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    "4.) Watch for Fraudulent Documents
    Sovereign Citizens can be an investigative challenge. Much of their personal identification information, such as birth certificates, driver’s licenses, or vehicle tags are fraudulent documents. When asked to provide a name, they may respond that they don’t have a name.

    They may identify themselves as “the representative of…(their legal name).”

    If you do receive a name, it may be a “sovereign” name, compounded with “El” or “Bey” and intended to denounce their association with the name provided them by a government entity.

    Be sure to document all known aliases."



    This line says it all:

    "the name provided them by a government entity."


    Merriam-Webster
    Definition of PROVIDED
    : on condition that : with the understanding : if

    Definition of IF
    1
    a : in the event that
    b : allowing that
    c : on the assumption that
    d : on condition that

    So there are assumptions and conditions associated with using the provided government issued NAME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walter View Post
    http://www.policeone.com/investigati...eign-Citizens/

    "4.) Watch for Fraudulent Documents
    Sovereign Citizens can be an investigative challenge. Much of their personal identification information, such as birth certificates, driver’s licenses, or vehicle tags are fraudulent documents. When asked to provide a name, they may respond that they don’t have a name.

    They may identify themselves as “the representative of…(their legal name).”

    If you do receive a name, it may be a “sovereign” name, compounded with “El” or “Bey” and intended to denounce their association with the name provided them by a government entity.

    Be sure to document all known aliases."



    This line says it all:

    "the name provided them by a government entity."


    Merriam-Webster
    Definition of PROVIDED
    : on condition that : with the understanding : if

    Definition of IF
    1
    a : in the event that
    b : allowing that
    c : on the assumption that
    d : on condition that

    So there are assumptions and conditions associated with using the provided government issued NAME.
    The thing is, I don't think government can force you to use any given identification or name.

    They merely rely on declaration of one form or another.
    They certainly look for your confirmation of a specific legal record to begin assessment of charges.

    I still contend that a name is an account (Common Law: chose in action).

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