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    "How can I steal from myself?" A question I've seen wielded to successfully end silly accusations. I was taught that the significance of the "I" was actually esoterically known and regarded in the ancient Greek polity. That might be related to that fact that because of Alexander the Great, Egyptian Mystery Schools were opened up to what is now known as "the West".
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    Quote Originally Posted by allodial View Post
    "How can I steal from myself?" A question I've seen wielded to successfully end silly accusations. I was taught that the significance of the "I" was actually esoterically known and regarded in the ancient Greek polity. Because of Alexander, Egyptian Mystery Schools were opened up to what is now known as "the West".
    It is a paradox, yes. For what my actions do to you, in fact my actions reflect upon myself. Thusly we see planes of consciousness. Those in the valley, earth, dessert know nothing of those on the Mountain. However, my carnality seeks to extinguish "I". Thus the "men of Sodom" - base thoughts - always seek to capture and subdue those heavenly thoughts. And as within so without we see base men [and women] seeking to control and dominate.

    The paradoxical Isaac [Ego] was the child of promise birthed in man. Abraham said to God "where you want this killing done" - for once the tables turned and the robbers were subdued - then an upgrade in RAM was granted. A new MIND.

    What is your name said the black robed priest - Michael Joseph am I in Christ. Absent friction of motion there was no knowledge of I. Consider the wisdom of that statement in thought. Anyone who has ever experienced an isolation chamber knows there is no way to know whether one is alive or dead. Time stands still.

    Thusly, Me thanks the adversary for the opportunity to grow. For We two are in reality one. It is only carnality or the LOT in man which veils and blinds a weary eye from truth. Thusly for Abraham to grow he had to send away Lot.

    Gen 13:8 And Abram said unto Lot, Let there be no strife, I pray thee, between me and thee, and between my herdmen and thy herdmen; for we be brethren.

    Gen 13:9 Is not the whole land before thee? separate thyself, I pray thee, from me: if thou wilt take the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if thou depart to the right hand, then I will go to the left.

    Jon 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

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    Thusly Have no other Gods before Me. Christ formed in Me is "I".

    Before climbing the Mountain Abraham told his servants and his asses [stubborn nature] to stay at the base of the Mountain. Carnality cannot climb the Mountain.

    "I" is not an American.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    Thus the "men of Sodom" - base thoughts - always seek to capture and subdue those heavenly thoughts. And as within so without we see base men [and women] seeking to control and dominate.
    They were men with base/carnal thoughts rather than merely base thoughts --although you could suggest that man might embody what he thinks in his heart. Its rather evident even in Indian history that Abraham and Sarah were really a king and queen consort --not imaginary figures.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Joseph View Post
    ... always seek to capture and subdue those heavenly thoughts. And as within so without we see base men [and women] seeking to control and dominate.
    Their sails were set low (carnal) and so they neither captured nor caught the 'higher winds'. They did not capture the heavily thoughts because the carnal mind isn't "up there"--so the dd not 'subdue' any such thing anymore than someone ignoring the truth subdues it by turning their back as it drifts past and then beyond their concern. Relevantly, the phallus is below the head and the heart. If one is merely born or issued from the phallus then one could be regarded to be "from below" rather than "from above".

    And Elijah said to Ahab, "Go up, eat and drink, for there is a sound of the rushing of rain." So Ahab went up to eat and to drink. And Elijah went up to the top of Mount Carmel. And he bowed himself down on the earth and put his face between his knees. And he said to his servant, "Go up now, look toward the sea.” And he went up and looked and said, "There is nothing." And he said, "Go again," seven times.
    When Elijah (at 1 Kings 18:42) was on Mount Carmel praying, he was physically there. If he were merely allegorical why would it be be important that he stooped with his face between his knees? The position he took was one of a woman giving birth because he comprehended something that I also comprehend and allude to above.
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    "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
    "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Proverbs 25:2
    Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Thess. 5:21.

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