve me? I jest of course. I find a man who will not work should not eat. I find fascism - which is a nasty word - nevertheless is the style of government today within the United States. A little red worm has eaten the gourd which once gave shade.

John the Baptist ate locusts and honey so he could learn to love the good and hate the evil. I wonder why John was not in town drinking it up with all the other clowns bowing to their god- Ceasar. I heard a preacher once say "God does not give wealth to those who cannot handle it". I find that to be true. For absent God there is no Ceasar. Therefore what is Ceasar's except that he makes a Use of that which is God's property.

Again I see the Potter and the pot. Even in a Theocracy God meted out boundaries to the tribes so that their inheritance would be sure - nevertheless there was provision in the law concerning selling their inheritance. I am reminded of the son who went into a far country. I see Abraham buying a cave from the sons of Heth [burying place for Israel]

I wonder pray tell, which one of you here has EVER taken a pledge to the United States? Or for that matter even the State? I seriously doubt anyone here has done that - and yet - I hear talk issued by some that we somehow are part of that pledge - as hereinbefore referenced? Hogwash. No mutual pledge, no declaration, no standing!

What is funny to me is that the Scriptures even declare the same thing! They say at John 3:16 whomsoever places their trust in Jesus Christ...also we see the cup of communion - which is a pledge to marry!

So dear readers, tell me when did the United States take you to bride? Do you even have an engagement? Or have you been adopted? The husbandman takes a bride in contract. The father adopts a son per the father's prerogative.

Lacking evidence of a claim - under the Laws of Nations - one is Stateless [resident]. Will a Queen be courted by a peasant? I think not.





Shalom,
Michael Joseph

[Michael Joseph]

Lacking evidence of a claim - under the Laws of Nations - one is Stateless [resident]. Will a Queen be courted by a peasant? I think not.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

Today I was given a fresh perspective from a young boy of 22 years - amazing his insight - and I was immediately keen to listen to his wisdom. He made a statement that the 501c3 membership REGISTRATION rolls, indicate an express trust. How true. He asked "have you ever wondered why the so called apostate churches are always collecting for the building fund". I answered yes, to keep the business in debt.

His response was that who is the surety for that debt? I responded the membership! Indeed.

He then asked who gave standing to those houses? I said the Pope thru his agencies. Then he asked isn't the United States just a Ministerial Trust? I responded yes it is. So who is liable for its operation? Its membership! Meaning the citizenry and those who would enjoin themselves to her as a Stranger. [Thank you David Merrill for that one].

Thanks to Tupper Saussy, I see that the Papacy has established that those in sin [as they define it - Heresy] cannot obtain property. Consider a claim unchallenged. No man has authority to appoint himself to office. Therefore a claim must be made - if it is met with silence - then the claim stands and those who remain silent agree. Martin Luther disagreed. And that struggle still is ongoing Catholicism vs. Protestantism. A recent agent for Pope is making a plea for peace - it is of course in this writers opinion False. Nevertheless those who pledged to support the Pope have their standing UNDER the Pope [Black].

For one living soul to have dominion over another requires a Trust Deed. But who has authority to do that deed? AUTHORITY is the Key. A trustee cannot appoint himself to office. Therefore a Claim is prerequisite. The benefits of said claim are Granted to Trustees to hold on behalf of the Claimant's beneficiary.

Consider the key is Authority - the key is in Debar. Dalet, Bet, Resh. The spoken word. Who spoke the Word? Look at Yehoshuah [Jesus] he never claimed authority he always cited his Father's Will. Where is the authority, renown, name of God found? Torah! How then can an apostate church have any claim especially if they deny that the King of the Universe and without the Universe has no Law? Said membership is in Sin and cannot inherit.

A king in Israel [Melchizedok] must have a written copy of Torah - this is his Authority to rule! Now consider dear Readers - the King James Bible. Is it not copyrighted? MeLoCH. Mem-Lamed-Qof. The office of the King is to work with his hand [Qof] by the Staff of Instruction [Lamed - Torah] to guide the people [Mem - Ref 17:15]. Therefore the name, authority, renown of the king is his Authority = Torah. Therefore I may be a stranger in regard to the United States or State of North Carolina but I am of the Order of Melchizedok walking in the Light - Gen 1:3. I have the precious name of God - I have the doubled edged sword in my hand.

Will you trespass God? My claim is in God. My Refuge, My Hightower, My Provider, My Sustainer, My Savior, My King, I am vassal UNDER Yehoshuah in El Elyon. Let the Rulers of Evil govern Evil. What have I to do with evil? The Sons of Cain have their jobs to do [they are marked]. Let them rule over evil men. Those who are in sin cannot inherit. They are perpetually without at the mercy of another man's claim.

I see this as bowing to the man of sin. For I clearly see the Apostate Church at war with the Remnant.

I have a son and he has a name. I might seek to disrespect him by calling him "boy" or some other such title. But if I want to recognize our close relationship I will call him by his name. And vice versa he will not refer to me as his Father, if he desires to express a special relationship he will say he is Andrew son of Michael. That nails it down. I have respect on to my son, my brother and my daughter, my sister and my wife, my sister. You understand? The first is flesh the latter spiritual. Notice how Lucifer's name was taken from him? He disrespected El Elyon and as such Lucifer was stripped of Title and given the role of Adversary.

How many know the name of God? I speak not exactly to His phonetic name but His Authority, His Renown, His Great and Awesome Way. His Authority or Name is found in Torah = The Way.

Yehoshuah saying "I AM the Way". But we see John saying "I wish to see you face to face". So we see a "spoken word" and a "written word". The written word only certifies a preexisting establishment.



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[Michael Joseph]

Continued....

I am a Stranger to the United States. And since I refuse to trespass the Trustees, I cannot be made to pay as a Constructive Trustee. Nevertheless, my Authority does not come from myself - I come to do thy will Father.

Yehoshuah said He came to do the Will of His Father - the One who SENT Him. Therefore Yehoshuah is the Chief Apostle. I cannot be in the Order of Melchizedok if I choose to remain absent Torah. The Apostate church will waive the carrot of Salvation - but Dear Reader - I am talking about two mutually exclusive ideas. Salvation is without me and Authority is without me. I am with Choice.

1Ki_18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

I am called to be a king-priest. Therefore my Authority is not in my name [renown, report] my Authority is in Torah. For the double edged sword [The Word] is in my hand. Therefore I have a State. And I am not Stateless. My Claim is in God. And it is there where I take my Shadow.

Psa 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the MOST HIGH Shall abide under the shadow of THE ALMIGHTY.
Psa 91:2 I will say of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress: My God; in Him will I trust.

Shalom,
Michael Joseph

[shikamaru]

Today I was given a fresh perspective from a young boy of 22 years - amazing his insight - and I was immediately keen to listen to his wisdom. He made a statement that the 501c3 membership REGISTRATION rolls, indicate an express trust. How true. He asked "have you ever wondered why the so called apostate churches are always collecting for the building fund". I answered yes, to keep the business in debt.

His response was that who is the surety for that debt? I responded the membership! Indeed.

He then asked who gave standing to those houses? I said the Pope thru his agencies. Then he asked isn't the United States just a Ministerial Trust? I responded yes it is. So who is liable for its operation? Its membership! Meaning the citizenry and those who would enjoin themselves to her as a Stranger. [Thank you David Merrill for that one].

Check out charitable trusts from the perspective of English Law sometime.